At 4/19/2012 5:00:47 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:At 4/18/2012 6:02:36 PM, Ren wrote:OK...
Prove it.The way that it works is that that particles move in such a way, that they create electromagnetic gravitational fields around themselves.This is nonsense: wtf is an electromagnetic gravitational field?
Nah-ah-ahhh. xD: http://jnaudin.free.fr...
However, the energy they express in moving and creating these fields is also what manifests strong nuclear force, so it is essentially extremely intense.Strong Nuclear force is independent of gravity, Weak Nuclear force, and electromagnetism. Actually, gravity is pretty much negligible at the quantum level.
?!?!?! Wow. So much to approach here.
Alright, first, I'm pretty sure I said nothing about gravity, electromagnetism, and other types of weak nuclear force, and instead indicated that electromagnetic gravitational fields are what manifest strong nuclear force. "Gravity" is not synonymous with "gravitational field." Gravitational fields result from interactions with the force that we term gravity in the macrocosmic sense, but they are also what manifest the interaction between matter in black holes and subatomic particles, although they don't abide by classical laws, such as superposition.
To say that gravity is weak at the subatomic level is just outright hysterical. Although matter that we interact with macrocosmically is incredibly larger than subatomic particles, we still have no experience whatsoever with objects approaching a critical mass. Subatomic particles, however, are very frequently, if not always, travelling at speeds proportional, and even comparable, to the terminal velocity of all matter. This is likely why although we're so much larger, we interact with weak nuclear force exclusively, while strong nuclear force, which is the same force intensely magnified, manifests completely separate laws at the subatomic level.
Therefore, in reality, they manifest as actual objects, which we know as subatomic particles like protons, neutrons, and electrons. As they're essentially energy fields, and result from constant high energy and high speed movement, they are essentially undulating at all times. The nature of this undulation is what determines how it interacts with other such clusters around it -- electrons.They exhibit a wave-particle duality.
No, while orbiting atoms, they do not.
While traveling through a medium (say, a copper wire), they may as they pass from atom to atom.
Not all particles exhibit particle-wave duality, and certainly not at all times (in constant flux).
Orbiting them at light speed in several layers, they are balls of energy; particles the size of a Planck Unit.NO WAY.
1) NOTHING with mass can travel at c.
Sigh, we covered that. I mean, it's true, so I'll pass on calling it pedantic, but really. :\
2) A Plank Unit of length is orders of magnitude SMALLER than an electron. Plan Unit of length = approx 1.6 x 10e-35 m and an electron is 2.8 x 10e-15.
Reduced Planck [E][T] 1.0546 E-27 gm-cm2/sec
Constant 1.381 E-34 cm
e Electron charge [Q] 1.381 E-34 cm
A Plank Unit is not a physical measurement. It is a "packet of energy."
Surely, you knew that. :\
The nature of their orbit determines how they interact with other atoms. These interactions manifest their own energy fields through what we understood to be strong nuclear force, and this manifests as reality.No way. Electrons are NOT nuclear particles ERGO they do not experience the Strong Nuclear force; however, nucleons do: protons, neutrons, and their anti particles.
That should have been "these atoms."
The atoms manifest reality, the atoms have strong nuclear force.
I already indicated that strong nuclear force results from the movement of quarks. Because electromagnetism and gravity relates to interaction between matter in the nuclear sense, subatomic particles need other carriers other than themselves to cause the movement of quarks to initiate behavior through the conversion of energy. These carriers are gluons.
Electrons are subatomic particles themselves (upon which the strong nuclear force is acting), so they couldn't possibly manifest it.
In fact, it doesn't act upon them, because they actually exist in their most reduced form a step above quarks, at the subatomic level.
This reality, however, is not actually moving. It is some terminal macro-manifestation, where we are no longer undulating and creating energy fields, but instead, interacting with purpose and entirely through analogy.WTF does that even mean?
Now, going back to all these moving particles (atoms, electrons, protons, neutrons, hardons, quarks, etc.), they're in fact moving at such a high speed, that it is impossible by physical limitation to detect them at any given position while they are in that position.That is a contradiction and these particles are detected in specific positions ALL the time. If you are looking at a CRT screen as I am, you'll be experiencing it.
Lol, they're detected at specific positions, but not in real time. A CRT screen traps photons.
Therefore, it is impossible to determine where they will go; only where they just were.Just like anything in the macro world that is not stationary...so what?
That is false. In the macrocosmic universe, it is very possible to determine movement, trajectory, position, etc, all at the same time, because they are operating at the same level and are confined to the same laws of physics as the instruments detecting them.
Thus, we have video cameras.
Therefore, it's not that those particles "aren't actually here nor there, but might be everywhere."The probability distribution doesn't say that they can be everywhere, only within a specific field.
That is not a probability distribution, that is a matrix, and that is why I made that distinction.
Surely, you realize that a probability distribution and a matrix are two entirely different things. :\