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7/19/2012 10:20:24 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
OK, so it's 1am and I need to write this while my first experience is fresh in my mind. No spoilers, so don't worry. There might be a spoiler thread in the future when a few people have seen it.

Anyway, this movie was almost perfect and the faults were really minor and personal annoyances which really can't be discussed here... It's brilliantly written to keep you guessing about what's going to happen. Every single actor plays their character to a tee; new characters Bane, Selina Kyle (who is not called Catwoman through the entire film) and John Blake are all excellent and the supporting cast are great. Veterans Lucius Fox, Alfred and Bruce Wayne are all exactly as good (if not better) than they were in previous movies.
The plot is the perfect conclusion to the series. It borrows heavily from The Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall but doesn't follow either of those storylines instead simply continuing Nolan's vision of a realistic Batman... although the 'Bat' was pretty far out (can someone confirm whether this is possible technology?).
The pacing is perfect and the movie, which goes for nearly three hours, flies by.
Cinematography is beautiful and the costuming is great.

I'm giving this movie a 9.5/10. I would suggest that people pay careful attention when Bane talks; perhaps it was the outrageously loud iMax speakers but I found him difficult to understand at times and I think I missed about 5% of his dialogue. I will be watching it again at a regular cinema soon.

TL;DR version: If you liked the previous movies there is absolutely no reason for you to not see this immediately.
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7/19/2012 6:33:32 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I'm looking forward to Bain's anarchist overtones, too.
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7/19/2012 6:35:36 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/19/2012 10:20:24 AM, tvellalott wrote:
OK, so it's 1am and I need to write this while my first experience is fresh in my mind. No spoilers, so don't worry. There might be a spoiler thread in the future when a few people have seen it.

Anyway, this movie was almost perfect and the faults were really minor and personal annoyances which really can't be discussed here... It's brilliantly written to keep you guessing about what's going to happen. Every single actor plays their character to a tee; new characters Bane, Selina Kyle (who is not called Catwoman through the entire film) and John Blake are all excellent and the supporting cast are great. Veterans Lucius Fox, Alfred and Bruce Wayne are all exactly as good (if not better) than they were in previous movies.
The plot is the perfect conclusion to the series. It borrows heavily from The Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall but doesn't follow either of those storylines instead simply continuing Nolan's vision of a realistic Batman... although the 'Bat' was pretty far out (can someone confirm whether this is possible technology?).
The pacing is perfect and the movie, which goes for nearly three hours, flies by.
Cinematography is beautiful and the costuming is great.

I'm giving this movie a 9.5/10. I would suggest that people pay careful attention when Bane talks; perhaps it was the outrageously loud iMax speakers but I found him difficult to understand at times and I think I missed about 5% of his dialogue. I will be watching it again at a regular cinema soon.

TL;DR version: If you liked the previous movies there is absolutely no reason for you to not see this immediately.

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7/19/2012 9:19:42 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/19/2012 10:20:24 AM, tvellalott wrote:
OK, so it's 1am and I need to write this while my first experience is fresh in my mind. No spoilers, so don't worry. There might be a spoiler thread in the future when a few people have seen it.

Anyway, this movie was almost perfect and the faults were really minor and personal annoyances which really can't be discussed here... It's brilliantly written to keep you guessing about what's going to happen. Every single actor plays their character to a tee; new characters Bane, Selina Kyle (who is not called Catwoman through the entire film) and John Blake are all excellent and the supporting cast are great. Veterans Lucius Fox, Alfred and Bruce Wayne are all exactly as good (if not better) than they were in previous movies.
The plot is the perfect conclusion to the series. It borrows heavily from The Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall but doesn't follow either of those storylines instead simply continuing Nolan's vision of a realistic Batman... although the 'Bat' was pretty far out (can someone confirm whether this is possible technology?).
The pacing is perfect and the movie, which goes for nearly three hours, flies by.
Cinematography is beautiful and the costuming is great.

I'm giving this movie a 9.5/10. I would suggest that people pay careful attention when Bane talks; perhaps it was the outrageously loud iMax speakers but I found him difficult to understand at times and I think I missed about 5% of his dialogue. I will be watching it again at a regular cinema soon.

TL;DR version: If you liked the previous movies there is absolutely no reason for you to not see this immediately.

