Who Should I Vote For

At 4/12/2012 5:47:58 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:42:25 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:39:02 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

PRO-individual mandate

This is conservative? Also, he's not Pro it. He has vehemently opposed it throughout this entire campaign.

CON-immigration

He is Con illegal immigration. No rational person is Con immigration.

No, your fellow conservatives made a commercial of a stereotypical asian woman pronouncing words incorrectly and saying "we come hea...we take you jobs" with a smile. And it ended with a message that we must slow down legal immigration before they steal more jobs from Americans.

Lol. I just watched it and it is not anti-immigration. What it is trying to portray is that "Debbiespenditnow" is spending too much money in some arbitrary state and this is therefore weakening the economy and the state and making it possible for foreign competition to come in (not that this is a bad thing).

Also, the women NEVER said ANYTHING about taking jobs or jobs in general.

At 4/12/2012 5:43:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:41:30 PM, Contra wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:39:02 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

PRO-individual mandate

This is conservative? Also, he's not Pro it. He has vehemently opposed it throughout this entire campaign.

Campaign and 2 years ago are two different realms to Romney then.

Your point being? He is running on campaign positions, which he seeks to implement when in office.

CON-immigration

He is Con illegal immigration. No rational person is Con immigration.

Free Soil Party.

1."The Free Soil Party was a short-lived political party in the United States active in the 1848 and 1852 presidential elections, and in some state elections."

Didn't know Mitt was that old.

2. It did not oppose immigration.

At 4/12/2012 5:43:55 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:42:25 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:39:02 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

PRO-individual mandate

This is conservative? Also, he's not Pro it. He has vehemently opposed it throughout this entire campaign.

CON-immigration

He is Con illegal immigration. No rational person is Con immigration.

No, your fellow conservatives made a commercial of a stereotypical asian woman pronouncing words incorrectly and saying "we come hea...we take you jobs" with a smile. And it ended with a message that we must slow down legal immigration before they steal more jobs from Americans.

Its stuff like this that makes me angry when people like Detectableninja say that Democrats and Republicans are on the same level

But you are.

At 4/12/2012 5:50:23 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:43:55 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:42:25 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:39:02 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

PRO-individual mandate

This is conservative? Also, he's not Pro it. He has vehemently opposed it throughout this entire campaign.

CON-immigration

He is Con illegal immigration. No rational person is Con immigration.

No, your fellow conservatives made a commercial of a stereotypical asian woman pronouncing words incorrectly and saying "we come hea...we take you jobs" with a smile. And it ended with a message that we must slow down legal immigration before they steal more jobs from Americans.

Its stuff like this that makes me angry when people like Detectableninja say that Democrats and Republicans are on the same level

But you are.

*they....

No they're not. Democrats on average are closer to the center than republicans...and Democrats have a unique quality called tolerance. They are the reason for many of the positive social changes in America that the Republicans have been forced to agree with now.

Racists are never or at least rarely Liberal Democrats. Sexists are never/rarely liberal democrats. Homophobes are never/rarely democrats. Republicans are the axis of social persecution and religious-governmental fusion.

They are not the same thing and you know it. Democrats are better in every way.

In fact, if you've ever watched that video by Jonathan Haidt, it proves that Liberals are generally more mature and more educated than conservatives.

Why do you ignore all this evidence.

At 4/12/2012 5:50:23 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:43:55 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:42:25 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:39:02 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

PRO-individual mandate

This is conservative? Also, he's not Pro it. He has vehemently opposed it throughout this entire campaign.

CON-immigration

He is Con illegal immigration. No rational person is Con immigration.

No, your fellow conservatives made a commercial of a stereotypical asian woman pronouncing words incorrectly and saying "we come hea...we take you jobs" with a smile. And it ended with a message that we must slow down legal immigration before they steal more jobs from Americans.

Its stuff like this that makes me angry when people like Detectableninja say that Democrats and Republicans are on the same level

But you are.

*they....

No they're not. Democrats on average are closer to the center than republicans...and Democrats have a unique quality called tolerance. They are the reason for many of the positive social changes in America that the Republicans have been forced to agree with now.

Racists are never or at least rarely Liberal Democrats. Sexists are never/rarely liberal democrats. Homophobes are never/rarely democrats. Republicans are the axis of social persecution and religious-governmental fusion.

