Dying and fighting for America

Is it even worth it anymore for a Christian to die for and Defend America anymore.

The Govt sh#ts all over us by putting covers over our war memorials that bear a cross on them. The history and culture of this country has been completely rewritten to depict America as a disease and a blight on all human kind. Our leadership goes to other countries and apologizes for and belittles our country. While third world countries steam ahead and prosper our govt saddles the people and business with more endless regulation and taxes that make us more and more uncompetitive and worthless in the world.
Our govt has grown so corrupt and so large and so in debt that my children have no possible hope of even having even close to the standard of living I have enjoyed all these years. You tell me, is this worth fighting and dying for. I am married to a Swedish women and considering moving there because I can't bear to watch this country die before my eyes. At least Sweden has a culture and is proud of it and doesn't apologize for it and rewrite it. The America I once knew was worth fighting for. I cant see anything worth fighting for anymore. Is there any reason I should stay here anymore? I am sure I will get alot of don't let the door slam me in the a## comments. The more I get the easier it will be to decide.

At 10/8/2009 4:49:35 PM, sadolite wrote:
Is it even worth it anymore for a Christian to die for and Defend America anymore.

The Govt sh#ts all over us by putting covers over our war memorials that bear a cross on them. The history and culture of this country has been completely rewritten to depict America as a disease and a blight on all human kind. Our leadership goes to other countries and apologizes for and belittles our country. While third world countries steam ahead and prosper our govt saddles the people and business with more endless regulation and taxes that make us more and more uncompetitive and worthless in the world.
Our govt has grown so corrupt and so large and so in debt that my children have no possible hope of even having even close to the standard of living I have enjoyed all these years. You tell me, is this worth fighting and dying for. I am married to a Swedish women and considering moving there because I can't bear to watch this country die before my eyes. At least Sweden has a culture and is proud of it and doesn't apologize for it and rewrite it. The America I once knew was worth fighting for. I cant see anything worth fighting for anymore. Is there any reason I should stay here anymore? I am sure I will get alot of don't let the door slam me in the a## comments. The more I get the easier it will be to decide.

1. Haha!
2. What does any of this have to do with Christianity?
3. Was it ever "worth it" to die "for your country", whatever that means.
4. Don't let the door...

At 10/8/2009 5:00:03 PM, leet4A1 wrote:
1. Haha!
2. What does any of this have to do with Christianity?
3. Was it ever "worth it" to die "for your country", whatever that means.
4. Don't let the door...

My sentiments exactly.

Gotta ask how you think Sweden is somehow a better option than the US is, sadolite. They have publicly-funded health care there, you know.

At 10/8/2009 5:23:58 PM, Volkov wrote:
Gotta ask how you think Sweden is somehow a better option than the US is, sadolite. They have publicly-funded health care there, you know.

For one thing like I stated before it isn't ashamed of it's history and hasn't rewritten it. I have been to Sweden and it has many other things about it that make it tolerable such as looser pays civil court system. Professional criminal jury system that doesn't put up with or listen to whining and excuses as defenses to crime. It's economic system is almost all export very little finished goods are imported to Sweden. It's population has remained static at around 9 to 10 million for the last 30 yrs. which allows it to have a socialized medical system that is fairly efficient. And the fact that it has a 5 to 1 export import trade surplus means that it has outside money coming in to pay for it's entitlement programs without having to sell debt to the rest of the world. And last but not least it balances it's budget on a regular bases.

At 10/8/2009 5:00:03 PM, leet4A1 wrote:

At 10/8/2009 4:49:35 PM, sadolite wrote:
Is it even worth it anymore for a Christian to die for and Defend America anymore.

The Govt sh#ts all over us by putting covers over our war memorials that bear a cross on them. The history and culture of this country has been completely rewritten to depict America as a disease and a blight on all human kind. Our leadership goes to other countries and apologizes for and belittles our country. While third world countries steam ahead and prosper our govt saddles the people and business with more endless regulation and taxes that make us more and more uncompetitive and worthless in the world.
Our govt has grown so corrupt and so large and so in debt that my children have no possible hope of even having even close to the standard of living I have enjoyed all these years. You tell me, is this worth fighting and dying for. I am married to a Swedish women and considering moving there because I can't bear to watch this country die before my eyes. At least Sweden has a culture and is proud of it and doesn't apologize for it and rewrite it. The America I once knew was worth fighting for. I cant see anything worth fighting for anymore. Is there any reason I should stay here anymore? I am sure I will get alot of don't let the door slam me in the a## comments. The more I get the easier it will be to decide.

1. Haha!
2. What does any of this have to do with Christianity?
3. Was it ever "worth it" to die "for your country", whatever that means.
4. Don't let the door...

You are young and have been taught the new version of the history of America. That's why you would say "What does Chrisianity have to do with it" It's not your fault. You havn't even a clue what this nation used to be like and how great it used to be.

At 10/8/2009 6:06:18 PM, sadolite wrote:
You are young and have been taught the new version of the history of America. That's why you would say "What does Chrisianity have to do with it" It's not your fault. You havn't even a clue what this nation used to be like and how great it used to be.

*Awaits argument/ any reasons whatsoever.*

At 10/8/2009 6:06:18 PM, sadolite wrote:

You are young and have been taught the new version of the history of America. That's why you would say "What does Chrisianity have to do with it" It's not your fault. You havn't even a clue what this nation used to be like and how great it used to be.

Just to inject myself into the discussion, how can we be sure that what you learned wasn't also just rewritten garbage? How would you know the difference if that's all you heard?

At 10/8/2009 6:06:18 PM, sadolite wrote:
You are young and have been taught the new version of the history of America. That's why you would say "What does Chrisianity have to do with it" It's not your fault. You havn't even a clue what this nation used to be like and how great it used to be.

Unless you're about 230 years old, this statement is bullsh*t.

At 10/8/2009 6:10:49 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:

At 10/8/2009 6:06:18 PM, sadolite wrote:

You are young and have been taught the new version of the history of America. That's why you would say "What does Christianity have to do with it" It's not your fault. You haven't even a clue what this nation used to be like and how great it used to be.

Just to inject myself into the discussion, how can we be sure that what you learned wasn't also just rewritten garbage? How would you know the difference if that's all you heard?

Well, my parents understanding of American history and the principals on which it was founded on matches my understanding exactly and my parents parents taught my parents the same thing. The new history says America was founded on secular non religious rule of law according to what my children are being taught in public school so I have to correct them and tell them that this nation was founded on Christian beliefs and that nearly all of the founding fathers were Christians and that those that were not did not have a problem with the idea that all peoples rights in this country are given to them by god and not govt.
I can understand why so many people today wounder what Chritianity has to do with America