Homosexuality is socially beneficial

At 5/24/2012 5:50:05 PM, LibertyCampbell wrote:
Who cares why people want to sleep with people of the same sex? It really has nothing to do with marriage policy.

It does, as it goes. Mutually consenting adults of group A have access to benefits and social status that mutually consenting adults of group B does not. The desires of both groups are identical, and the mutually consenting love of group A and group B is as identical as we can ever know. Therefore, it is either discrimination or policy to dent group B the rights freely thrown at the feet of group A.

Homosexuality has evolved and still thrived in nature because of the benefits garnered by having a homosexual relation of sorts. An example: A homosexual uncle of a child can spare more time helping that child, and thus passing on some of his genes, while the parents can spend more time having more children, thus making that uncle pass on more genes of his own indirectly. It may not be efficient, but it does ensure that that uncle's genes will be passed on, and he doesn't have to spend time looking for a mate.

At 5/25/2012 6:30:02 PM, Kinesis wrote:

At 5/25/2012 6:23:16 PM, Kleptin wrote:
Gay marriage as a debate topic is just silly. It's more fun to talk about homosexuality in totality.

Yeah, but it's symbolic you know? Putting gay relationships on the same level as straight ones in such an official way sends a message.

What is it about straight relationships that warrant them being more official?

At 6/2/2012 3:42:26 PM, Kleptin wrote:

At 5/25/2012 6:30:02 PM, Kinesis wrote:

At 5/25/2012 6:23:16 PM, Kleptin wrote:
Gay marriage as a debate topic is just silly. It's more fun to talk about homosexuality in totality.

Yeah, but it's symbolic you know? Putting gay relationships on the same level as straight ones in such an official way sends a message.

What is it about straight relationships that warrant them being more official?

First of all, you mentioned gay marriage in your first post. Second of all, straight relationships are what evolution intended. Gay couples cannot raise children as well as straight ones, they spread diseases, and in the Netherlands (famous for gay marriage) only between 2% and 6% of gays and lesbians have entered marriages in the first five years.

At 5/21/2012 6:05:30 PM, Kleptin wrote:
If you don't follow some religious doctrine, you probably don't have a legitimate reason to be against same-sex marriage. I believe that human beings all desire love and appreciation as well as sex, regardless of sexual orientation. Biologically, this should result in offspring. I posit that homosexuality is a natural development in human society as a way to control the population while allowing for humans to participate in society, love, and sex.

I also point at the increasing trend of infertility and do not believe this is simply due to an increase of chemicals and carcinogens, but to a large-scale genetic cause.

I anticipate arguments that homosexuality is not genetic. I preemptively respond by saying that I believe homosexuality to have both environmental and biological components.

It is proven homosexuality has contributed to a substantial increase in stds. Homosexuals tend not to be in committed relationships, and tend to be more promiscious, wich helps to the spread of diseases. When some homosexuals commit to a relationship it normally does not last as long as a hetrosexual committed relationships. Also same sex couples who haven children it is proven the children do not do as well. This can add to complications if the couple seperate, and only one or neither of them has actually taken part in the creation of the child/children. These are reasons and none of them are religious it is simply because society is better of without it. The most fundamental form of any society is the domestic family of the parents being a man and a woman passing on the values that makes society sustainable. The family is being attaked and eroded, byt the notion you can have sex for fun with no consequence. Where a marriage is no longer any real commitment, this has taken society down hill and fast. We now have abortion, divorce, same sex relationships, all these thigs have become the norm, but at a cost to society, and the erosion of the family.