Beginner's Games Mafia 9.2 - Day Phase 2.2

At 5/5/2012 2:36:53 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
So if I can get this straight (cutting through all the rhetoric), the main reasons I was almost lynched were 1) I VTNL (along with 5 others mind you, and yes, this is my first true mafia game) last day phase? and 2) because I wasn't active since, last night no one was active, I went to sleep and then, today, I went to work?

I'm obviously quite biased, but, those seem like rather weak reasons....

If those are the only reasons, was HCP just trying to force a mislynch?

Yeah it would kind of appear that way.. But I don't know, its true that we shouldn't vtnl

At 5/5/2012 2:38:19 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:59 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:18:38 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Since I just got on and saw I am being lynced....I'm going to full claim.

I win with the town. I am the doctor.

You should have claimed vanilla townie...

No, he claimed right. If he claimed vanilla, he would have died.

Why would we have had to kill him? Pro-town players do not need to know who the doc is. Now the mafia has a power role they can come after and severely weaken the town.

At 5/5/2012 2:40:42 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:38:19 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:59 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:18:38 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Since I just got on and saw I am being lynced....I'm going to full claim.

I win with the town. I am the doctor.

You should have claimed vanilla townie...

No, he claimed right. If he claimed vanilla, he would have died.

Why would we have had to kill him? Pro-town players do not need to know who the doc is. Now the mafia has a power role they can come after and severely weaken the town.

No, because he can just doc himself, it's fine.

At 5/5/2012 2:37:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:53 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
So if I can get this straight (cutting through all the rhetoric), the main reasons I was almost lynched were 1) I VTNL (along with 5 others mind you, and yes, this is my first true mafia game) last day phase? and 2) because I wasn't active since, last night no one was active, I went to sleep and then, today, I went to work?

I'm obviously quite biased, but, those seem like rather weak reasons....

If those are the only reasons, was HCP just trying to force a mislynch?

We have to get a lynch this DP.

So why me? There were 6 people who VTNL, why choose one of the least experienced players to target? If I recall correctly, "Buddamoose, Bomb, IFLY, WriterDave, airmax, Johnny, kyro" all VTNL. Kyro, Budda, and Airmaxx are all more experienced than me. They obviously would know that to VTNL on DP1 is bad. How would I know? So why would you target me again? Why not say Kyro? or Airmaxx?

At 5/5/2012 2:41:17 PM, THEBOMB wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:37:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:53 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
So if I can get this straight (cutting through all the rhetoric), the main reasons I was almost lynched were 1) I VTNL (along with 5 others mind you, and yes, this is my first true mafia game) last day phase? and 2) because I wasn't active since, last night no one was active, I went to sleep and then, today, I went to work?

I'm obviously quite biased, but, those seem like rather weak reasons....

If those are the only reasons, was HCP just trying to force a mislynch?

We have to get a lynch this DP.

So why me? There were 6 people who VTNL, why choose one of the least experienced players to target? If I recall correctly, "Buddamoose, Bomb, IFLY, WriterDave, airmax, Johnny, kyro" all VTNL. Kyro, Budda, and Airmaxx are all more experienced than me. They obviously would know that to VTNL on DP1 is bad. How would I know? So why would you target me again? Why not say Kyro? or Airmaxx?

I FOSed airmax, and now that you're doc, we're lynching airmax.

Kyro always bandwagons, regardless

At 5/5/2012 2:42:01 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:41:17 PM, THEBOMB wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:37:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:53 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
So if I can get this straight (cutting through all the rhetoric), the main reasons I was almost lynched were 1) I VTNL (along with 5 others mind you, and yes, this is my first true mafia game) last day phase? and 2) because I wasn't active since, last night no one was active, I went to sleep and then, today, I went to work?

I'm obviously quite biased, but, those seem like rather weak reasons....

If those are the only reasons, was HCP just trying to force a mislynch?

We have to get a lynch this DP.

So why me? There were 6 people who VTNL, why choose one of the least experienced players to target? If I recall correctly, "Buddamoose, Bomb, IFLY, WriterDave, airmax, Johnny, kyro" all VTNL. Kyro, Budda, and Airmaxx are all more experienced than me. They obviously would know that to VTNL on DP1 is bad. How would I know? So why would you target me again? Why not say Kyro? or Airmaxx?

I FOSed airmax, and now that you're doc, we're lynching airmax.

