The Fort Hood massacre

At 11/6/2009 9:21:30 AM, comoncents wrote:
War is hard, even harder when the cause is not justified but anything more then a "what if".

I was in the army for 4 years, and was the medical personnel's that dealt with people going and coming.
There is no coming together for a cause that our own common sense cannot fathom, (as soldiers).
Ignorant people will try to down play this by saying that he was Muslim, that he was crazy, and that he was not an American.
But he was an American, he was a Major in the United States Army, and he was a psychiatrist that dealt with everyone coming back for theater, hurt by everything going on over there.

And if you do not know, a Major in the Army is a guy who has got it all together. To get that position in the army is extremely hard and only for the strong-minded.

You may never understand what really happened, you might brush it off as a crazy person being crazy, you may never realize the pain that comes from this, but I do.

I am sorry for him, for our troops, for his family, and for the family of all of the victims.
It is a sad day that our country, no, our president, will never really realize the truth of what is going on in the Military.

Pull our troops out!
Stop the nonsense!
Admit we were wrong, and correct!
Pull our troops out!!!

At 11/6/2009 10:01:30 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:

At 11/6/2009 9:21:30 AM, comoncents wrote:
War is hard, even harder when the cause is not justified but anything more then a "what if".

I was in the army for 4 years, and was the medical personnel's that dealt with people going and coming.
There is no coming together for a cause that our own common sense cannot fathom, (as soldiers).
Ignorant people will try to down play this by saying that he was Muslim, that he was crazy, and that he was not an American.
But he was an American, he was a Major in the United States Army, and he was a psychiatrist that dealt with everyone coming back for theater, hurt by everything going on over there.

And if you do not know, a Major in the Army is a guy who has got it all together. To get that position in the army is extremely hard and only for the strong-minded.

You may never understand what really happened, you might brush it off as a crazy person being crazy, you may never realize the pain that comes from this, but I do.

I am sorry for him, for our troops, for his family, and for the family of all of the victims.
It is a sad day that our country, no, our president, will never really realize the truth of what is going on in the Military.

Pull our troops out!
Stop the nonsense!
Admit we were wrong, and correct!
Pull our troops out!!!

Commoncents, I have to disagree.
Regardless of whether or not you, I, he, or muslims think that we ought to be in Iraq and Afghanistan, killing random people is not a solution.
Perhaps he could have gotten a discharge.
Perhaps he could have made a big stink in the media.
Perhaps he could even tried have led some kind of revolution to oust those wrongdoers at the top.
All of these actions would have been more justifiable than just shooting random people.
Yes he shot military people. Essentially in the back. When they trusted him.
The fact that they're military doesn't mean they're free game, they deserve rights just as do any others.
In fact if he may very well have been able to talk to those he killed, and get them to understand and support his point of view.

I too feel bad for him, being a psychiatrist in that field cannot be an easy thing to do. Being a Muslim who objects to the current conflict, while serving in the armed forces cannot be an easy thing to do. Serving in the forces is in itself *NOT* an easy thing to do.
Killing random people is and it serves no purpose whatsoever.
I think they ought to hang him.

Commoncents, I have to disagree.
Regardless of whether or not you, I, he, or muslims think that we ought to be in Iraq and Afghanistan, killing random people is not a solution.

Perhaps he could have gotten a discharge.

Perhaps he could have made a big stink in the media.

Perhaps he could even tried have led some kind of revolution to oust those wrongdoers at the top.

All of these actions would have been more justifiable than just shooting random people.

Yes he shot military people. Essentially in the back. When they trusted him.
The fact that they're military doesn't mean they're free game, they deserve rights just as do any others.
In fact if he may very well have been able to talk to those he killed, and get them to understand and support his point of view.

I too feel bad for him, being a psychiatrist in that field cannot be an easy thing to do. Being a Muslim who objects to the current conflict, while serving in the armed forces cannot be an easy thing to do. Serving in the forces is in itself an easy thing to do.
Killing random people is and it serves no purpose whatsoever.
I think they ought to hang him.

At 11/6/2009 10:06:39 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
Correction:
"Serving in the forces is in itself *NOT*an easy thing to do."

At 11/14/2009 10:09:35 PM, wonderwoman wrote:
pulling out the troops and stopping support is exactly what phucked us over in the first place.

Charlie Wilson's War enough said