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12/10/2017 5:57:14 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.

Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms

Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.

This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines
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12/11/2017 7:59:41 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
I'm afraid I don't know much about Synergetics, though I admit to a dimwitted fascination with hypercubes.

Do you believe the universe is a simulation, or are you using "operating system" to refer to physics?
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12/11/2017 5:24:51 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Here is the truncation of Pi{ transcendental irrational } done by my Windows 10 OS calculator to become a finite irrational.

3.14 15 92 65 35 89 79 32 38 46 26 43 38 32 79 5

31 stands out as being most rational of all my Pi powerings because of the two OO that follow/begin on the irrational side.

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66 80 29 98 20175476315067101
.....Pi-Space{ gravity and dark energy }..........
......31 left and right skew great circles of icosahedron and spinal nerves = 62.....
.......66 lines-of-relationship for 12 vertexes of icosahedron and/or the VE......

Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7 27 58500609309110083172176
..divide by 4 to renormalize time 3rd powering dimension as 24..
....Pi-Time 24 chords and /or 24 radii of Vector Equlibrium{ VE}......

Pi^ / 5 = 61.20 39 3 69 57056290652548262008687
....64 codons code for 61 amino-acids.....

Pi^6 / 6 = 160.23 15 3 22 6255073950503657394207
.....Pi^6 = 961.38 91 9 35 7530443703021944365242

Pi^7 / 7 = 431.47 04 6 11 1097029535917235615315
....Pi^7 - 3020.293227776792067514206493072

Pi^8 / 8 = 1186.06 63 7 70 088217508910719379883
.....Pi^8 = 9488.53 10 1 60 705740071285755039068

Pi^5 = 306.01 96 8 47 8528145326274131004344

Pi^4 97.40 90 9 10 34002437236440332688705

Pi^2 = 9.86 96 04 40 10893586188344909998762
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12/11/2017 11:50:55 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
I'm sorry Casten, I stated nothing about hyper-cubes, so not sure what you going on about.

I stated nothing about "simulations" so again I have no idea what your going on abput.

Yes I am referencing Fullers VE as the operating system of Universe and universe fundamentals involve physics and more specifically quantum physics.

However, let is be clear that no one hasclearly identified any speicfically polyhedron to any quantum particles via any scientific processs.

Fuller, myself and others offer only speculative considerations of polyhedra as quantum particles.

At 12/11/2017 7:59:41 AM, Casten wrote:
I'm afraid I don't know much about Synergetics, though I admit to a dimwitted fascination with hypercubes.

Do you believe the universe is a simulation, or are you using "operating system" to refer to physics?
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Gravitational SPACE ( + )
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Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
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Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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12/12/2017 1:43:41 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
Your diagrams just reminded me of hypercubes. It's not directly related. I'm easily distracted.

"Operating system" is commonly a computer term and I was merely curious if you believe the universe is a computer simulation. I think simulation theory is neat.

Fuller's work is actually pretty neat too, but it's all way over my head and my grasp of it is no better than any layman's. But it's interesting to see the applications.
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12/12/2017 3:05:51 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 12/12/2017 1:43:41 AM, Casten wrote:
Your diagrams just reminded me of hypercubes. It's not directly related. I'm easily distracted. :

Fullers VE is a truncated cube. Slice of 8 corners and 8 surface triangles appear.

"Operating system" is commonly a computer term and I was merely curious if you believe the universe is a computer simulation. I think simulation theory is neat. :

The VE transforms via Fullers jitterbug transformations, and specifically incorporates, the three and only three regular/symmetrical stable polyhedra ---3D spatial volume--- of Universe,

3-fold tetrahedron,
4-fold octahedron, and the,
5-fod icosahedron ergo his belief that all integral entities of Universe are some derivative of any of these three or combinations of two or more of these three.

Fuller's work is actually pretty neat too, but it's all way over my head and my grasp of it is no better than any layman's. But it's interesting to see the applications.:

Compared to complex algebraic, calculus etc type very abstract mathematics geometry is easier to grasp even for a 10 year old or blind person who can hold a model in their hands.
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12/12/2017 6:22:52 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
So spherical VE/cubo-octahedron has differrent surface area than Euclidean VE. Archimedes was first to discover this. So what is gained or lost when going from Euclidean to Riemman positive curvatures.