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7/19/2012 9:43:52 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/19/2012 9:19:42 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 7/19/2012 10:20:24 AM, tvellalott wrote:
OK, so it's 1am and I need to write this while my first experience is fresh in my mind. No spoilers, so don't worry. There might be a spoiler thread in the future when a few people have seen it.

Anyway, this movie was almost perfect and the faults were really minor and personal annoyances which really can't be discussed here... It's brilliantly written to keep you guessing about what's going to happen. Every single actor plays their character to a tee; new characters Bane, Selina Kyle (who is not called Catwoman through the entire film) and John Blake are all excellent and the supporting cast are great. Veterans Lucius Fox, Alfred and Bruce Wayne are all exactly as good (if not better) than they were in previous movies.
The plot is the perfect conclusion to the series. It borrows heavily from The Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall but doesn't follow either of those storylines instead simply continuing Nolan's vision of a realistic Batman... although the 'Bat' was pretty far out (can someone confirm whether this is possible technology?).
The pacing is perfect and the movie, which goes for nearly three hours, flies by.
Cinematography is beautiful and the costuming is great.

I'm giving this movie a 9.5/10. I would suggest that people pay careful attention when Bane talks; perhaps it was the outrageously loud iMax speakers but I found him difficult to understand at times and I think I missed about 5% of his dialogue. I will be watching it again at a regular cinema soon.

TL;DR version: If you liked the previous movies there is absolutely no reason for you to not see this immediately.

Sometimes* I really hate you Australians.


*By "sometimes" I mean all the time.

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7/19/2012 9:50:37 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/19/2012 12:50:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 7/19/2012 12:43:52 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
And this from that review.

"Best of all, there will be absolutely none of the confusing moral ambiguity that dragged down The Dark Knight," Nolan said. "People don't want all that pompous 'Who's the real monster, Batman or the criminals he pursues?' junk. They want to see the Joker get a big sockeroo on the chin and get tangled up in a net. That's classic funny-book entertainment."

I actually did want that kind of moral dilemma in a movie like this. You want to do funny and goofy? Bring me the three stooges. If you're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on some hugely anticipated film? I want something deep, or I'm not forking over the already ridiculous ticket and food prices (FYI, drive-ins rock!).

In case your comment was serious, the article was from the Onion.

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7/19/2012 10:18:48 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/19/2012 9:43:52 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 7/19/2012 9:19:42 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 7/19/2012 10:20:24 AM, tvellalott wrote:
OK, so it's 1am and I need to write this while my first experience is fresh in my mind. No spoilers, so don't worry. There might be a spoiler thread in the future when a few people have seen it.

Anyway, this movie was almost perfect and the faults were really minor and personal annoyances which really can't be discussed here... It's brilliantly written to keep you guessing about what's going to happen. Every single actor plays their character to a tee; new characters Bane, Selina Kyle (who is not called Catwoman through the entire film) and John Blake are all excellent and the supporting cast are great. Veterans Lucius Fox, Alfred and Bruce Wayne are all exactly as good (if not better) than they were in previous movies.
The plot is the perfect conclusion to the series. It borrows heavily from The Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall but doesn't follow either of those storylines instead simply continuing Nolan's vision of a realistic Batman... although the 'Bat' was pretty far out (can someone confirm whether this is possible technology?).
The pacing is perfect and the movie, which goes for nearly three hours, flies by.
Cinematography is beautiful and the costuming is great.

I'm giving this movie a 9.5/10. I would suggest that people pay careful attention when Bane talks; perhaps it was the outrageously loud iMax speakers but I found him difficult to understand at times and I think I missed about 5% of his dialogue. I will be watching it again at a regular cinema soon.

TL;DR version: If you liked the previous movies there is absolutely no reason for you to not see this immediately.

Sometimes* I really hate you Australians.


*By "sometimes" I mean all the time.

Get a kangaroo up ya.

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7/20/2012 9:08:57 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
ENDING PISSED ME OFF period.-_- directors need to learn to just kill off people when they need to, for the sake of the damn story.
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7/20/2012 9:13:38 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I think the movie is a 8/10 just cause of the ridiculously made ending. I do t read the comics so i don't know if that is what really happens, but seriously I can't stand movies that end the way dark knight did. I was going to give it a 9/10 before I saw the ending.
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7/20/2012 5:44:27 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I think movies can be TOO anticipated.

