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Mharman
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12/11/2017 12:34:53 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
TOWN WINS!!!!!
Just kidding, you got all three scum. ;)

Link to PetersSmith's profile: http://www.debate.org...

1st Place: Town
2nd Place: Mafia
3rd Place Third Party

Role PMs

Town

[LikeMagic] - You are Doge. In PetersSmith's eyes, you are a deity who is an all-powerful emperor. You see all. Thus, you are a 2x Cop. Once per night, with a limit of two, you may select any player to investigate, revealing their affiliation to you. You win with town.

[Disc] - You are Kate. In PetersSmith's eyes, you are Doge's Queen. You want to grow and nurture what you created. Thus, you are a 1x Angel. Once per game at night, you may target a player and protect said player from dying that night and from being lynched the next DP. You win with town.

[YYW] - You are Lt. Doog, loyal servant and defender of the royal family. You are willing to do whatever it takes to defend the royal family. Thus, you are a Martyr. If you are killed in the night, you will write a note to the town revealing your killer. In the next Day Phase, the note will be shown to the town. You win with town.

[Ten] - You are Date, son of Doge and Kate, and heir to the throne. You will be the most powerful being of all time. However, your powers haven"t developed yet. Thus, you are a vanilla. You win with town.

[Pie] - You are PetersSmith herself. You are a mere servant to the royal family. Thus, you are a vanilla. You win with town.

[Bailey] - You are SretepThims, the calm feminist side of PetersSmith. Still, you are horribly misguided. Thus, you are a vanilla. You win with town.

[Forever] - You are SmithPeters, the Meme Queen side of PetersSmith. You have CRipPLing DepRESsiOn. Thus, you are a vanilla. You win with town.

[Unstob] - You are Maria Draw, the lady in PetersSmith's profile picture. You"re from some video game/movie/TV show/IDK that I don"t know about. Thus, you are a vanilla. You win with town.

CORRECTED: You are Lady Maria, the lady in PetersSmith's profile picture. You're from Bloodborne, which is some video game/movie/TV show/IDK that I don't know about. Thus, you are a vanilla. You win with town.

NOTE: Mod error was due to Google Image search giving me misleading result upon the initial search.

Mafia

[Geo] - You are Slothe, Bringer of Darkness, Blight, and the Corrupted. Thus, you are a Reaper. When you commit the NK, you will priority roleblock them. You win with Mafia.

NOTE: Reaper was created to counter the Martyr role, which made me cringe when scum didn't use it NP2.

[Vaarka] - You are the The Commander, Slothe"s second in command. You do not have the powers Slothe has. Thus, you are a goon. You win with mafia.

Third Party

[Uther] - You are ThimsSretep, the angry feminist side of PetersSmith. You spout in anger at anyone who disagrees with you. Thus, you are a miller. You will appear guilty to all investigative roles. You win with town. (Converted to TP via modkill).

[Rocket] - You are the Harbinger of Destruction. You are a dark, shape-shifting beast created by Slothe out of pure darkness. Thus, you are a Godfather. You will appear innocent to all investigative roles. You win with mafia. (Converted to TP via modkill).

Night Actions

NP1
Geo - NK LikeMagic

NP2
Vaarka - NK YYW {EXTREME CRINGE}
Disc - Angel Pie

NP3
Geo - NK Disc (NK randomly chosen due to indecisiveness and inactivity)

Special Thanks To:
TUF for reveiwing my game for balance.
Chaos, too, I guess.

THE STREAK HAS BEEN SNAPPED!
meme
YYW
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12/11/2017 12:40:56 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Well, I thought all hope was lost after MHarman made the incredibly naughty decision to kill Uther. However, I am pleased that town prevailed in the end. I will post my thoughts later.
YYW
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12/11/2017 12:43:28 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
In the end, night killing me made sense. I had Geo down and would have figured out he was scum. While I know TUF and Mharman seem to disagree with that decision, Varka's calculated risk was that Ten could have been framed as mafia. Given how strongly and idiotically both DD and Pie held onto that delusion, he had a fighting chance, too.

Ten is, nevertheless, this game's MVP, without question.
YYW
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12/11/2017 12:43:56 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 12:41:34 AM, Mharman wrote:
TOWN MVP: Unstob
SCUM MVP: Geo

Nah. Unstob is not the MVP. He played pretty terribly. Ten is the MVP.
YYW
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12/11/2017 12:53:22 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 12:41:34 AM, Mharman wrote:
TOWN MVP: Unstob
SCUM MVP: Geo

Side note:

If you want people to play your games in the future, you need to be more professional in terms of how you mod.

Mod killing Rocket was incredibly out of line, if your only justification for that was that he spoke in the group PM. That is a policy you should not have adopted in the first place. It upsets balance of the game. Had you not implemented that policy, you would have never had to create the reaper (an overpowered role in the first instance), and the game would have gone better.

I do not think this game was balanced at all. I think it was substantially biased in favor of the mafia. Beyond that point, you should never put a miller in the game. While others may have their own incorrect opinions, it is per se bastard modding.

