Thunderfoot has presented so many videos debunking creationists, but look at him fumble in his discussion with Ray Comfort. I see what he is doing wrong, I think. Here is the first video, see what you think.
How would you do it differently? Creationism must be addressed in a public format; science is too important to allow pseudoscientists to misrepresent information. Comfort is not as bad as Kent Hovind, but he is running close.
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8/3/2009 10:34:44 PM Posted: 3 months ago |
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8/3/2009 10:55:02 PM Posted: 3 months ago I haven't heard of either of these guys before.
NOTE- I am agnostic. But, this was a very one-sided debate. RayComfort easily won the debate. Thunderfoot's only arguments were "IDK... IDK... and IDK." RayComfort at least put up arguments. Thunderfoot didn't look like he has ever argued in person with an actual human being, he struggled to speak at times and stuggled to make eye contact. RayComfort was a good speaker and presented his points well. This wasn't a good debate anyway. The debates here on DDO in the Religion or Science forums are better than the YouTube debate. "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." ~Stephen F. Roberts |
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8/3/2009 11:03:44 PM Posted: 3 months ago If we got some good people on here to somehow do a Youtube debate (maybe splice some video files together), I'm sure it would get more hits than there are people on Earth (though, I do exaggerate a little bit).
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8/3/2009 11:10:46 PM Posted: 3 months ago And, it cut off my second paragraph, I just noticed...
Anyhow, I agree that it was extremely one-sided. I looked at a couple of other videos of Thunderfoot's, and compared to how he usually comes off (which still isn't TOO much better), this was quite a sad day for him. Cody Franklin Director of the Central Intelligence Agency http://www.Debate.org... - "Fascism is on the rise in the United States." http://www.Debate.org... - "The following statement is true. The preceding statement is false." Read, vote, comment. |
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8/4/2009 9:37:28 AM Posted: 3 months ago I think he may have taken a couple of hits right before the interview. I think he did it in an effort to dumb himself down so that they could be on the same level.
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8/4/2009 11:18:59 AM Posted: 3 months ago "I don't know" is a valid mother f*cking answer.
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8/4/2009 1:39:36 PM Posted: 3 months ago Science & religion just don't mix. It's not that you can't have both, it's just that they cover completely different aspects of humanity.
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8/4/2009 1:48:53 PM Posted: 3 months ago At 8/4/2009 1:39:36 PM, tBoonePickens wrote: Actually science is a worldview seeking to explain the universe. It is a religion. "It is not the business of the law to make anyone good or reverent or moral or clean or upright." -Murray Rothbard Please comment: http://ddofans.com... SIGN UP FOR COLONIAL AMERICA MAFIA: http://www.debate.org... |
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8/4/2009 1:51:33 PM Posted: 3 months ago Religion- a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe http://dictionary.reference.com...
Science- knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study http://dictionary.reference.com... So, Science is just a religion concerning what is already deduced. "It is not the business of the law to make anyone good or reverent or moral or clean or upright." -Murray Rothbard Please comment: http://ddofans.com... SIGN UP FOR COLONIAL AMERICA MAFIA: http://www.debate.org... |
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8/4/2009 2:13:21 PM Posted: 3 months ago At 8/4/2009 1:51:33 PM, wjmelements wrote: Science: a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws. Religion: a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. Generally speaking (and word of mouth is what defines words), religion concerns metaphysics, morality, and the supernatural. Science touches none of those areas. |