Below is just one example specific to a one chord of equilateral triangle.

Took radius { 0.57735026918963 } of circle , doubled it for diameter { 1.1547 }, * Pi = circumference { 3.6275970371001342524528143146728 } and,

we know that the arc as asscoiated equilateral triangle of chord value of 1, is one-third of the circles circumference ergo,

the length of the desired arc is1.2091990123667114174842714382243 and,

the final value I wanted is the differrence between chord value and arc value, to see how much gain or loss occurs.

0.20 91 99 01 23 66 71 14 174842714382243 is gain when going from Euclidean to prefect geodesic curvature
Here is site I went to get radius of the circle via length of triangle chord value a.

https://www.ajdesigner.com......
From that site we get the radius value of circle as 0.57735026918963
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Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
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12/13/2017 6:09:54 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Observed Time is that which we can quantise{ quanta } quantify and observe via sine~wave /\/\/ patterned frequencies ^v^v of occupied space.

Conceptual { lag rates of cognition } is another kind of mental association to observed time.

Occupied space eternally exists, so at best, any BBang is initial state/phase of occupied space transformation. Ive laid out geometric explanations for what occurs at heat death of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, at the following link.
http://www.debate.org...

The 87 > 73, 4-fold{ 25 } and 5-fold { 62 } primary or more planes of existence,

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

My scenario is based on a concept I read years ago, that the Universe via entropy will become one very large{ longest wave/frequency }, very flat{ low amplitude } photon.

This latter I associate with the 25 great circles/tori of the 4-fold VE/cubo-octahedron and represent as a flat vertical line |
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

On each side of the of the flatten | VE we have 31, or more, primary great circles/tori of the 5-fold icosahedron ergo O|O

Alternatively we can over lap of the two icosahedron ergo ( ( | ) ) and in this way, the flatten 4-fold VE is inside both sets of 31 primary great circles/tori.

This above is the simple version ergo the easiest scenario to envision. More complex scenarios involve more than one set of dual icosahedra. Ex in the above graphic we see a flatten equailateral triangle, ergo we could have scenario of four sets of dual icosahedron i.e. four on each side of the triangle.

More complex scenarios involve at much larger grid of triangles all of which has dual set of icosahedron for every triangle.

Again, I'm taking the time here to explain these scenarios in more detail but consider this the VE is infolding to arrive at on flattened set of 8 triangles as one, or as four flattened triangles,

We can say that from either of these configurations the VE has only one options that is to unfold from its contracted/collpased and flattened state/phase ergo unfolding = expansion.
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Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
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IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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12/19/2017 5:36:44 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
The closet reality comes to hyper-dimensions is gravity ( ) and dark energy )(.

Your hyper-cube inside is laid-out clearly in M Kakus book Hyper-space.

XYZ become abc and d is the volumetric diagonal at 45 degrees to ab and c cartesian 90 degree coordinates.

d is the line from corner 'o', of larger cube, to corner of smaller cube inside.

d is the hyper-dimensional vector ergo curled very small within 3D, not outside of 3D.

However, if you want to see d as perpendicular at 90 degrees one surface plane of a tetrahedron, then you only need to connect the opposing end points/corners of abc/XYZ, and this define the triangular plane that is at 90 degrees to vector hyper-dimension d.

If you take the 12, 45-degree-oriented surface digaonals of a cube you defined two tetrahedra and their 8 corners are congruent to 8 corners of cube;

'o' -1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 [ ]
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IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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12/21/2017 7:13:41 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Fuller states, that, the 24 circumferential chords and 24 radii of the Vector Equlibrium is closet we will ever come to knowing God.

The VE is defined by four bisecting hexagonal planes OOOO

Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7 27 58 5006 09309 1100 831 72 176

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

The 4-fold Vector Equilibrium and 5-fold icosahedron both have 12 vertexes that inturn have 66 lines-of-relationship.

n^2 - n divided by 2 = number of lines-of-relationship

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

I divide Pi^4 by 4 as a way of renormalixing time to 3D powering ergo volumetric cubing aka triangulating.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

At 12/10/2017 5:57:14 PM, ebuc wrote:
Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.
Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms
Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.
This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...
into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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12/22/2017 3:06:05 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
..."Cosmic Inherency: Four Kinds of Twoness:
> Spin twoness is additive.

