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Children should not be put on leash

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heart_of_the_matter
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10/30/2009 12:15:06 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Children should not be put on leashes

Having no children myself, this makes me the perfect authority on how to raise kids properly :)
...I can easily see all of those things that parents are messing up! :D
Ahhh....Now if only I was still a teenager and still had all the answers to EVERYTHING...
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1. YOUNG CHILDREN SHOULD NOT HAVE INDEPENDENCE - To everyone defending the leash, saying it gives your child more independence, YOUR KID ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE INDEPENDENCE AT age 3. And guess what? Your independent children are obnoxious and have no respect for strangers.

2. DEGRADING - To all of those parents who use leashes on their children, children are not pets, you don't take them on a walk. If you can't control your children, then you should not have children, plain and simple.

3. CHILDREN NEED TO LEARN PROPER DISCIPLINE FROM PARENTS WORDS - Children are very trainable. If you help the child understand the association between pain and acting up, you will not have any problems. You do the child and everyone else an injustice when you do not properly discipline him/her. Little children love to learn (that is a human's survival skill! and so it is very ingrained)...so "timeouts" work well on them because they can't explore and learn - physically hold them there if needed
(or if you still can't control your child seek professional help or go on nanny 911).
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??? SAFETY ISSUE OF USING THEM -??? does it give more safety all the time?

The leash could give a false sense of security! the kid can still step off the curb and get hit...or do something else stupid and the parent will falsely be thinking that all is well and that they don't have to watch them...because the "leash" is watching them...but the leash doesn't have eyes or a brain to see the dangers that the child can't see.

The leashes are almost always at the max distance. A parent with one who is not paying attention to their kid may take a step torwards the kid and the sudden slack could put the kid on their face.

Also the leash could be used to jerk the child! (causing harm)

The leash itself is something that could get wrapped around the throat = choking hazard.
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so anyway, that's where I'm coming from...what do YOU think about children being placed on leashes?
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theLwerd
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10/30/2009 12:28:29 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
I don't see anything wrong with a kid being put on a leash. It doesn't imply that their pets, and I don't think it says that a parent is irresponsible or unable to control their child either. I think the primary purpose of it is to prevent kids from wandering and getting lost. Sure, the ideal would be to be able to keep your eyes on your kid 24/7, and I'm sure most people do their best in that regard. Still, kids tend to disappear - sometimes at their own discretion, and sometimes because people take them (it's rare, but hey, it happens). So, what's the big deal if their parents leash their kid as an extra precaution? The implication behind just the sound of that - putting your kid on a leash, lol - makes it sound a lot worse than it really is, in my opinion. As long as the parent is still keeping an eye on the kid, and still disciplining the kid, then it's a-ok in my book.
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10/30/2009 12:48:35 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 10/30/2009 12:28:29 AM, theLwerd wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with a kid being put on a leash. It doesn't imply that their pets, and I don't think it says that a parent is irresponsible or unable to control their child either. I think the primary purpose of it is to prevent kids from wandering and getting lost. Sure, the ideal would be to be able to keep your eyes on your kid 24/7, and I'm sure most people do their best in that regard. Still, kids tend to disappear - sometimes at their own discretion, and sometimes because people take them (it's rare, but hey, it happens). So, what's the big deal if their parents leash their kid as an extra precaution? The implication behind just the sound of that - putting your kid on a leash, lol - makes it sound a lot worse than it really is, in my opinion. As long as the parent is still keeping an eye on the kid, and still disciplining the kid, then it's a-ok in my book.

Completely agree there, I've gotten into discussions about this before. As much as I'm against others controlling people, I think that it puts the parent more at ease when trying to do other things, as well as lower the chances of the child getting lost to zero. People also think it's an insult to the child as if he/she is a pet, but really, they're insulting animals as living beings.

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mattrodstrom
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10/30/2009 7:55:27 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
unless your kid had serious ADD and is going to run into the street or something, I have to think that a leash does more harm than good.

For example with dogs I've always noticed that those people whose dogs don't have to be on a leash are much better behaved, because they have to learn self control from when they're little, rather than being restrained into control. I've always wished I could walk my dog regularly this way, for she actually calms down and behaves better when I do, but It's illegal where I live.

I think that parents have to give their kids some responsibility, so they can learn to deal with it and make good decisions.
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10/30/2009 8:43:27 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 10/30/2009 12:28:29 AM, theLwerd wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with a kid being put on a leash. It doesn't imply that their pets, and I don't think it says that a parent is irresponsible or unable to control their child either. I think the primary purpose of it is to prevent kids from wandering and getting lost. Sure, the ideal would be to be able to keep your eyes on your kid 24/7, and I'm sure most people do their best in that regard. Still, kids tend to disappear - sometimes at their own discretion, and sometimes because people take them (it's rare, but hey, it happens). So, what's the big deal if their parents leash their kid as an extra precaution? The implication behind just the sound of that - putting your kid on a leash, lol - makes it sound a lot worse than it really is, in my opinion. As long as the parent is still keeping an eye on the kid, and still disciplining the kid, then it's a-ok in my book.

Hey, some people like to kill other people, why don't we put everyone on leashes?
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11/3/2009 10:43:36 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 10/30/2009 7:55:27 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
For example with dogs I've always noticed that those people whose dogs don't have to be on a leash are much better behaved, because they have to learn self control from when they're little, rather than being restrained into control.

Which do you think came first, removing the leash or the dog learning self-control?
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11/3/2009 5:42:43 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I think that it's a twisted and ill way to take care of your child.

I think you should at least give that minimal attention required to your child so that he doesn't hurt himself or get lost in a public place. And you need to teach him to not run off, not physically prevent him from doing so. By doing that you disregard the development and learning of your child and treat him as an animal, with a leash.
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11/3/2009 7:26:10 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 10/30/2009 8:43:27 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Hey, some people like to kill other people, why don't we put everyone on leashes?

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11/4/2009 11:19:57 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/3/2009 7:26:10 PM, Nags wrote:
At 10/30/2009 8:43:27 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Hey, some people like to kill other people, why don't we put everyone on leashes?

(Fascist)

I'm anti-Child leashes. Just applying OP's logic
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11/4/2009 12:10:23 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
I find people's reaction to this issue strange, it's really not a big deal.

I think a short leash can be extremely practical for the parents of kids of a certain age (around two years old) who want to walk independantly but aren't aware enough to do so safely in a city environment. Young kids are liable to walk straight out into a busy road if not supervised.

Holding hands is good but if you are holding your child's hand 100% of the time you are exerting complete control of their movements the whole time which could be restricting. A leash provides the opportunity for a toddler to have some freedom of movement to walk around but still be safely kept near.

It is also quite difficult to push a shopping trolley or a pushchair if you are holding your kids hand, so leashes can be very useful, especially for single parents.

I think it would be a bit wierd to have an older kid on a leash but if we're talking about little tots then I don't see the problem.
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