Joining the army.

At 4/30/2012 3:48:06 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Ok, not speaking politically here and I don't claim to know what is best for you personally. but I would strongly advise you NOT to do it. The supposed benefits are a huge lie. The United States does not take very good care of it's veterans. 1 in 4 homeless people are veterans. And if you are put into active duty you are likely to be inflicted with irreparable brain damage due to the stress.

At 4/30/2012 3:58:34 PM, Koopin wrote:
Navy will give you better life skills. But do what ya gotta do.

At 4/30/2012 3:43:32 PM, TUF wrote:
I am thinking about joining the army. I have been thinking about for months, and I finally contacted a recruiter. I am going to go in and talk to them about the different branches and benefits.

Does anyone here have any first hand experience with the army? What is the branch you would reccomend and why? Is it good pay?


I am looking for a change in my life. I feel so useless here. All my money for the next 5 months is being garnished as soon as my paychecks come in, after this next month, my savings will have run dry and I will no longer be able to live. This seems like a good escape from it all, and I feel like I could develope myself a lot through this.

Let me know what you think.

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:
And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

At 4/30/2012 4:34:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

False. I've got 4 friends in the military. The one I see most is always saying how bad the military sucks. He's been in it for almost 8 years. All of them have been in combat. He agrees that the military makes you a pawn and that it's for unjust causes. He regrets ever going to the military.

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

At 4/30/2012 4:42:25 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:34:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
False. I've got 4 friends in the military. The one I see most is always saying how bad the military sucks. He's been in it for almost 8 years. All of them have been in combat. He agrees that the military makes you a pawn and that it's for unjust causes. He regrets ever going to the military.

Yeah, cause one guy said it, thats the case.

Shouldn't have signed up in the first place then Herpaderp.

At 4/30/2012 4:42:25 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:34:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

False. I've got 4 friends in the military. The one I see most is always saying how bad the military sucks. He's been in it for almost 8 years. All of them have been in combat. He agrees that the military makes you a pawn and that it's for unjust causes. He regrets ever going to the military.

Yeah, cause one guy said it, thats the case. Shouldn't have signed up in the first place then Herpaderp.

At 4/30/2012 5:10:00 PM, 16kadams wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:42:25 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:34:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

False. I've got 4 friends in the military. The one I see most is always saying how bad the military sucks. He's been in it for almost 8 years. All of them have been in combat. He agrees that the military makes you a pawn and that it's for unjust causes. He regrets ever going to the military.

Yeah, cause one guy said it, thats the case. Shouldn't have signed up in the first place then Herpaderp.

Ober, sorry, he is right. US troops are more likely tot do suicide then die in combat, the army sucks.
http://current...

At 4/30/2012 5:10:47 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 5:10:00 PM, 16kadams wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:42:25 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:34:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

False. I've got 4 friends in the military. The one I see most is always saying how bad the military sucks. He's been in it for almost 8 years. All of them have been in combat. He agrees that the military makes you a pawn and that it's for unjust causes. He regrets ever going to the military.

Yeah, cause one guy said it, thats the case. Shouldn't have signed up in the first place then Herpaderp.

Ober, sorry, he is right. US troops are more likely tot do suicide then die in combat, the army sucks.
http://current...

That pertains to this, because......>?

At 4/30/2012 5:10:47 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 5:10:00 PM, 16kadams wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:42:25 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:34:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

False. I've got 4 friends in the military. The one I see most is always saying how bad the military sucks. He's been in it for almost 8 years. All of them have been in combat. He agrees that the military makes you a pawn and that it's for unjust causes. He regrets ever going to the military.

Yeah, cause one guy said it, thats the case. Shouldn't have signed up in the first place then Herpaderp.

Ober, sorry, he is right. US troops are more likely tot do suicide then die in combat, the army sucks.
http://current...

That pertains to this, because......>?

At 4/30/2012 5:15:21 PM, 16kadams wrote:

At 4/30/2012 5:10:47 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 5:10:00 PM, 16kadams wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:42:25 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:34:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:19:27 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/30/2012 4:00:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
You want to sign your life over to the government? They own you for your entire term.
I guess if your life is in the pits then go for it, you get to travel for free and see foreign lands. But know that you won't be fighting for our freedom, but for unjust wars. If your life is going even relatively well, DO NOT join the military.

Geo, this is the part where you shut the hell up before you show have ignorant you really are.

And, about the whole "Unjust Wars" thing, the chances of him being deployed into combat are quite low.

False. I've got 4 friends in the military. The one I see most is always saying how bad the military sucks. He's been in it for almost 8 years. All of them have been in combat. He agrees that the military makes you a pawn and that it's for unjust causes. He regrets ever going to the military.

Yeah, cause one guy said it, thats the case. Shouldn't have signed up in the first place then Herpaderp.

Ober, sorry, he is right. US troops are more likely tot do suicide then die in combat, the army sucks.
http://current...

That pertains to this, because......>?

An army with high suicide rates means they are likely being treated unjustly, our army is......... ugh. Honor them.

At 4/30/2012 5:16:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Oh, and Geo, I FINALLY get to use this quote:

"Unjust War =/= Unjust military. Keep fapping the good fap Geo(Changed from Charleslb)."

-Greyparrot

At 4/30/2012 5:18:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

At 4/30/2012 5:16:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Oh, and Geo, I FINALLY get to use this quote:

"Unjust War =/= Unjust military. Keep fapping the good fap Geo(Changed from Charleslb)."

-Greyparrot

Hahaha! Nice strawman! Show me where I said the military is unjust? I said it sucks being in the military and that they send you to fight unjust wars.

At 4/30/2012 5:28:33 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
Seriously, I can't think of a single reason why Ober seems to be encouraging people to join.
Having worked for the UK ministry of defence, and met a lot of soldiers, I can't blame them for the heinous actions they must commit, but to actively recommend becoming one of them seems beyond me.