Worse, you should not have killed Uther. While Uther is an idiot and a troll -- there were plenty of idiots in this game not the least of whom should have been mod killed either. Spamming the forum is something you cannot modkill someone for, then to go on and engage in yourself. Realize that that's exactly what you did, and it's not good. You need to be consistent.

From your perspective, I understand what may have gone through your head: Uther is a bad player, he does not play pro-town, he certainly didn't SOP claim even when he should have, and in general he is more of a liability than an asset to any team. That said, if you allow him to play, then you can't punish him for doing the same thing you would later go on to do.

To be clear though, I don't care if you spam, just like I don't really care if Uther spams. What I care about is you denying the town another safety net. In reality, this game was basically a 7-3 scum game where Forever played like a worthless troglodyte, Uther was modkilled, and LM did nothing whatsoever.
YYW
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12/11/2017 1:00:55 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 12:55:02 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:43:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Ten is, nevertheless, this game's MVP, without question.

smh.

Facts are facts. There is literally no reasonable justification for giving it to Unstoppable.
TUF
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12/11/2017 1:04:34 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:00:55 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:55:02 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:43:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Ten is, nevertheless, this game's MVP, without question.

smh.

Facts are facts. There is literally no reasonable justification for giving it to Unstoppable.

Whatever, he totally carried the town.
YYW
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12/11/2017 1:09:21 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:04:34 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:00:55 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:55:02 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:43:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Ten is, nevertheless, this game's MVP, without question.

smh.

Facts are facts. There is literally no reasonable justification for giving it to Unstoppable.

Whatever, he totally carried the town.

Ten did carry the town.
TUF
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12/11/2017 1:10:00 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:09:21 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:04:34 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:00:55 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:55:02 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:43:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Ten is, nevertheless, this game's MVP, without question.

smh.

Facts are facts. There is literally no reasonable justification for giving it to Unstoppable.

Whatever, he totally carried the town.

Ten did carry the town.

You certainly did.
Unstobbaple
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12/11/2017 1:12:55 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 12:43:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:41:34 AM, Mharman wrote:
TOWN MVP: Unstob
SCUM MVP: Geo

Nah. Unstob is not the MVP. He played pretty terribly. Ten is the MVP.

I got Rocket and Vaarka lynched when everyone pulled their votes of and you and DD were going sideways on a RE lynch. You wanted to kill DD that whole round. I also got Pie to back off of Ten when he just couldn't play nice and focused on Geo.

Ten put time in but he did not get them lynched. I did in spite of him being an as in the last round.
YYW
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12/11/2017 1:13:23 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:10:00 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:09:21 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:04:34 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:00:55 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:55:02 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:43:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Ten is, nevertheless, this game's MVP, without question.

smh.

Facts are facts. There is literally no reasonable justification for giving it to Unstoppable.

Whatever, he totally carried the town.

Ten did carry the town.

You certainly did.

Is that why you're being such a dick about this?

We are literally not the same person.
Unstobbaple
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12/11/2017 1:15:36 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:10:00 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:09:21 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:04:34 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:00:55 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:55:02 AM, TUF wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:43:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Ten is, nevertheless, this game's MVP, without question.

smh.

Facts are facts. There is literally no reasonable justification for giving it to Unstoppable.

Whatever, he totally carried the town.

Ten did carry the town.

You certainly did.

Common, you weren't in the game. Ten worked hard to have a weak impact on other town members. I got the results.
YYW
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12/11/2017 1:28:12 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:16:34 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:10:14 AM, TUF wrote:
He*

Oh lol, thought you were being serious.

It wasn"t a typeo he is being a dick
Unstobbaple
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12/11/2017 1:30:44 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:28:12 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:16:34 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:10:14 AM, TUF wrote:
He*

Oh lol, thought you were being serious.

It wasn"t a typeo he is being a dick

Yeah, he was implying either that you are the same person, which Zmike put out, or that he followed your lead for the most part. He did do that even post mortem.
YYW
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12/11/2017 1:46:48 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:30:44 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:28:12 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:16:34 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:10:14 AM, TUF wrote:
He*

Oh lol, thought you were being serious.

It wasn"t a typeo he is being a dick

Yeah, he was implying either that you are the same person, which Zmike put out, or that he followed your lead for the most part. He did do that even post mortem.

He's doing the former.
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12/11/2017 1:55:42 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
We're all forgetting that my CC ended the lives of 2 scum.

Nevertheless, it would have been a town victory if we lynched Ten anyways because my next target was Geo, and so was Baileys/Unstop

But anyways y'all, gg.
Unstobbaple
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12/11/2017 2:04:38 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:55:42 AM, ILikePie5 wrote:
We're all forgetting that my CC ended the lives of 2 scum.

Nevertheless, it would have been a town victory if we lynched Ten anyways because my next target was Geo, and so was Baileys/Unstop

But anyways y'all, gg.

I'd like to see the scum thread on that. Not sure how he convinced Vaarka to add a fake character claim to save his asss.

