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tmhustler
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10/20/2009 12:14:57 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
did jesus commit suicide? suppose the real question is if you could prevent yourself from dieing but chose not to is it suicide? or if you knew that by doing something (preaching you were gods son) it would result in your death and did it anyway would you be committing suicide?
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tkubok
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10/20/2009 10:12:26 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
If i stand in the middle of the railway, knowing that i will eventualy be run over by a train, is that suicide? Yes.

So in my opinion, yes, Jesus did commit suicide.
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10/20/2009 2:43:50 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2009 10:12:26 AM, tkubok wrote:
If i stand in the middle of the railway, knowing that i will eventualy be run over by a train, is that suicide? Yes.

So in my opinion, yes, Jesus did commit suicide.

Not quite. He actually sacrificed himself which is different than what we would call suicide.
i.e.

Inside a bank there's a hostage situation. The robbers are getting panicked and they bring up there gun to shoot at a pregnant woman. A man nearby jumps in front of her and takes the bullet himself and just then the police come in and shoot the robbers. Yes, the man knowingly jumped in front of a bullet he knew would probably kill him but he did it to safe a life. This is sacrifice, not suicide.

The same applies to Jesus accept he sacrificed himself for everybody.
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10/20/2009 2:53:01 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2009 2:49:38 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Unless he crucified himself, it's not suicide. he even said "God WTF?"

lol
There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics"
-Mark Twain

"If at first you don't succeed, redefine success"

"Therefore love moderately. Long love doth so.
Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow."
- William Shakespeare

"There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons, and the word 'council' must be restored to its original meaning. Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will be made by one man."
- Adolf Hitler
studentathletechristian8
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10/20/2009 3:03:31 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2009 2:53:01 PM, crackofdawn_Jr wrote:
At 10/20/2009 2:49:38 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Unless he crucified himself, it's not suicide. he even said "God WTF?"

lol

Jesus sacrificed Himself to save our sins. I can't believe you would think Jesus did that as suicide.
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crackofdawn_Jr
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10/20/2009 3:28:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2009 3:03:31 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
At 10/20/2009 2:53:01 PM, crackofdawn_Jr wrote:
At 10/20/2009 2:49:38 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Unless he crucified himself, it's not suicide. he even said "God WTF?"

lol

Jesus sacrificed Himself to save our sins. I can't believe you would think Jesus did that as suicide.

He didn't, do you understand what Panda is saying. He's saying that IF he crucified himself it could be counted as suicide and he even complained to God about getting killed.
There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics"
-Mark Twain

"If at first you don't succeed, redefine success"

"Therefore love moderately. Long love doth so.
Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow."
- William Shakespeare

"There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons, and the word 'council' must be restored to its original meaning. Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will be made by one man."
- Adolf Hitler
leet4A1
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10/20/2009 5:50:43 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2009 3:03:31 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
At 10/20/2009 2:53:01 PM, crackofdawn_Jr wrote:
At 10/20/2009 2:49:38 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Unless he crucified himself, it's not suicide. he even said "God WTF?"

lol

Jesus sacrificed Himself to save our sins.

So it's been alleged...
"Let me tell you the truth. The truth is, 'what is'. And 'what should be' is a fantasy, a terrible terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago. The 'what should be' never did exist, but people keep trying to live up to it. There is no 'what should be,' there is only what is."

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10/20/2009 5:56:41 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2009 5:50:43 PM, leet4A1 wrote:
At 10/20/2009 3:03:31 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
At 10/20/2009 2:53:01 PM, crackofdawn_Jr wrote:
At 10/20/2009 2:49:38 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Unless he crucified himself, it's not suicide. he even said "God WTF?"

lol

Jesus sacrificed Himself to save our sins.

So it's been alleged...

Yep, and I choose to believe that was why he died. If that wasn't, it could very well be considered suicide.
There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics"
-Mark Twain

"If at first you don't succeed, redefine success"

"Therefore love moderately. Long love doth so.
Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow."
- William Shakespeare

"There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons, and the word 'council' must be restored to its original meaning. Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will be made by one man."
- Adolf Hitler
tmhustler
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10/20/2009 11:32:42 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Unless he crucified himself, it's not suicide. he even said "God WTF?" this seams like assisted suicide like weaving a gun in front of a cop and saying you will shoot them
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