>Duality twoness (concave-convex) is multiplicative.

>The spin twoness and duality twoness together comprise a third relationship twoness.

>The fourth twoness is comprised of the macro-micro (insideness and outsideness) twoness.".....

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

Synergetics four:
angles V........................................./\
inside-ness - outsideness............( )
convexity - concavity....................( )
axis of spin................................----(---)-----

At 12/21/2017 7:13:41 PM, ebuc wrote:
Fuller states, that, the 24 circumferential chords and 24 radii of the Vector Equlibrium is closet we will ever come to knowing God.

The VE is defined by four bisecting hexagonal planes OOOO

Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7 27 58 5006 09309 1100 831 72 176

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

The 4-fold Vector Equilibrium and 5-fold icosahedron both have 12 vertexes that inturn have 66 lines-of-relationship.

n^2 - n divided by 2 = number of lines-of-relationship

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

I divide Pi^4 by 4 as a way of renormalixing time to 3D powering ergo volumetric cubing aka triangulating.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...



At 12/10/2017 5:57:14 PM, ebuc wrote:
Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.
Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms
Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.
This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...
into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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12/27/2017 3:32:29 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
The VE/jitterbug turns-itself inside-out via invagination, beginging with a vertex followed by edges/chords.

No other hand-held toy model dos this plus all of the other exotic shapes and motion.

torque/twist,
spin,
expand-contract,
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Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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12/30/2017 5:09:43 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
https://robertlovespi.net...

..."The similar polyhedron below, however, features an overall "twist," causing it to qualify as a chiral polyhedron. In its mirror-image (not shown, unless you use a mirror to make it visible), the "twisting" goes in the opposite direction. The direction of rotation would be reversed as well, of course, in a reflected image.:...

The cubo-octahedron via Fullers Jitterbug twists/torques left and right ergo handed-ness,

This leads to left and right skew icosahedral subdivisions ergo 31 left and 31 right-skew great circles derivatives.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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12/31/2017 5:10:40 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 12/12/2017 1:43:41 AM, Casten wrote:
Your diagrams just reminded me of hypercubes. It's not directly related. I'm easily distracted.

"Operating system" is commonly a computer term and I was merely curious if you believe the universe is a computer simulation. I think simulation theory is neat.

Fuller's work is actually pretty neat too, but it's all way over my head and my grasp of it is no better than any layman's. But it's interesting to see the applications.

Id' avoid wasting your time by attempting a meaningful discussion with ebuc.

He's clearly poorly educated in many of the areas that he attempts to discuss, he waffles endlessly about Buckminster Fuller and is obsessed with picture of polyhedra, his posts are like those of a ten year old who just got a neat puzzle for christmas.

As you correctly mentioned (and he avoided discussing) an operating system is (these days, almost exclusively) computer software that provides services to applications and users.

That is all it is and an OS has no meaning apart from the symbol manipulator (Turing machine) on which it executes, the universe has nothing in common with a Turing machine and indeed the human mind shows not signs that it too is a Turing machine.

Ebuc says nothing of these topics because he is poorly educated yet like to fein erudition.
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12/31/2017 9:54:35 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 12/31/2017 5:10:40 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
Ebuc says nothing of these topics because he is poorly educated yet like to fein erudition.:

DH, I think your ego is hurting. Sad :--(

https://robertlovespi.net......

..."The similar polyhedron below, however, features an overall "twist," causing it to qualify as a chiral polyhedron. In its mirror-image (not shown, unless you use a mirror to make it visible), the "twisting" goes in the opposite direction. The direction of rotation would be reversed as well, of course, in a reflected image.:...

The cubo-octahedron via Fullers Jitterbug twists/torques left and right ergo handed-ness,

This leads to left and right skew icosahedral subdivisions ergo 31 left and 31 right-skew great circles derivatives.

Humans have 31 bilateral spinal nerves.

