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Ragnar_Rahl
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5/3/2012 1:23:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2012 4:06:51 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 5/1/2012 3:37:34 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
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B) Their ignorance makes them better voters than those who know something. I do not believe there is a single matter, whether related to government or not, which should not be voted on by every single living thing in the world. The voting should be mandatory.
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I'll debate you on this issue.

It is quite obviously true. We are all part of a greater conciousness. We just aren't aware of it. Therefore, it is the job of the conciousness to unify itself and discover our true will.
DanT is part of the rogue conciousness which denies this self-evident truth and seeks to bring chaos to the conciousness through independence.

Let's put it on a global ballot initiative to ban dihydrogen monoxide tomorrow. It can poison people you know.
:: At 2/4/2013 9:03:34 PM, charleslb wrote:
: : You view all humans as incapable of consent. I wouldn't say that it is groundless to call that infantilizing and dehumanizing.
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: I would say that it's entirely groundless.
Stephen_Hawkins
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5/3/2012 1:25:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/3/2012 1:23:36 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 5/1/2012 4:06:51 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 5/1/2012 3:37:34 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
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B) Their ignorance makes them better voters than those who know something. I do not believe there is a single matter, whether related to government or not, which should not be voted on by every single living thing in the world. The voting should be mandatory.
"

I'll debate you on this issue.

It is quite obviously true. We are all part of a greater conciousness. We just aren't aware of it. Therefore, it is the job of the conciousness to unify itself and discover our true will.
DanT is part of the rogue conciousness which denies this self-evident truth and seeks to bring chaos to the conciousness through independence.

Let's put it on a global ballot initiative to ban dihydrogen monoxide tomorrow. It can poison people you know.

Bah. Dihydrogen is a lot smaller issue than Hydrogen in the air.
Ameriman
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5/3/2012 3:21:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Question 13

A. I waste my time making (or taking) tests consisting of strawmen of my opponent's views.

B. I have a life.

C. None of the above.
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darkkermit
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5/3/2012 3:59:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2012 5:04:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 5/2/2012 5:01:42 PM, Reasoning wrote:
I'm more interested in the BNP than the Tories, tbh.

That's a fascist party.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

Their argument is self-refuting anyways. How far do we go back when we determine who an "immigrant" is? Most Britons are descendants of Norman invaders, and almost all are descendants of Saxon and Roman invaders. I doubt that there are very many people with true British blood left.

You should realize by now that he is against immigration because he is against racial diversity.
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At 12/28/2012 2:54:39 PM DetectableNinja wrote:
DanT (Dan - tee), v: to excessively define every word, usually to semantical disprove an argument.
RoyLatham
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5/4/2012 12:42:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
The test is biased by using wording that makes the socialist alternative always sound more appealing:

A. Citizens should unite to restore peace and justice to society.
B. We should kill all the widows and orphans and let greed run rampant.
C. Neither of the above.

To make the bias complete, the (C) choice is scored closer to (A) than to (B).

Here are some examples. The first question is:

A. Health care should be made available according to need rather than ability to pay.
B. Users should pay for their own health treatment, not the taxpayers.
C. Neither of the above.

Here is another wording for that question that biases it the other way.

A. Health care should be rationed by the government.
B. People should be allowed to choose their health care.
C. Neither of the above.

The second question:

A. The state should fund high quality education so that all children have the opportunity to reach their full potential.
B. If parents' want their children to receive superior education they should pay for it themselves: if they can't afford it; that's just too bad.
C. Neither of the above.

A. Education should be limited to what the government provides.
B. People should be allowed to choose the education they believe best.
C. Neither of the above.

In the revised questionnaire, A scores 0, B scores 3, and C scores 2.

It's not easy to design an unbiased poll. By wording the questions differently, you can flip a high percentage of those polled.

Some people will read the questions as code. Seeing the bias they will vote for killing the widows and orphans. I sometimes do that.
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Apollo.11
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5/4/2012 12:52:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/3/2012 3:21:57 PM, Ameriman wrote:
Question 13

A. I waste my time making (or taking) tests consisting of strawmen of my opponent's views.

B. I have a life.

C. None of the above.

Written as you waste your time demeaning others while you yourself fail to add anything substantial to the conversion and are incapable of forming your own ideas. But please continue spreading right wing propaganda. I often read it to comfort myself in knowing that there will always be people who are intellectually inferior.
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