It did almost work, given the obscure theme but it backfired a lot. Geo barely reacted during that entire exchange which threw me off.
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12/11/2017 2:14:16 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 2:04:38 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:55:42 AM, ILikePie5 wrote:
We're all forgetting that my CC ended the lives of 2 scum.

Nevertheless, it would have been a town victory if we lynched Ten anyways because my next target was Geo, and so was Baileys/Unstop

But anyways y'all, gg.

I'd like to see the scum thread on that. Not sure how he convinced Vaarka to add a fake character claim to save his asss.

It did almost work, given the obscure theme but it backfired a lot. Geo barely reacted during that entire exchange which threw me off.

Yup, that totally backfired on them. I'm surprised why Vaarka also claimed the same thing as RE. It just made it worse.
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12/11/2017 2:29:54 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:46:48 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:30:44 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:28:12 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:16:34 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 1:10:14 AM, TUF wrote:
He*

Oh lol, thought you were being serious.

It wasn"t a typeo he is being a dick

Yeah, he was implying either that you are the same person, which Zmike put out, or that he followed your lead for the most part. He did do that even post mortem.

He's doing the former.

Relax man, just join the hangouts, gonna try to get some mafia going.
Vaarka
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12/11/2017 4:38:08 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 1:12:55 AM, Unstobbaple wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:43:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/11/2017 12:41:34 AM, Mharman wrote:
TOWN MVP: Unstob
SCUM MVP: Geo

Nah. Unstob is not the MVP. He played pretty terribly. Ten is the MVP.

I got Rocket and Vaarka lynched when everyone pulled their votes of and you and DD were going sideways on a RE lynch. You wanted to kill DD that whole round. I also got Pie to back off of Ten when he just couldn't play nice and focused on Geo.

Ten put time in but he did not get them lynched. I did in spite of him being an as in the last round.

I have to admit, there were a few factors that more or less led to our deaths.

First was Rocket's plan for us to all claim the same character after he was CC'd. Geo didn't go with it, and I made the mistake of going with it. That got Rocket lynched, and then it got me lynched.

Of course me NKing YYW also did it, but in my defense, I didn't read the last few pages of DP2. We had been planning to NK Disc b/c I suspected him of being a power role, however Mharman made new PMs for living mafia (dead means dead), and Geo I guess didn't know our plan, because he suggested we NK YYW. I don't really blame him for it since I went with it without hesitation.

While I do agree that uther should not have been modkilled, I believe most of what Mharman did was fine. The thread fights were bad (Mharman, future reference... don't do that), but most of the crap he got was, in my opinion, uncalled for. He is the mod, so his decisions are law. If you have a problem with how he mods, then remember that you were the one who signed up.

Rocket's Modkill, even if he says otherwise, became warranted. While it probably didn't HAVE to happen, Mharman's rule was that once mafia was dead, they couldn't talk. Rocket made it clear he had a problem with this by posting in the old mafia PM, which Mharman told us not to post in. He gave us several warnings, and even threatened to modkill if we kept talking. Rocket then basically told him to MK him.

Good game, I want to play town next time XP
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Chaos88
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12/11/2017 4:56:49 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Numbers favored mafia, but roles favored town. So, it was interesting...
Town had two power roles that could wreck mafia, and that is too much power, especially when only one role can prevent it. Regardless, town played pretty well, from what I saw. Mafia did not.
Miller was stupid to include, given the numbers.

FYI, this is why MVPs are pretty dumb, because there is rarely one player acting unilaterally. Ten did very well DP1 and created discussion (I pegged either him or Rocket as scum when I posted, and that would have lead me to Vaarka with his defense of Rocket). Unstoppable had a salient observation about Rocket, although, uninformed when saying there was no precedent. YYW, for some reason talking in another thread about lynch all liars and yet lied himself, tried to draw the NK and lead town. All were power plays in their own right that helped town win.

Advice to mafia: know when to bus, and know how town plays (or lack thereof). Rocket's gamble was not a bad attempt, but town wouldn't care enough, and all it does is sink your own with you. Know your audience.

And people need to stop being like "oh, we've lost" after one mislynch, or a mod-kill, or anything. The game isn't over until it's over.
Geographia
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12/11/2017 7:43:10 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
This game killed my interest in mafia when Mhar did not post every mafia's PM in the mafia PM. I thought there was a Usurper and that only caused confusion.
I am just adding space here, since its currently hip and happening
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12/11/2017 12:56:30 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Geo claimed a character mentioned in a scum flip.

Tenyearsoflight claimed a character mentioned in two town flips.

How did yhis take so long?
Reporting a scumbag to the mods of DDO:

https://youtu.be...

Peace is good, war is bad. "Peace at any price", however... that way of thinking is simply evil.
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12/12/2017 12:19:19 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
It's 2017. Group PMs should not be a thing.
Stooge the Worst

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#UnbanTheCuntMan

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12/12/2017 1:10:21 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 12/11/2017 12:56:30 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
Geo claimed a character mentioned in a scum flip.

Tenyearsoflight claimed a character mentioned in two town flips.

How did yhis take so long?

I didn't even think of the geo being mentioned in rockets PM. But yeah, ten was town confirmed way early, pie was being obstinate