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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1/1/2018 5:14:51 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 12/31/2017 9:54:35 PM, ebuc wrote:
At 12/31/2017 5:10:40 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
Ebuc says nothing of these topics because he is poorly educated yet like to fein erudition.:

DH, I think your ego is hurting. Sad :--(

https://robertlovespi.net......

..."The similar polyhedron below, however, features an overall "twist," causing it to qualify as a chiral polyhedron. In its mirror-image (not shown, unless you use a mirror to make it visible), the "twisting" goes in the opposite direction. The direction of rotation would be reversed as well, of course, in a reflected image.:...

The cubo-octahedron via Fullers Jitterbug twists/torques left and right ergo handed-ness,

This leads to left and right skew icosahedral subdivisions ergo 31 left and 31 right-skew great circles derivatives.

Humans have 31 bilateral spinal nerves.

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

You're fond of numerology too I see, keep up the good work, at least your posts give me something to laugh at !
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1/2/2018 3:39:29 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 1/1/2018 5:14:51 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
You're fond of numerology too I see, keep up the good work, at least your posts give me something to laugh at !

There various kinds numerically logical studies. Classical numerology is not something Ive practiced as it is irrational, illogical and lacks common sense.

I do not walk in fear of daring to be naive and exploration of various possible numerically logical associations with mathematics and all sciences.

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

...humans have 31 bilateral spinal nerves ergo 62...

...5-fold icosahedron has 31 left and right -skew great circle planes ergo 62....

...66 lines-of-relationship with 12 points/nodes/vertexes/junctions....

....4 fold VE and 5-fold icosahedron both have 12 vertexes....

....62 codons code for 200 amino-acids.....
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Gravitational SPACE ( + )
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Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
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IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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1/3/2018 7:12:19 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 12/31/2017 5:10:40 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 12/12/2017 1:43:41 AM, Casten wrote:
Your diagrams just reminded me of hypercubes. It's not directly related. I'm easily distracted.

"Operating system" is commonly a computer term and I was merely curious if you believe the universe is a computer simulation. I think simulation theory is neat.

Fuller's work is actually pretty neat too, but it's all way over my head and my grasp of it is no better than any layman's. But it's interesting to see the applications.

Id' avoid wasting your time by attempting a meaningful discussion with ebuc.

He's clearly poorly educated in many of the areas that he attempts to discuss, he waffles endlessly about Buckminster Fuller and is obsessed with picture of polyhedra, his posts are like those of a ten year old who just got a neat puzzle for christmas.

As you correctly mentioned (and he avoided discussing) an operating system is (these days, almost exclusively) computer software that provides services to applications and users.

That is all it is and an OS has no meaning apart from the symbol manipulator (Turing machine) on which it executes, the universe has nothing in common with a Turing machine and indeed the human mind shows not signs that it too is a Turing machine.

Ebuc says nothing of these topics because he is poorly educated yet like to fein erudition.

Guess I was just trying to reach out and be nice. Though now that I think of it, he didn't seem to appreciate me reaching out the last time: http://www.debate.org... (I tried to provide some constructive criticism about the way he treats other users.)

But yeah, you're probably right about the futility. Sigh. On top of being obfuscating, he can have a nasty attitude, as well. Maybe I should just stop trying.
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1/3/2018 2:38:00 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
There various kinds numerically logical studies. Classical numerology is not something Ive practiced as it is irrational, illogical and lacks common sense.

7 axis sets derive the 87 - 73 primary great circles --ergo tori--- of Universe

....4-fold 3, 4, 6, 12 and 5 fold 6, 10 15 left-skew and 6, 10, and 15 right-skew...

.....Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7 27

I do not walk in fear of daring to be naive and exploraing various possible numerically logical associations with geometry and all sciences.

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

...humans have 31 bilateral spinal nerves ergo 62...

...5-fold icosahedron has 31 left and right -skew great circle planes ergo 62....

...66 lines-of-relationship with 12 points/nodes/vertexes/junctions....

....4 fold VE and 5-fold icosahedron both have 12 vertexes....
Observed Time is that which we can quantise{ quanta } quantify and observe via sine~wave /\/\/ patterned frequencies ^v^v of occupied space.

