At 4/23/2012 2:27:42 AM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 4/23/2012 2:24:43 AM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 4/23/2012 2:20:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
Oooh, ooh, I've got an idea!
Why not dole out affirmative action points based on socioeconomics only?
...because race is inseparable from economics. This is why we call it "socioeconomics."
The reason that, for example, blacks and Latinos make less than whites is because of the racist structures that white people have set up. That, again, is the reason for economic disparity. The two are inseparable, get it?
To be clear, let's say you have a black family that makes 40K a year, and a white family that makes 40K a year, and a black family that makes 100K a year, and a white family that makes 100K a year.
Clearly the black family that makes 40K a year is more disadvantaged than the white family that makes 40K a year.
Clearly the black family that makes 100K a year has worked much harder to get there than the white family that 100K a year. The black family had to fight much harder against the white family's structures.
What about a black family that makes 60k versus a white family that makes 40k?
I'm not saying that race is a non-issue, only that affirmative action should predominantly be focused on total class mobility instead of predominantly racial lines.
Granted, my definition of affirmative action is mainly about government scholarship and loan programs. I don't think entrance quotas themselves are productive. Instead, scholarship and loan programs should give minorities an equal chance against a majority that is generally wealthier.
So, it's not that you get into school because you're black/asian/etc. It's that you are able to afford any education opportunity you are given. Schools don't give points for being a minority, but minorities gain more access to higher learning than they otherwise would because they can afford to take the time to get a diploma.
If a minority member is able to pay for access to higher education, I don't see why that money should go to him/her as opposed to someone who otherwise would not have access to higher education.
Because blacks and other minorities are disproportionately poorer than whites, then even if you completely ignored race when selecting applicants, the benefits would skew towards those racial minorities, but ONLY racial minority members with economic needs.
I'm open to the argument that scholarship/loan programs should have racial preferences, but that is quite different from a school rejecting someone based on their race. Instead, affirmative action should give minorities the chance to compete economically with whites, but ONLY minority members who actually need that boost.
Then you're a retard, there is no such thing as homophobia.- medic