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11/5/2009 1:02:03 AM Posted: 2 weeks ago
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11/5/2009 1:09:04 AM Posted: 2 weeks ago An interesting first comment:
"Great logic! If the guy's genes predispose him to violence then let him out earlier so he can get busy killing people again." |
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11/5/2009 1:10:50 AM Posted: 2 weeks ago lol
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11/5/2009 11:47:30 AM Posted: 2 weeks ago Im sorta mixed about this.
Although i do agree to some degree that there is a genetic disposition to violence, its hard to tell who has this genetic abnormality. This opens the floodgates so that any criminal can simply claim that their "Genes made me do it" and get a free/shorter pass. Furthermore, as the first guys comment claims, if there is a genetic disposition to violence, clearly the person will repeat the crime. |
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11/5/2009 2:11:48 PM Posted: 2 weeks ago This is retarded. If they have a gene which gives them the predisposition to kill, then they are a danger society, and thus should be sent to prison and possibly rehabilitated.
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11/5/2009 7:52:33 PM Posted: 2 weeks ago At 11/5/2009 2:11:48 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote: Arguing they can be rehabilitated is against genetic determinism however. :P |
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11/5/2009 7:56:25 PM Posted: 2 weeks ago At 11/5/2009 7:52:33 PM, Puck wrote: No. Genetic determinism only determines the traits and behaviors, which can in turn be changed by external forces - like environmental factors or external forces like rehabilitation. "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." ~Stephen F. Roberts |
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11/5/2009 9:29:21 PM Posted: 2 weeks ago At 11/5/2009 7:56:25 PM, Nags wrote:At 11/5/2009 7:52:33 PM, Puck wrote: Your parents determine the genes you will have. Genetic determinism is the idea that genes are a close 1:1 with behaviour. Rehabilitation is the admittance that environmental factors may interplay with genetic factors to result in given behaviours, which is at odds with a court decision that accepts genetic determinism and concludes ownership of ones actions is lessened via certain genes. |
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11/6/2009 10:07:50 AM Posted: 2 weeks ago This is just phrenology mark 2.
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11/6/2009 11:41:08 AM Posted: 2 weeks ago mmmm...
I think that genetic predisposition makes perfect sense as to observing who might be more violent. But this doesn't mean that we ought let them get off easier. At the end of the day, the best justification for putting people away isn't to punish them for doing something morally wrong, but rather to stop them and deter others from doing such things. Though I think I might agree to allowing them out early if they agree to be castrated, such that they can no longer provide such excuses for future generations. |