Conservative island

I've noticed that there has been a dramatic drop in the number of conservatives on this site in the past few months.
The main active ones such as diabloschaosbreaker, labrat, (the guy with the darth vader picture, i forgot his name), etc have all left.
It seems there are very few left.
It seems as if the majority of the site are moderate, independate/mized views, left side.
I was wondering if there was a specific reason for this?

At 1/25/2010 6:59:07 AM, philosphical wrote:
I've noticed that there has been a dramatic drop in the number of conservatives on this site in the past few months.
The main active ones such as diabloschaosbreaker, labrat, (the guy with the darth vader picture, i forgot his name), etc have all left.
It seems there are very few left.
It seems as if the majority of the site are moderate, independate/mized views, left side.
I was wondering if there was a specific reason for this?

The liberal left winged people here swaying them!
Here's looking at you Volkov!
(JK)

I really do not know the exact reason.
I just think that it is hard to express being conservative openly, with out people looking in the beliefs and analyzing for themselves.

I remember not too long ago, this site was filled to the brim equally with both sides!

Now, its becoming dull... :(

I have to ask why this is called "Conservative Island"....

You do have a few conservatives floating around. In particular, comon, yourself (philosphical), wjm (he's libertartian, but acts like a conservative socially), Cody could be considered a social conservative, um.. yeah.

I guess maybe the number has dropped. The main, er, "opposition" I suppose to liberals on the site, tends to be the various libertarians that float around, which is probably bad considering that liberals and libertarians can find more in common than liberals and conservatives.

I guess they were chased away?

At 1/25/2010 11:00:55 AM, Volkov wrote:
I guess maybe the number has dropped. The main, er, "opposition" I suppose to liberals on the site, tends to be the various libertarians that float around, which is probably bad considering that liberals and libertarians can find more in common than liberals and conservatives.

Wat

At 1/25/2010 2:09:17 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:

At 1/25/2010 11:00:55 AM, Volkov wrote:
I guess maybe the number has dropped. The main, er, "opposition" I suppose to liberals on the site, tends to be the various libertarians that float around, which is probably bad considering that liberals and libertarians can find more in common than liberals and conservatives.

Wat

Liberals - Pro civil liberties, Pro Welfare state

Conservatives - Pro Traditional values, Pro fiscal conservatism

Libertarians - Pro Civil liberties, pro abolish stuff.

The only difference is conservatives aren't anywhere near as slash and cut as libertarians, whereas most liberals are socially in tune with Libertarians. We only have economic qualms.

One thing I have noticed is that many of the conservatives here tend to shift over to libertarianism.

At 1/25/2010 2:19:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
One thing I have noticed is that many of the conservatives here tend to shift over to libertarianism.

Yes. I used to be conservative, but progressed to libertarianism. So have mongoose and wjmelements.

At 1/25/2010 2:14:51 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:

At 1/25/2010 2:09:17 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:

At 1/25/2010 11:00:55 AM, Volkov wrote:
I guess maybe the number has dropped. The main, er, "opposition" I suppose to liberals on the site, tends to be the various libertarians that float around, which is probably bad considering that liberals and libertarians can find more in common than liberals and conservatives.

Wat

Liberals - Pro civil liberties, Pro Welfare state

Conservatives - Pro Traditional values, Pro fiscal conservatism

Libertarians - Pro Civil liberties, pro abolish stuff.

The only difference is conservatives aren't anywhere near as slash and cut as libertarians, whereas most liberals are socially in tune with Libertarians. We only have economic qualms.

Socially in tune with Libertarians?

Human Rights Commissions?

Campus speech codes?

Hell, wasn't it the Progressives who went nuts for Prohibition?

Economics is a huge issue btw. It's easier to buy a hooker on the black market than it is to make a profit when there isn't any market but a black one. And note that trade IS a social behavior.

In most cases, which one will be closer to the libertarian depends on which liberal and which conservative. "Ideal" conservatism is about equidistant from it with "ideal" modern liberalism.