They are not the same thing and you know it. Democrats are better in every way.

In fact, if you've ever watched that video by Jonathan Haidt, it proves that Liberals are generally more mature and more educated than conservatives.

Why do you ignore all this evidence.

At 4/12/2012 5:37:54 PM, Contra wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:30:04 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:14:57 PM, Contra wrote:
If you want another George W. Bush with no foreign policy experience, vote Romney.

Obama had no foreign policy experience when he came into office and yet you liberals believe he managed things quite nicely.

Yes

If you want a severe conservative, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a hardcore liar, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a person who has corporate experience, but that doesn't really matter for a President, vote Romney.

Of course it does. Having corporate experience helps a President mend his polices to that of the private sector, which is far more important than the public sector.

Bush 41. Bush 43. I found out today that Bush II was born in Connecticut. I was surprised.

If you want big government, vote Romney.

*Cough*Obama*Cough*

Let's mandate government social morality. Big government is that too my friend.

If you want higher deficits, vote Romney.

Under Obama's term, there have been $6.5 billion of debt increase. All the other Presidents combined have $6 billion.

Debt went from $10 trillion to $15.5 trillion.

If you want a hypocrite, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a moderate who has actually had multiple successes, vote Obama.

I lol'd and choked on my soda.

Clear choice dude.

I know.

At 4/12/2012 5:52:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:37:54 PM, Contra wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:30:04 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:14:57 PM, Contra wrote:
If you want another George W. Bush with no foreign policy experience, vote Romney.

Obama had no foreign policy experience when he came into office and yet you liberals believe he managed things quite nicely.

Yes

No reason Mitt cannot do the same (assuming that Obama's foreign policy was good).

If you want a severe conservative, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a hardcore liar, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a person who has corporate experience, but that doesn't really matter for a President, vote Romney.

Of course it does. Having corporate experience helps a President mend his polices to that of the private sector, which is far more important than the public sector.

Bush 41. Bush 43. I found out today that Bush II was born in Connecticut. I was surprised.

Point?

If you want big government, vote Romney.

*Cough*Obama*Cough*

Let's mandate government social morality. Big government is that too my friend.

Mitt does not want to mandate social morality, unlike people such as Rick Perry and Bachmann.

If you want higher deficits, vote Romney.

Under Obama's term, there have been $6.5 billion of debt increase. All the other Presidents combined have $6 billion.

Debt went from $10 trillion to $15.5 trillion.

Term isn't over yet. At the current rate, it is projected to be about $6.5 billion.

If you want a hypocrite, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a moderate who has actually had multiple successes, vote Obama.

I lol'd and choked on my soda.

Clear choice dude.

I know.

At 4/12/2012 5:51:50 PM, OberHerr wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:50:23 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:43:55 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:42:25 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:39:02 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

PRO-individual mandate

This is conservative? Also, he's not Pro it. He has vehemently opposed it throughout this entire campaign.

CON-immigration

He is Con illegal immigration. No rational person is Con immigration.

No, your fellow conservatives made a commercial of a stereotypical asian woman pronouncing words incorrectly and saying "we come hea...we take you jobs" with a smile. And it ended with a message that we must slow down legal immigration before they steal more jobs from Americans.

Its stuff like this that makes me angry when people like Detectableninja say that Democrats and Republicans are on the same level

But you are.

*they....

No they're not. Democrats on average are closer to the center than republicans...and Democrats have a unique quality called tolerance. They are the reason for many of the positive social changes in America that the Republicans have been forced to agree with now.

Racists are never or at least rarely Liberal Democrats. Sexists are never/rarely liberal democrats. Homophobes are never/rarely democrats. Republicans are the axis of social persecution and religious-governmental fusion.

They are not the same thing and you know it. Democrats are better in every way.

In fact, if you've ever watched that video by Jonathan Haidt, it proves that Liberals are generally more mature and more educated than conservatives.

Why do you ignore all this evidence.

Someone, sig this.

Seriously ike? Really?

Democrats must be Gods above those foolish peasant Republicans, now aren't they.
Superior in ever way!

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:32:12 PM, 16kadams wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:14:57 PM, Contra wrote:
If you want another George W. Bush with no foreign policy experience, vote Romney.