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7/20/2012 5:55:11 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/20/2012 9:13:38 AM, Loserboi wrote:
I think the movie is a 8/10 just cause of the ridiculously made ending. I do t read the comics so i don't know if that is what really happens, but seriously I can't stand movies that end the way dark knight did. I was going to give it a 9/10 before I saw the ending.

It isn't based on a specific comic...

Also this movie does not deserve a 9/10. Banes voice throughout the movie is difficult to understand, there are multiple continuity errors, SPOILERS The story between Bane and Talia Al Ghul is completely wrong, the whole fly a bomb with a 6 mile radius out over the bay is completely ridiculousEND SPOILERS

My Review
Cinematography = 10/10
Special Effects = 9.5/10
Dialogue = 9/10
Sound/Score = 7.5/10
Acting = 8.5/10
Plot = 7/10
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7/20/2012 8:08:51 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I heard this movie is very realistic.
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7/20/2012 8:13:47 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/20/2012 8:08:51 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
I heard this movie is very realistic.

I feel bad for laughing at that.
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7/20/2012 10:48:05 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/19/2012 6:33:32 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
I'm looking forward to Bain's anarchist overtones, too.

He was more Marxist then straight anarchist actually. His similarities to Lenin gave me shivvers.
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7/21/2012 2:03:54 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I liked Dark Knight Rises, but it was overwritten. (Let me note Memento and Dark Knight are two of my favorite films of all time).

It feels like this was a case where there was no one to tell Christopher Nolan "no." The film was overwritten thematically, had scenes drawn out further than necessary, and lost the coherency between villian, theme, and character arc that Dark Knight had (i.e. Joker tries to get Batman to be anarchist, theme is about anarchism/submitting to dark side, character arc is not submitting the way Harvey does.

Meanwhile, too little work was put in to Bale's relationship with women both in terms of his past girlfriend and the women in the film. The ending romance had no rhyme or reason to it, unlike the "star-crossed" Batman and Catwoman in the earlier film.

Dark Knight was a brilliant work of art. Dark Knight Rises was an okay action film that shoulda been 20 minutes shorter.
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7/21/2012 2:15:41 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
It was Objectivist pornography.

Good stuff though.
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7/21/2012 5:06:40 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/21/2012 2:15:41 AM, FREEDO wrote:
It was Objectivist pornography.

Good stuff though.

Eh, but halfway through it starts to conflate things with nihilism, collective goods (i.e. "we must destroy a city for the sake of the world"), a dash of populism (public trials for the rich), and some antiestablishment for good measure.
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7/25/2012 8:52:42 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Saw it last night and I can genuinely say it STANK: absolutely NO redeemimg features whatsoever..

And.. I AM a fan of the first 2..
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7/26/2012 12:03:30 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I saw this movie opening day and this is my assessment:

I got the feeling that the director was trying to shove too much of a story into one film, in a frustrating and failing attempt to tie off a movie series that no one, ostensibly including the director and actors, are willing to let go of. In other words, there was so much more that could happen with this, which would be completely acceptable if we were expecting a sequel. However, as far as everyone understands it, that was the end.

OR WAS IT?!

Yes. It was.

And, that doesn't really make such sense, does it?

spoiler alert

I mean, we have the suggestion of a Robin introduction, Batman finally got his shiit straight and decided what he was gonna do, there's the inevitable nuclear fallout that we should at least halfway expect in Gotham, there's the next stupid, biitchy, spiteful thing that Catwoman does, and of course, there's so many other brilliant villains that still need their moment in the spotlight. I mean, Bane is okay, he's dope and all, what with all the morphine and the incapacity to feel pain, but there are so much cooler criminals of Gotham, like Scarecrow or Dollmaker.

Remember Dollmaker? Now, that's something Christopher Nolan could have really run with.

Well, anyway, in its own right, it was certainly an entertaining movie. They did Bane right, for all that he is. Anne Hathaway could never, ever be Michelle Pfeiffer. She should have just went ahead and played the role, hot as she is despite her age.

That... that was a catwoman.

I mean, sure, there's Julie Newmar...

But, damn, did Michelle Pfeiffer play the hell out of that role.

Hathaway... didn't. She didn't suck, but she wasn't groundbreaking.
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7/26/2012 8:55:11 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/19/2012 9:50:37 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 7/19/2012 12:50:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
In case your comment was serious, the article was from the Onion.

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7/26/2012 9:19:43 PM
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At 7/26/2012 9:01:53 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Scarecrow was in the first of these Batman movies...

