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10/24/2009 7:14:38 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago Well, in religion class, my classmates and I had a debate over the allowance of homosexuals to become bishops. Since everyone in the class is a Catholic bandwagoner, they were trying to ram down my throat that it is immoral for gays to do anything with the Church, especially in becoming a high position. However, I disagree. I think there is nothing wrong with a gay bishop. How does sexual orientation affect the way a bishop spreads the Word or helps with the Church? If the bishop acts on his thoughts of homosexuality, such as dating another man in public, and that's his prerogative, then fine. Just don't mess with little kids or try to support gay marriage (I know I disagree with gay marriage, while most people on this site support it) throughout the sermons, and I think gay bishops are acceptable. Any comments?
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10/24/2009 7:27:30 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago Being gay doesn't impair you doing anything that's not sexual. I honestly don't know why Catholics get so hung up on Homosexuality. I honestly dont' care what the church does, but I would say Gay Bishops should be allowed. I mean, there are probably closet gays out there who already have high positions.
As for marriage, I believe marriage is a religious thing, but insofar as that, marriages shouldn't be legally binding and a legal course should be taken where everyone has a union. Marriage is just pomp anyway. |
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10/24/2009 7:31:46 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago At 10/24/2009 7:27:30 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote: Agreed completely, panda. Liberals are good for two things: turning you back to the Republican party and providing a source for jokes. |
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10/24/2009 7:55:43 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago At 10/24/2009 7:31:46 AM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:At 10/24/2009 7:27:30 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote: http://adagiago.files.wordpress.com... |
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10/24/2009 7:59:47 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago You all know where i stand on this topic, but from a neutral stand point,
I think that it would be mildly hypocritical to have a gay bishop, especially when the religion does not support or condone gays in any way, and instead persecute it. In that sense, no bishops should not be gay. Does it effect their sense of judgement? Debateable, but if it is against their religion, then no, they should not be a bishop/ Carpe Dieum- Seize the day |
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10/24/2009 8:26:53 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago At 10/24/2009 7:59:47 AM, philosphical wrote: I would have to agree with philosophical on this one. However, I'd say "mildly hypocritical" is a bit of an understatement. Look: You are a complete moron. That's OK, so are most people. Accept yourself as you are. Deal with it. Then get lost. : : : : : : i forgot to flush you and now you want to stink me with your sh!t : : : : : : get a life : : : : Yes, even your feces are smarter than you. : : lol monkey is typing DDO: The PREMIUM in online intellectual conversation. |
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10/24/2009 8:31:27 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago Would depend on the denomination since Christians have no absolute consensus. In the case of Roman Catholicism however, your bed is made as it were, the only relevant opinion on the matter is whoever the current Pope is.
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10/24/2009 8:42:26 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago At 10/24/2009 7:59:47 AM, philosphical wrote: Wrong. You're probably not Catholic. Catholics don't persecute gays, and their ideology on this issue has always been hate the sin, not the sinner. In other words, it's not wrong to be gay, but it's wrong to act on it (i.e. engage in gay sex). Since bishops aren't having sex anyway via their vows of celibacy, then they're not acting on gay impulses, and therefore not sinning in this way. So, they're doing nothing wrong, and your close-mindedness on this issue shines right on through :) Additionally, how would being gay affect one's JUDGMENT? Please explain this to me, and how it is at all relevant to this job description. Moreover, in choosing to spread God's word rather than act on what comes biologically and emotionally natural to some (homosexuality), then you should be PRAISING this individual for choosing the moral high ground and God over sin, should you not? No. You're concerned with punishing him. All ignorance and oppression stems from fear. Stop being scared of gay people, Phil, unless you've got something to hide. |
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10/24/2009 8:44:37 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago At 10/24/2009 8:31:27 AM, Puck wrote: True. The Catholics just need a real pope to keep them straight (no pun intended). Can we have Innocent III back? ;) Look: You are a complete moron. That's OK, so are most people. Accept yourself as you are. Deal with it. Then get lost. : : : : : : i forgot to flush you and now you want to stink me with your sh!t : : : : : : get a life : : : : Yes, even your feces are smarter than you. : : lol monkey is typing DDO: The PREMIUM in online intellectual conversation. |
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10/24/2009 8:58:48 AM Posted: 3 weeks ago Catholics don't persecute gays, and their ideology on this issue has always been hate the sin, not the sinner. Yes, you see, but that is all relevant to what is considered sin, and in most religions, being gay is considered a sin. In other words, it's not wrong to be gay, but it's wrong to act on it (i.e. engage in gay sex). Since bishops aren't having sex anyway via their vows of celibacy, then they're not acting on gay impulses, and therefore not sinning in this way. So, they're doing nothing wrong, and your close-mindedness on this issue shines right on through :) Wrong. If an individual is gay, then they obviously support gay rights. And if not, would find that to be extremely odd. The church does not support gay rights, therefor, by the gay individual supporting gay rights, they are going against what they're religion stands for. Additionally, how would being gay affect one's JUDGMENT? Judgement in accordance to the church. Like I said, if there views are detrimental to the church, then they should not be a bishop. I am not arguing gay right in any sense at all. I am arguing that gays should not be allowed to put their judgement on others, when their very orientation goes against what they are supposed to be teaching. Moreover, in choosing to spread God's word rather than act on what comes biologically and emotionally natural to some (homosexuality), then you should be PRAISING this individual for choosing the moral high ground and God over sin, should you not? No. You're concerned with punishing him. Choosing to spread god's word, should mean that you are choosing to act upon gods word as well. Not allowing a gay individual to be a bishop is not a punishment in any way shape or form. In fact, it is praising him, for having chose the light of christ. The church would only want that person to act on all the doctrines the church would have to offer, thus banning him from bishopric. All ignorance and oppression stems from fear. Stop being scared of gay people, Phil, unless you've got something to hide. Oh dang you caught me! theLwerd is right, this whole time I've been against gays being church leaders, I've really been trying to secretly tell you my little secret I have kept in for so long! Every time I have argued against gay rights, has really been me hiding me fear! Talk about ignorance... Carpe Dieum- Seize the day |