So I'm writing a paper right now for my independent study at my university (the semester long study is on psychedelics and religion) - as I was writing my thoughts on Huston Smith's "Cleansing the Doors of Perception" in my paper, I re-read this quote and it brought back some thoughts...
Huston Smith, "Even people who recognize the limitations of science assume that it can handle the corporeal world, but it cannot- not in the world's fullness. The world comes to us clothed in sound and colors and fragrances, which in textbook science have no right to be there, for the electromagnetic waves that underlie those qualities are as close to them as science can get."
I then ran across this while attempting some research online about the problem:
Thomas Huxley, "How it is that anything so remarkable as a state of consciousness comes about as a result of irritating nervous tissue, is just as unaccountable as the appearance of the Djinn, when Aladdin rubbed his lamp."
I'm wondering what your guys' beliefs are on the mind-body issue - why we have qualitative phenomenal experience.
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10/18/2009 4:54:04 PM Posted: 1 month ago What college do you go to?
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10/18/2009 5:10:20 PM Posted: 1 month ago Northern Illinois University
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10/18/2009 5:28:45 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/18/2009 5:10:20 PM, Vi_Veri wrote: Great university, my got his masters there. There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics" -Mark Twain "If at first you don't succeed, redefine success" "Therefore love moderately. Long love doth so. Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow." - William Shakespeare "There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons, and the word 'council' must be restored to its original meaning. Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will be made by one man." - Adolf Hitler |
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10/18/2009 5:30:42 PM Posted: 1 month ago Simple, consciousness is just an emergent phenomenon due to the physical interactions in the brain.
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10/18/2009 5:51:34 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/18/2009 5:30:42 PM, TheSkeptic wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org... Not answering the right question. |
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10/18/2009 5:57:31 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/18/2009 5:51:34 PM, Vi_Veri wrote:At 10/18/2009 5:30:42 PM, TheSkeptic wrote: Ah, I just saw the title and assumed it was a broad question about consciousness. Either way, this is simply a more specific question - my response is that qualia is not non-physical nor irreducible. I believe things such as p-zombies, which Chalmers likes to employ in favor of the hard problem, can't exist. Ultimately, there is no hard problem of consciousness at all. |
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10/18/2009 5:58:26 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/18/2009 5:28:45 PM, crackofdawn_Jr wrote:At 10/18/2009 5:10:20 PM, Vi_Veri wrote: There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics" -Mark Twain "If at first you don't succeed, redefine success" "Therefore love moderately. Long love doth so. Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow." - William Shakespeare "There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons, and the word 'council' must be restored to its original meaning. Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will be made by one man." - Adolf Hitler |
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10/18/2009 6:11:34 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/18/2009 4:04:56 PM, Vi_Veri wrote: Remember the issue I told you I had about you-know-what in the summer? This is it. But anyway, whatever. |
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10/19/2009 12:18:16 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/18/2009 6:11:34 PM, theLwerd wrote: Remember the issue I told you I had about you-know-what in the summer? This is it. But anyway, whatever.: Sorry, I didn't think this applied. |