Kyro always bandwagons, regardless

I've been active and attempting to get claims, your FOS on me makes no sense

Since we have to lynch someone,

VTL HCP

1) weak justification. Appears he was trying to force a mislycnch.
2) What was his motivation for choosing one of the least experienced players to target while the rest can just place it on their inexperience. Was I role-copped randomly by mafia?
3) Since we have to VTL this DP, why not him?

At 5/5/2012 2:41:11 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:40:42 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:38:19 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:59 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:18:38 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Since I just got on and saw I am being lynced....I'm going to full claim.

I win with the town. I am the doctor.

You should have claimed vanilla townie...

No, he claimed right. If he claimed vanilla, he would have died.

Why would we have had to kill him? Pro-town players do not need to know who the doc is. Now the mafia has a power role they can come after and severely weaken the town.

No, because he can just doc himself, it's fine.

But when we find out who the cop is, this game becomes a lot trickier. Yes the doc will now protect himself, but it doesn't mean we should give the mafia that information...

Vote Count
thebomb 3/6 - kyro, IFLY, west
airmax 1/6 - HCP
WriterDave 1/6 - airmax
HCP 1/6 - thebomb

Top FOS's

1) HCP

Attempted to mislynch Thebomb and for all the reasons thebomb just cited

2) WriterDave

Refused to claim in DP1, has been inactive and still has yet to claim

At 5/5/2012 2:42:01 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:41:17 PM, THEBOMB wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:37:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:53 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
So if I can get this straight (cutting through all the rhetoric), the main reasons I was almost lynched were 1) I VTNL (along with 5 others mind you, and yes, this is my first true mafia game) last day phase? and 2) because I wasn't active since, last night no one was active, I went to sleep and then, today, I went to work?

I'm obviously quite biased, but, those seem like rather weak reasons....

If those are the only reasons, was HCP just trying to force a mislynch?

We have to get a lynch this DP.

So why me? There were 6 people who VTNL, why choose one of the least experienced players to target? If I recall correctly, "Buddamoose, Bomb, IFLY, WriterDave, airmax, Johnny, kyro" all VTNL. Kyro, Budda, and Airmaxx are all more experienced than me. They obviously would know that to VTNL on DP1 is bad. How would I know? So why would you target me again? Why not say Kyro? or Airmaxx?

I FOSed airmax, and now that you're doc, we're lynching airmax.

Kyro always bandwagons, regardless

What's your justification? Do you even have any? Or is it just a hunch?

At 5/5/2012 2:23:36 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
unvote

Moving onto my next fos.

VTL Airmax

Ok. What's your explanation for this one? Cause so far Airmax has seemed pretty pro town.

To be honest, if there is anyone acting kinda scummy I would go for WD..

At 5/5/2012 2:47:18 PM, THEBOMB wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:42:01 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:41:17 PM, THEBOMB wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:37:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:53 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
So if I can get this straight (cutting through all the rhetoric), the main reasons I was almost lynched were 1) I VTNL (along with 5 others mind you, and yes, this is my first true mafia game) last day phase? and 2) because I wasn't active since, last night no one was active, I went to sleep and then, today, I went to work?

I'm obviously quite biased, but, those seem like rather weak reasons....

If those are the only reasons, was HCP just trying to force a mislynch?

We have to get a lynch this DP.

So why me? There were 6 people who VTNL, why choose one of the least experienced players to target? If I recall correctly, "Buddamoose, Bomb, IFLY, WriterDave, airmax, Johnny, kyro" all VTNL. Kyro, Budda, and Airmaxx are all more experienced than me. They obviously would know that to VTNL on DP1 is bad. How would I know? So why would you target me again? Why not say Kyro? or Airmaxx?

I FOSed airmax, and now that you're doc, we're lynching airmax.

Kyro always bandwagons, regardless

What's your justification? Do you even have any? Or is it just a hunch?

I bandwagoned on the vtnl when everyone refused to claim.. yeah, that's really the justification

At 5/5/2012 2:50:19 PM, airmax1227 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:47:18 PM, THEBOMB wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:42:01 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:41:17 PM, THEBOMB wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:37:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:36:53 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
So if I can get this straight (cutting through all the rhetoric), the main reasons I was almost lynched were 1) I VTNL (along with 5 others mind you, and yes, this is my first true mafia game) last day phase? and 2) because I wasn't active since, last night no one was active, I went to sleep and then, today, I went to work?

I'm obviously quite biased, but, those seem like rather weak reasons....

If those are the only reasons, was HCP just trying to force a mislynch?

We have to get a lynch this DP.

