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Mirza
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10/28/2009 3:03:14 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Since some people here indirectly challenged me to debate this, I'd now like to debate it on the forums, and later as an official debate.

I challenge anybody to find any scientific error or contradiction in the Qur'an. If you find one, and I have no rebuttals, I'll admit that the Qur'an is not the word of God. I'll respond to each of your claims tomorrow.

[Qur'an 4:82] Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah [God], they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy [i.e. inconsistencies, errors].
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10/28/2009 3:13:03 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Answering-islam.com? Alright. I have read much on that site and it is worthless. I'm sure you just skimmed one page for 10 sec. and then became confident that the Qur'an has inconsistencies. How about reading a few verses yourself and wrote them down here, one by one?

Since you did not write anything yourself, but provided a link to a site like that, I'd give you a link too:

http://www.answering-christianity.com...
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10/28/2009 3:17:14 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 10/28/2009 3:07:27 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Also, rebuttal to your embryo claim: http://www.answering-islam.org...
You do know that those who claim that the Qur'an does not describe embryology in a correct way are usually Christian theologists, not scientists? I bet you don't know much about the development process of a fetus, yet you come up with those sites and believe you are bringing clear evidence.

Scientists who read the Qur'an convert to Islam in most cases. The Qur'an describes embryology better than any book today, simply because it told about it 14 centuries ago, not 10-20 years ago.
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10/28/2009 3:25:33 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 10/28/2009 3:23:21 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I'm an Atheist. Try and disprove my scripture. Oh wait, all of mine is modern ;)
Your scripture is "On the Origin of Species", and is not an established scientific fact, actually not a fact at all, but a theory. I have yet to see a book called "The Fact of Evolution".

This discussion is not about Atheism, but about inconsistencies in the Qur'an. Leave other subjects out of this discussion please.
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10/28/2009 3:30:32 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Fine, some interesting ones:

- Allah, Adam, and the Angels: There are a great number of problems and inconsistencies between the several accounts of Adam's creation, Allah's command to prostrate before Adam, Satans refusal, etc. [http://www.answering-islam.org...]

- What will be the food for the people in Hell?: The food for the people in Hell will be only "Dhari" [Sura 88:6], or only foul pus from the washing of wounds [S. 69:36], or will they also get to eat from the tree of Zaqqum [S. 37:66]? Together, these verses constitute three contradictions. [http://www.answering-islam.org...]

- Contradicting creations stories (All wrong by the way)

Could it be from earth?

11:61 It is He Who hath produced you from the earth

Or dry clay (Arabic Salsaal)?

15:26,28,33 We created man from sounding clay
17:61 ... Thou didst create from clay
32:7 He began the creation of man from clay

Did we come from nothing?


19:67 We created him before out of nothing

No, we did not!

52:35 Were they created of nothing?

Did we come from mud?

23:12 We created man from a product of wet earth (loam) (Pickthall)
23:12 Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay)
38:71 I am about to create a mortal out of mire

Or water?

25:54 It is He Who has created man from water (see also 21:30, 24:45)

Could it be dust?

3:59 He created (Jesus) out of dust
30:20 He created you from dust
35:11 Allah did create you from dust ....

Perhaps we arose from the dead or from one person?

30:19 It is He who brings out the living from the dead
39:6 He created you from a single Person (see also 4:1)
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10/28/2009 3:31:11 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 10/28/2009 3:25:33 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 10/28/2009 3:23:21 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I'm an Atheist. Try and disprove my scripture. Oh wait, all of mine is modern ;)
Your scripture is "On the Origin of Species", and is not an established scientific fact, actually not a fact at all, but a theory. I have yet to see a book called "The Fact of Evolution".

This discussion is not about Atheism, but about inconsistencies in the Qur'an. Leave other subjects out of this discussion please.

Small changes occur in species over time, no? This is micro evolution. Macro evolution is micro evolution over time. I'm pretty sure 5 year olds cans understand out.

Besides, a lot of things in science are theories, including gravity. Just because something is a theory doesn't mean it's automatically wrong.

Besides, qu'ran, nice story, but where's the proof that a tribe of thousands wandered the Sinai desert for 40 years? Archaeological evidence should be there but it isn't.
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10/28/2009 3:36:21 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 10/28/2009 3:25:33 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 10/28/2009 3:23:21 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I'm an Atheist. Try and disprove my scripture. Oh wait, all of mine is modern ;)
Your scripture is "On the Origin of Species", and is not an established scientific fact, actually not a fact at all, but a theory. I have yet to see a book called "The Fact of Evolution".

This discussion is not about Atheism, but about inconsistencies in the Qur'an. Leave other subjects out of this discussion please.

First, there is no Atheist scripture. That is an absurd notion. Second, the term Theory ought not be taken so lightly. The truth is, evolution is a fact. We have and can observe indirectly in the long term, and directly in the short term (in many cases). To call it "just" a theory outlines your ignorance on the matter.
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