Conceptual { lag rates of cognition } is another kind of mental association to observed time.

Occupied space eternally exists, so at best, any BBang is initial state/phase of occupied space transformation. Ive laid out geometric explanations for what occurs at heat death of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, at the following link.
http://www.debate.org......

The 87 > 73, 4-fold{ 25 } and 5-fold { 62 } primary or more planes of existence,

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

My scenario is based on a concept I read years ago, that the Universe via entropy will become one very large{ longest wave/frequency }, very flat{ low amplitude } photon.

This latter I associate with the 25 great circles/tori of the 4-fold VE/cubo-octahedron and represent as a flat vertical line |
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

On each side of the of the flatten | VE we have 31, or more, primary great circles/tori of the 5-fold icosahedron ergo O|O

Alternatively we can over lap of the two icosahedron ergo ( ( | ) ) and in this way, the flatten 4-fold VE is inside both sets of 31 primary great circles/tori.

This above is the simple version ergo the easiest scenario to envision. More complex scenarios involve more than one set of dual icosahedra. Ex in the above graphic we see a flatten equailateral triangle, ergo we could have scenario of four sets of dual icosahedron i.e. four on each side of the triangle.

More complex scenarios involve at much larger grid of triangles all of which has dual set of icosahedron for every triangle.

Again, I'm taking the time here to explain these scenarios in more detail but consider this the VE is infolding to arrive at on flattened set of 8 triangles as one, or as four flattened triangles,

We can say that from either of these configurations the VE has only one options that is to unfold from its contracted/collpased and flattened state/phase ergo unfolding = expansion.

....62 codons code for 20 amino-acids.....
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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1/3/2018 4:37:56 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
ebuc, could you stop clicking "reply" on my posts when you're not actually replying to me? If you want to make a new post that isn't addressed to me specifically, just use "add post".

The site keeps sending me a notification that you've replied to me, when you really haven't.
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1/3/2018 5:08:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
It is said that the truth will set you free, however, the truth often causes others to throw ego based mental blockages in the pathways of though. Protect the metaphysical-1 mind/intellectual/conceptual ego at all costs.

There various kinds numerically logical studies. Classical numerology is not something Ive practiced as it is irrational, illogical and lacks common sense.

7 axis sets derive the 87 - 73 primary great circles --ergo tori--- of Universe

....4-fold 3, 4, 6, 12 and 5 fold 6, 10 15 left-skew and 6, 10, and 15 right-skew...

.....Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7 27

I do not walk in fear of daring to be naive and exploraing various possible numerically logical associations with geometry and all sciences.

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

...humans have 31 bilateral spinal nerves ergo 62...

...5-fold icosahedron has 31 left and right -skew great circle planes ergo 62....

...66 lines-of-relationship with 12 points/nodes/vertexes/junctions....

....4 fold VE and 5-fold icosahedron both have 12 vertexes....
Observed Time is that which we can quantise{ quanta } quantify and observe via sine~wave /\/\/ patterned frequencies ^v^v of occupied space.

Conceptual { lag rates of cognition } is another kind of mental association to observed time.

Occupied space eternally exists, so at best, any BBang is initial state/phase of occupied space transformation. Ive laid out geometric explanations for what occurs at heat death of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, at the following link.
http://www.debate.org.........

The 87 > 73, 4-fold{ 25 } and 5-fold { 62 } primary or more planes of existence,

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

My scenario is based on a concept I read years ago, that the Universe via entropy will become one very large{ longest wave/frequency }, very flat{ low amplitude } photon.

This latter I associate with the 25 great circles/tori of the 4-fold VE/cubo-octahedron and represent as a flat vertical line |
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

On each side of the of the flatten | VE we have 31, or more, primary great circles/tori of the 5-fold icosahedron ergo O|O

Alternatively we can over lap of the two icosahedron ergo ( ( | ) ) and in this way, the flatten 4-fold VE is inside both sets of 31 primary great circles/tori.

This above is the simple version ergo the easiest scenario to envision. More complex scenarios involve more than one set of dual icosahedra. Ex in the above graphic we see a flatten equailateral triangle, ergo we could have scenario of four sets of dual icosahedron i.e. four on each side of the triangle.

