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mattrodstrom
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11/4/2009 5:40:29 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
I voted for Obama b/c he seemed more intelligent and put together than J.Mccain. Though I generally am closer to Mccain (the socially moderate republican) in policy issues, I voted for Obama b/c I believe a President, first and foremost, has to be smart enough to know what to do, and what not to do, and Obama seemed like he was so.

Though I have been disappointed in Obama's display of partisanship generally since he was elected (I'm not claiming it was one sided), the disappointment on this front has really set in when he began campaigning for, and trying to manage democrats political ambitions (ny govenor patterson).

The role of the Pres. is not that of national party head and strategist. It is to be head of the country, and to intelligently take in all opinions and consider what ought be done. Instead he has acted like no more than the national Dem. head.
Perhaps I have taken most offense, b/c I live in NY and actually think Patterson has done a decent job in a bad situation, and was planning on voting for him, and that I thought that he had no reason whatsoever to weigh in on the NY mayoral race; but also I guess I've taken notice b/c these actions fit with the rest of his presidency so far.
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11/4/2009 7:21:59 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
Obama's display of partisanship?

30 Senate Republicans voted against an amendment made by Al Franken that would deny defense contracts to companies that ask employees to sign away the right to sue, after a woman was gang-raped on the job and was unable to sue her employer.

That is partisanship at its finest.
Clockwork
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11/4/2009 7:28:19 PM
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It's probably best to ignore any promises to nonpartisanship that are bounded around during campaign season. Considering the political structure of America today, it would be impossible for Obama (or McCain) to live up to the messianic expectations that the public seems to imagine that Obama is capable of fulfilling.
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11/4/2009 7:53:00 PM
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At 11/4/2009 7:28:19 PM, Clockwork wrote:
It's probably best to ignore any promises to nonpartisanship that are bounded around during campaign season. Considering the political structure of America today, it would be impossible for Obama (or McCain) to live up to the messianic expectations that the public seems to imagine that Obama is capable of fulfilling.

What your saying is probably true, but why would 30 Senate Republicans vote against an anti-gang rape bill proposed by a freshmen senator that has no attachment to Obama? We reach the conclusion of extreme partisanship.
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11/4/2009 7:53:53 PM
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I think you are slightly wrong in your view of the role of the president. I agree that he is the head of the government (and state). But he has the additional role as a leader of his party.
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11/4/2009 7:56:32 PM
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At 11/4/2009 7:53:00 PM, Registered_Trademark wrote:
What your saying is probably true, but why would 30 Senate Republicans vote against an anti-gang rape bill proposed by a freshmen senator that has no attachment to Obama? We reach the conclusion of extreme partisanship.

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11/4/2009 7:59:56 PM
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At 11/4/2009 7:53:53 PM, JBlake wrote:
I think you are slightly wrong in your view of the role of the president. I agree that he is the head of the government (and state). But he has the additional role as a leader of his party.

I assumed that the party president's role was leading the party. :)

But, honestly, when it comes down to it, should the President give preference to his role in his party, or to his role as the head of state?
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11/5/2009 7:24:56 AM
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At 11/4/2009 5:40:29 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
I voted for Obama b/c he seemed more intelligent and put together than J.Mccain. Though I generally am closer to Mccain (the socially moderate republican) in policy issues, I voted for Obama b/c I believe a President, first and foremost, has to be smart enough to know what to do, and what not to do, and Obama seemed like he was so.

Though I have been disappointed in Obama's display of partisanship generally since he was elected (I'm not claiming it was one sided), the disappointment on this front has really set in when he began campaigning for, and trying to manage democrats political ambitions (ny govenor patterson).

The role of the Pres. is not that of national party head and strategist. It is to be head of the country, and to intelligently take in all opinions and consider what ought be done. Instead he has acted like no more than the national Dem. head.
Perhaps I have taken most offense, b/c I live in NY and actually think Patterson has done a decent job in a bad situation, and was planning on voting for him, and that I thought that he had no reason whatsoever to weigh in on the NY mayoral race; but also I guess I've taken notice b/c these actions fit with the rest of his presidency so far.

Then you just made the wrong choice, simple as that.
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11/5/2009 10:08:08 AM
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At 11/4/2009 7:56:32 PM, Nags wrote:
At 11/4/2009 7:53:00 PM, Registered_Trademark wrote:
What your saying is probably true, but why would 30 Senate Republicans vote against an anti-gang rape bill proposed by a freshmen senator that has no attachment to Obama? We reach the conclusion of extreme partisanship.

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11/6/2009 11:39:47 AM
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At 11/4/2009 5:40:29 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
I voted for Obama b/c he seemed more intelligent and put together than J.Mccain. Though I generally am closer to Mccain (the socially moderate republican) in policy issues, I voted for Obama b/c I believe a President, first and foremost, has to be smart enough to know what to do, and what not to do, and Obama seemed like he was so.

Though I have been disappointed in Obama's display of partisanship generally since he was elected (I'm not claiming it was one sided), the disappointment on this front has really set in when he began campaigning for, and trying to manage democrats political ambitions (ny govenor patterson).

The role of the Pres. is not that of national party head and strategist. It is to be head of the country, and to intelligently take in all opinions and consider what ought be done. Instead he has acted like no more than the national Dem. head.
Perhaps I have taken most offense, b/c I live in NY and actually think Patterson has done a decent job in a bad situation, and was planning on voting for him, and that I thought that he had no reason whatsoever to weigh in on the NY mayoral race; but also I guess I've taken notice b/c these actions fit with the rest of his presidency so far.

Why do you think he is intelligent?
Luck is something you make, not something that just happens!

America is a Constitution-based federal republic with a strong democratic tradition.