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10/1/2009 5:44:09 PM Posted: 1 month ago I have a Compare and Contrast essay on them tommorow, so that's how this came up.
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10/1/2009 5:47:33 PM Posted: 1 month ago Kung Fuzi was Chinese, and believed that people were naturally good.
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10/1/2009 5:48:19 PM Posted: 1 month ago Plato: Socio-Communistic Totalitarian
At 9/29/2009 3:38:40 PM, Volkov wrote: It isn't stealing; they're taxes. At 10/8/2009 2:58:08 PM, Kleptin wrote: What is the sound of one master hand clapping? :P At 10/11/2009 3:46:07 PM, wjmelements wrote: Let's use our heads here. We have two bulletproofs, and the obvious way to test this is to shoot them. I will happily volunteer for that experiment tonight. |
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10/1/2009 5:48:48 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/1/2009 5:47:33 PM, mongeese wrote: Comments, not summaries of summaries of summaries. "It is not the business of the law to make anyone good or reverent or moral or clean or upright." -Murray Rothbard Please comment: http://ddofans.com... SIGN UP FOR COLONIAL AMERICA MAFIA: http://www.debate.org... |
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10/1/2009 5:49:59 PM Posted: 1 month ago No democracy
At 9/29/2009 3:38:40 PM, Volkov wrote: It isn't stealing; they're taxes. At 10/8/2009 2:58:08 PM, Kleptin wrote: What is the sound of one master hand clapping? :P At 10/11/2009 3:46:07 PM, wjmelements wrote: Let's use our heads here. We have two bulletproofs, and the obvious way to test this is to shoot them. I will happily volunteer for that experiment tonight. |
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10/1/2009 5:51:12 PM Posted: 1 month ago Say Confucious instead of Kung Fuzi. We're not Chinese.
Anyway, they're much more different than alike. Confucious developed an elaborate moral code which was to be the basis of government and life in general for East Asia from until the time Confucious lived and is still going on today. Plato was more of a philosopher, a very important philosopher at that -- the founder of Western Philosophy. Confucious changed lives, while Plato taught - and his words have been quite important. I'd say Confucious has had a much bigger impact on the world. Though, if it weren't for Plato - maybe not Socrates, and if no Socrates - maybe no Aristotle, and if no Aristotle - maybe no Alexander the Great. They're both quite important. "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." ~Stephen F. Roberts |
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10/1/2009 6:07:36 PM Posted: 1 month ago I don't like Plato's conclusions. He thinks that lying to manipulate the public is okay. I disagree, as this leads to corruption, especially when only a select caste can govern and are trusted to be enlightened ("Napoleon is always right".)
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10/1/2009 6:15:03 PM Posted: 1 month ago At 10/1/2009 6:07:36 PM, wjmelements wrote: Yeah, true. Plato pretty much invented propaganda. Confucious's ideas were more morally just than Plato's imo. Confucious taught honor and respect. Although, Plato did lay the foundation for political theory (the Republic). Also, a correction in my above post. Socrates taught Plato, not vice-versa. "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." ~Stephen F. Roberts |
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10/26/2009 8:26:22 PM Posted: 3 weeks ago I think the most important aspect of Confucius' thought was his focus on ritual/tradition, and I would say that he didn't exactly think human nature was good, that was Mencius. Confucius thought that when humans were good if they combined their nature with ritual, which allowed for proper action and a harmonious society.
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