More complex scenarios involve at much larger grid of triangles all of which has dual set of icosahedron for every triangle.

Again, I'm taking the time here to explain these scenarios in more detail but consider this the VE is infolding to arrive at on flattened set of 8 triangles as one, or as four flattened triangles,

We can say that from either of these configurations the VE has only one options that is to unfold from its contracted/collpased and flattened state/phase ergo unfolding = expansion.

....62 codons code for 20 amino-acids.....
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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1/3/2018 5:44:08 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
... And he responds by doing it again. Oy.
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1/3/2018 6:01:03 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
The truth will set us free or trap us behind our ego.

There is no hand-held toy model ---that I'm aware of--- that transforms into more exotic shapes of space and provides basis for all occupied space phenomena of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.

Arthur Young went far with his four level-lines and the torus but his approach did not go far enough or the same way mine does.

Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.

Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms

Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.

This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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1/20/2018 4:00:17 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 1/3/2018 6:01:03 PM, ebuc wrote:
The truth will set us free or trap us behind our ego.

There is no hand-held toy model ---that I'm aware of--- that transforms into more exotic shapes of space and provides basis for all occupied space phenomena of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.

Arthur Young went far with his four level-lines and the torus but his approach did not go far enough or the same way mine does.

Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.

Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms

Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.

This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com......

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines

More horse sh!t? don't you ever get tired of everyone (yes it's everyone) either ignoring you or ridiculing you?
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1/20/2018 6:00:27 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
..."Box jellyfish have 24 eyes of four different types, and two of them -- the upper and lower lens eyes -- can form images and resemble the eyes of vertebrates like humans. The other eyes are more primitive. It was already known that box jellyfish's vision allows them to perform simpler tasks, like responding to light and avoiding obstacles."..

https://www.livescience.com...

The VE/jitterbug has;

24 circumferential chords --><-- that embrace and contain,

24 radii V, when the VE is constructed out of four hexagonal planes.
See link http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

There is no hand-held toy model ---that I'm aware of--- that transforms into more exotic shapes of space and provides basis for all occupied space phenomena of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.

Arthur Young went far with his four level-lines and the torus but his approach did not go far enough or the same way mine does.

Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.

Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms

Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.

This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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1/20/2018 7:23:18 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 1/20/2018 6:00:27 PM, ebuc wrote:
..."Box jellyfish have 24 eyes of four different types, and two of them -- the upper and lower lens eyes -- can form images and resemble the eyes of vertebrates like humans. The other eyes are more primitive. It was already known that box jellyfish's vision allows them to perform simpler tasks, like responding to light and avoiding obstacles."..

https://www.livescience.com...

The VE/jitterbug has;

24 circumferential chords --><-- that embrace and contain,

24 radii V, when the VE is constructed out of four hexagonal planes.
See link http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

There is no hand-held toy model ---that I'm aware of--- that transforms into more exotic shapes of space and provides basis for all occupied space phenomena of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.

Arthur Young went far with his four level-lines and the torus but his approach did not go far enough or the same way mine does.

Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.

Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms

Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.

This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines

More horse sh!t? don't you ever get tired of everyone (yes it's everyone) either ignoring you or ridiculing you?
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1/24/2018 5:53:52 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Harry lashes out with emotional nonsense because he has no hand-held toy that exibits cosmic blueprint for al quadra-pedic animals and that includes humans two arms, nor,

has he any hand-held model that then will transform to have basic bluieprint for fish,

and the list goes on that the jittebug appears to have basic blueprints for ---ex black hole info inside exibited on event horizon surface--,

Harry has nothing valid to offer and that is why he lashes out lack a 10 year old whose mind cannot get beyond one, two or more repetitive sentences and the ignoring of obvious documented facts/truths.

Harry, as wells as many others around here have emotion levels of a 10 year old. Sad lack of moral and intellectual integrity :--(

Fuller believe he found natures geometric coodinates as expressed in Euclidean format with some conceptual spinning of those primary, 2ndary etc axis to infer great circle geodesic spinning as time and or gravity.

What he did not go into much was the torus. What ive done is to show that each great circles geodesic is a torus. SO in this way Ive kinda of included Fuller and Arthur Youngs approach.