If you want a severe conservative, vote Romney.

He's moderate.

PRO-life
PRO-border fence
PRO-wars overseas
PRO-tax cuts
PRO-deregulation
PRO-welfare cuts
PRO-big business
PRO-Wall Street greed
PRO-individual mandate
PRO-gun rights
PRO-free trade
PRO-denying gay marriage
CON-denying campaign finance reform
CON-immigration

He is a massive conservative, your typical GOP candidate.

If you want a hardcore liar, vote Romney.

If you want a person who has corporate experience, but that doesn't really matter for a President, vote Romney.

If you want big government, vote Romney.

If you want higher deficits, vote Romney.

If you want a hypocrite, vote Romney.

If you want a moderate who has actually had multiple successes, vote Obama.

Clear choice dude.

At 4/12/2012 5:50:23 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:43:55 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:42:25 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:39:02 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:35:32 PM, Contra wrote:

PRO-individual mandate

This is conservative? Also, he's not Pro it. He has vehemently opposed it throughout this entire campaign.

CON-immigration

He is Con illegal immigration. No rational person is Con immigration.

No, your fellow conservatives made a commercial of a stereotypical asian woman pronouncing words incorrectly and saying "we come hea...we take you jobs" with a smile. And it ended with a message that we must slow down legal immigration before they steal more jobs from Americans.

Its stuff like this that makes me angry when people like Detectableninja say that Democrats and Republicans are on the same level

But you are.

*they....

No they're not. Democrats on average are closer to the center than republicans...and Democrats have a unique quality called tolerance. They are the reason for many of the positive social changes in America that the Republicans have been forced to agree with now.

Racists are never or at least rarely Liberal Democrats. Sexists are never/rarely liberal democrats. Homophobes are never/rarely democrats. Republicans are the axis of social persecution and religious-governmental fusion.

They are not the same thing and you know it. Democrats are better in every way.

In fact, if you've ever watched that video by Jonathan Haidt, it proves that Liberals are generally more mature and more educated than conservatives.

Why do you ignore all this evidence.

At 4/12/2012 5:51:50 PM, OberHerr wrote:

Seriously ike? Really?

Democrats must be Gods above those foolish peasant Republicans, now aren't they.
Superior in ever way!

At 4/12/2012 5:58:21 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:51:50 PM, OberHerr wrote:

Seriously ike? Really?

Democrats must be Gods above those foolish peasant Republicans, now aren't they.
Superior in ever way!

I love how no one actually produces COUNTER EVIDENCE. They just reject the conclusion and frolic around the issue like they've actually negated anything.

At 4/12/2012 5:57:58 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

There is nary evidence.

Behaviorally, both parties are nearly identical, especially after balanced. Both parties slander the other, make glittering generalizations, and think they now what's best for people, especially women.

All I heard from you was rhetoric.

At 4/12/2012 5:58:21 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:51:50 PM, OberHerr wrote:

Seriously ike? Really?

Democrats must be Gods above those foolish peasant Republicans, now aren't they.
Superior in ever way!

I love how no one actually produces COUNTER EVIDENCE. They just reject the conclusion and frolic around the issue like they've actually negated anything.

At 4/12/2012 6:01:06 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Jesse Ventura / Alex Jones 2012

At 4/12/2012 6:00:40 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:57:58 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

There is nary evidence.

Behaviorally, both parties are nearly identical, especially after balanced. Both parties slander the other, make glittering generalizations, and think they now what's best for people, especially women.

All I heard from you was rhetoric.

You're not being honest. I notice how you didn't actually dispute that Democrats are the origin of positive social change but rather tossed it in the trash as meaningless and went on to muddy the distinction....

At 4/12/2012 6:04:54 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

At 4/12/2012 6:00:40 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:57:58 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

There is nary evidence.

Behaviorally, both parties are nearly identical, especially after balanced. Both parties slander the other, make glittering generalizations, and think they now what's best for people, especially women.

All I heard from you was rhetoric.

You're not being honest. I notice how you didn't actually dispute that Democrats are the origin of positive social change but rather tossed it in the trash as meaningless and went on to muddy the distinction....

They are meaningless, Ike, and you know it.