So why me? There were 6 people who VTNL, why choose one of the least experienced players to target? If I recall correctly, "Buddamoose, Bomb, IFLY, WriterDave, airmax, Johnny, kyro" all VTNL. Kyro, Budda, and Airmaxx are all more experienced than me. They obviously would know that to VTNL on DP1 is bad. How would I know? So why would you target me again? Why not say Kyro? or Airmaxx?

I FOSed airmax, and now that you're doc, we're lynching airmax.

Kyro always bandwagons, regardless

What's your justification? Do you even have any? Or is it just a hunch?

I bandwagoned on the vtnl when everyone refused to claim.. yeah, that's really the justification

Wow....that's pretty weak. Very weak.

At 5/5/2012 2:50:15 PM, OGough wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:23:36 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
unvote

Moving onto my next fos.

VTL Airmax

Ok. What's your explanation for this one? Cause so far Airmax has seemed pretty pro town.

To be honest, if there is anyone acting kinda scummy I would go for WD..

WD or HCP seem like the best bets now... neither have claimed anything, and HCP just nearly lead a mislynch on thebomb

At 5/5/2012 2:55:08 PM, airmax1227 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:50:15 PM, OGough wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:23:36 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
unvote

Moving onto my next fos.

VTL Airmax

Ok. What's your explanation for this one? Cause so far Airmax has seemed pretty pro town.

To be honest, if there is anyone acting kinda scummy I would go for WD..

WD or HCP seem like the best bets now... neither have claimed anything, and HCP just nearly lead a mislynch on thebomb

Lynch one, cop the other.

You're forgetting that WD is new and that's what he does.

At 5/5/2012 2:56:20 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
You're forgetting that WD is new and that's what he does.

Well then he needs to learn.. if he's gona be inactive and not know how to play he's a far better choice for a mislynch than thebomb, wouldn't ya say?

On a side note, does HCP have anything to say in his own defense? (I am a fair and rational minded person....)

Vote Count
thebomb 2/6 - kyro, IFLY
airmax 1/6 - HCP
WriterDave 1/6 - airmax
HCP 1/6 - thebomb

At 5/5/2012 2:55:08 PM, airmax1227 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:50:15 PM, OGough wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:23:36 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
unvote

Moving onto my next fos.

VTL Airmax

Ok. What's your explanation for this one? Cause so far Airmax has seemed pretty pro town.

To be honest, if there is anyone acting kinda scummy I would go for WD..

WD or HCP seem like the best bets now... neither have claimed anything, and HCP just nearly lead a mislynch on thebomb

I do agree with TB that your justification is kinda week...
But you do have a point. HCP has just tried bloody hard to get rid of town, to a point that we almost lynched him completely; and this game is gona be pretty hard for us without a doc. Seems kinda scummy to me.
So
VTL HCP
But if TB is CCed then I'm happy to withdraw my VTL.

Co-Mod Note: Make sure you bold your vote.

At 5/5/2012 3:08:09 PM, Xerge wrote:
Co-Mod Note: Make sure you bold your vote.

Sorry.

VTL HCP

At 5/5/2012 2:57:23 PM, airmax1227 wrote:

At 5/5/2012 2:56:20 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
You're forgetting that WD is new and that's what he does.

Well then he needs to learn.. if he's gona be inactive and not know how to play he's a far better choice for a mislynch than thebomb, wouldn't ya say?

Sure, it's as good as any.

unvote
vtl wd

Look, HCP is good candidate to be copped- but as of now, I think WD is a better lynch candidate.

Going back to DP1, he refuses to claim. Now if he was a townie, he obviously would just have claimed vanilla. But if he was mafia goon or mafia role cop, he obviously would not want to claim. So given that fact, I think it is more likely he refused to claim because he has something to hide. Couple this with the fact he has been inactive- which is major scum behavior- I think he is our best lynch bet.

Unvote. VTL WriterDave.

But WD refuses to claim in every game. I remember in USM's game, he refused to claim, but was town.

At 5/5/2012 3:18:57 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
But WD refuses to claim in every game. I remember in USM's game, he refused to claim, but was town.

Hmm... that is true. Either way, he needs to learn a lesson. You don't refuse to claim just because you don't feel like it. If he is town, he needs to learn to help town out. Also, in every game I have been in with him so far, he has been active. So why the sudden change?

Like THEBOMB, I will give WD the chance to defend himself. If his reasons aren't adequte, he needs to be lynched.

C'mon WriterDave, you've been online for an hour now. Please tell us why you refused to claim so town can come to a decision.