And I thought Catwoman's character was entertaining and well done.

He was also in the second movie. He started doling out vigilante justice at the beginning and Batman took him down, remember?
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7/26/2012 10:40:35 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 7/26/2012 9:19:43 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 7/26/2012 9:01:53 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Scarecrow was in the first of these Batman movies...

And I thought Catwoman's character was entertaining and well done.

He was also in the second movie. He started doling out vigilante justice at the beginning and Batman took him down, remember?

Yeah and he was technically in the last one two as his regular self.

I liked the Dark Knight Rises immensely. It was a fantastic film.

I can't wait to see the Superman movie Nolan is producing :D
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7/29/2012 6:29:13 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 7/26/2012 10:40:35 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 7/26/2012 9:19:43 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 7/26/2012 9:01:53 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Scarecrow was in the first of these Batman movies...

And I thought Catwoman's character was entertaining and well done.

He was also in the second movie. He started doling out vigilante justice at the beginning and Batman took him down, remember?

Yeah and he was technically in the last one two as his regular self.

I liked the Dark Knight Rises immensely. It was a fantastic film.

I can't wait to see the Superman movie Nolan is producing :D

Oh God, a Superman movie. I DREAD THE VERY IDEA (making a cross with my fingers). I've just never liked Superman, especially cause Batman is way more badass. The Dark Knight Rises was amazing. If you don't see it, your cattle will grow warts everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE.

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7/31/2012 11:52:40 PM
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I felt like the story lacked some depth. The villan was not that great. He threw a few fists and kicks at Batman, but I felt like Nolan should've added The Riddler, Penguin, or someone else as well. Also, how did Bane have all the resources to pull off what he did in Gotham?!? That wasn't really explained in the film, but I'm assuming that investor guy gave him a lot of money upfront. What I did like was the ending.

*SPOILER ALERT*

I think that naming Joseph Gordon Levitt as "Robin" was great. It kind of leaves the door open for a spin off film or something, although I know Nolan won't go for it and neither will fans. That scene with Alfred and Bruce at the cafe at the end was mint ;)
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8/1/2012 3:06:02 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 7/31/2012 11:52:40 PM, Osiris wrote:
I felt like the story lacked some depth. The villan was not that great. He threw a few fists and kicks at Batman, but I felt like Nolan should've added The Riddler, Penguin, or someone else as well. Also, how did Bane have all the resources to pull off what he did in Gotham?!? That wasn't really explained in the film, but I'm assuming that investor guy gave him a lot of money upfront. What I did like was the ending.

Bane was working with Talia Al Ghul, who was controlling the league of shadows. Furthermore, as you said... he had the biggest criminals in the city paying him and letting him use his resources in exchange for help in taking control of Wayne Enterprises.

It's explained extremely well.


*SPOILER ALERT*



I think that naming Joseph Gordon Levitt as "Robin" was great. It kind of leaves the door open for a spin off film or something, although I know Nolan won't go for it and neither will fans. That scene with Alfred and Bruce at the cafe at the end was mint ;)

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8/2/2012 7:08:00 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 7/31/2012 11:52:40 PM, Osiris wrote:
I felt like the story lacked some depth. The villan was not that great. He threw a few fists and kicks at Batman, but I felt like Nolan should've added The Riddler, Penguin, or someone else as well. Also, how did Bane have all the resources to pull off what he did in Gotham?!? That wasn't really explained in the film, but I'm assuming that investor guy gave him a lot of money upfront. What I did like was the ending.




*SPOILER ALERT*



I think that naming Joseph Gordon Levitt as "Robin" was great. It kind of leaves the door open for a spin off film or something, although I know Nolan won't go for it and neither will fans. That scene with Alfred and Bruce at the cafe at the end was mint ;)

Agree the Riddler might have made an interesting villain; I think they considered it in pre-production. Penguin I'm not so sure, I have doubts that they could have recreated the character to fit in without undermining the darker, more down to earth world Nolan had created.
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8/2/2012 7:13:08 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Loved this movie as well.

SPOILER ALERT

The prison sequence with Wayne climbing out of the hole was really quite poetic, lots of symbolism being used there. In fact, its that whole second act of the movie which truly separates this triology from the other Batman flicks, for me at least. It reaches deeper and I think succeeds in discussing some deeper issues such as pain, grief, and recovery.
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