Republicans were the ones championing for the abolition of slavery. That means nothing.

History shows that the parties each ended up catering to different crowds to desperately hold on to their power. Do you really think that the Democratic party actually cares about anything more than themselves? Do you really think that the Republican party cares about anything more than themselves?

At 4/12/2012 5:19:42 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:14:57 PM, Contra wrote:
If you want another George W. Bush with no foreign policy experience, vote Romney.

He's not

If you want a severe conservative, vote Romney.

He's the least conservative of all the candidates.

If you want a hardcore liar, vote Romney.

Obama

"At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized–at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do–it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds."

Previous to that, Obama pleaded for "civility" in a press conference in November of 2010 saying,

I do believe there is hope for civility. I do believe there's hope for progress. And that's because I believe in the resiliency of a nation that's bounced back from much worse than what we're going through right now — a nation that's overcome war and depression, that has been made more perfect in our struggle for individual rights and individual freedoms.

While Obama pretends that he's interested in "respectful" political discourse we've seen a parade of Democrats indulging every manner of disrespectful political speech against Tea Partiers and Republicans. But look:

•Vice President Biden saying that Republicans and Tea Partiers are "barbarians."

•Teamsters President Hoffa Says Republicans are "sons a bitches" that should be "taken out."

•Democrat Andre Carson Says Tea Partiers and Republicans want to start "lynching African Americans."
•Democrat Maxine Waters says Tea Partiers can "go straight to hell."

•Vice President Biden calls conservatives "terrorists."

If you want a person who has corporate experience, but that doesn't really matter for a President, vote Romney.

If you want big government, vote Romney.

If you want higher deficits, vote Romney.

If you want a hypocrite, vote Romney.

Obama

If you want a moderate who has actually had multiple successes, vote Obama.

What successes? Besides, Romney is a moderate.

Clear choice dude.

At 4/12/2012 6:15:01 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
The only rational choice (seeing how Paul has no chance) is Obama.

But if insanity, radical theology, and fascism are your thing vote Republican.

At 4/12/2012 6:15:01 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
The only rational choice (seeing how Paul has no chance) is Obama.

But if insanity, radical theology, and fascism are your thing vote Republican.

At 4/12/2012 6:18:24 PM, lewis20 wrote:

At 4/12/2012 6:15:01 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
The only rational choice (seeing how Paul has no chance) is Obama.

But if insanity, radical theology, and fascism are your thing vote Republican.

To be fair Obama doubled down on the fascism that was George Bush.

At 4/12/2012 6:21:58 PM, 000ike wrote:

At 4/12/2012 6:18:24 PM, lewis20 wrote:

At 4/12/2012 6:15:01 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
The only rational choice (seeing how Paul has no chance) is Obama.

But if insanity, radical theology, and fascism are your thing vote Republican.

To be fair Obama doubled down on the fascism that was George Bush.

no, he lightened the Patriot Act by requiring a court order for wiretaps, and did not start any new wars that Bush may have harped on.

At 4/12/2012 5:30:04 PM, Lordknukle wrote:

At 4/12/2012 5:14:57 PM, Contra wrote:
If you want another George W. Bush with no foreign policy experience, vote Romney.

Obama had no foreign policy experience when he came into office and yet you liberals believe he managed things quite nicely.

If you want a severe conservative, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a hardcore liar, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a person who has corporate experience, but that doesn't really matter for a President, vote Romney.

Of course it does. Having corporate experience helps a President mend his polices to that of the private sector, which is far more important than the public sector.

If you want big government, vote Romney.

*Cough*Obama*Cough*

If you want higher deficits, vote Romney.

Under Obama's term, there have been $6.5 billion of debt increase. All the other Presidents combined have $6 billion.

If you want a hypocrite, vote Romney.

I lol'd.

If you want a moderate who has actually had multiple successes, vote Obama.

I lol'd and choked on my soda.

Clear choice dude.

I know.

At 4/12/2012 6:15:01 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
The only rational choice (seeing how Paul has no chance) is Obama.

But if insanity, radical theology, and fascism are your thing vote Republican.

At 4/12/2012 6:15:01 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
The only rational choice (seeing how Paul has no chance) is no one.

But if insanity, radical theology, and fascism are your thing vote.