To be clear, my four levels/lines begin with 0{ zero } and that is key for having all prime numbers ---except 2 and 3--- appear on the same level/line, or in a hexagon on two radii seperated by one non-prime line.

..."Box jellyfish have 24 eyes of four different types, and two of them -- the upper and lower lens eyes -- can form images and resemble the eyes of vertebrates like humans. The other eyes are more primitive. It was already known that box jellyfish's vision allows them to perform simpler tasks, like responding to light and avoiding obstacles."..

https://www.livescience.com...

The VE/jitterbug has;

24 circumferential chords --><-- that embrace and contain,

24 radii V, when the VE is constructed out of four hexagonal planes.
See link http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

There is no hand-held toy model ---that I'm aware of--- that transforms into more exotic shapes of space and provides basis for all occupied space phenomena of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.

Arthur Young went far with his four level-lines and the torus but his approach did not go far enough or the same way mine does.

Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.

Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms

Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.

This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines
" U "niverse > Universe > Universe I -verse < you-verse we-verse > them-verse
Gravitational SPACE ( + )
Dark Energy SPACE )-(
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v
Mind/Intellect 12--3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold
Biological *8* --bilateral four's
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrhaedron
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1/27/2018 6:43:32 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 1/24/2018 5:53:52 PM, ebuc wrote:
Harry lashes out with emotional nonsense because he has no hand-held toy that exibits cosmic blueprint for al quadra-pedic animals and that includes humans two arms, nor,

has he any hand-held model that then will transform to have basic bluieprint for fish,

and the list goes on that the jittebug appears to have basic blueprints for ---ex black hole info inside exibited on event horizon surface--,

Harry has nothing valid to offer and that is why he lashes out lack a 10 year old whose mind cannot get beyond one, two or more repetitive sentences and the ignoring of obvious documented facts/truths.

Harry, as wells as many others around here have emotion levels of a 10 year old. Sad lack of moral and intellectual integrity :--(

Fuller believe he found natures geometric coodinates as expressed in Euclidean format with some conceptual spinning of those primary, 2ndary etc axis to infer great circle geodesic spinning as time and or gravity.

What he did not go into much was the torus. What ive done is to show that each great circles geodesic is a torus. SO in this way Ive kinda of included Fuller and Arthur Youngs approach.

To be clear, my four levels/lines begin with 0{ zero } and that is key for having all prime numbers ---except 2 and 3--- appear on the same level/line, or in a hexagon on two radii seperated by one non-prime line.

..."Box jellyfish have 24 eyes of four different types, and two of them -- the upper and lower lens eyes -- can form images and resemble the eyes of vertebrates like humans. The other eyes are more primitive. It was already known that box jellyfish's vision allows them to perform simpler tasks, like responding to light and avoiding obstacles."..

https://www.livescience.com...

The VE/jitterbug has;

24 circumferential chords --><-- that embrace and contain,

24 radii V, when the VE is constructed out of four hexagonal planes.
See link http://www.rwgrayprojects.com...

There is no hand-held toy model ---that I'm aware of--- that transforms into more exotic shapes of space and provides basis for all occupied space phenomena of our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.

Arthur Young went far with his four level-lines and the torus but his approach did not go far enough or the same way mine does.

Quadra-pedic ex two arms and two feet.

Cetacceans have side arms and tail flukes parrallel to side arms

Fish have side fins and tails fins that are perpendicular to the side fins.

This latter two are key part of the cubo-octahedron, 8 triangles ---Fullers operating system of Universe--- and its transformations,
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

into quadra-pedic configurations of;

humans,
cetacceans,
fish. and the double sine~wave pattern of electro magnetic radiation{ photon } ^v^v /\/\/\/.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com.........

The above are not shown with Fullers graphics, yet can be done with a hand held model of the VE/jitterbug.

This first texticonic is parrallel configuration that all cetacceans have
^^
vv

The next is perpendicular and what fish have
^
-------
v

and the EMRadiation can only be partly presented

^-v- the perpendicular is the horizontal lines

More horse sh!t? don't you ever get tired of everyone (yes it's everyone) either ignoring you or ridiculing you?