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johngriswald
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12/30/2009 9:27:08 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 12/30/2009 8:38:29 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Oh great, so now you can whine that an evil white man stole your sleep as well!

I'm stealing his sleep with 10% interest. I'm going to harness that sleeping power to enslave more black people. Eventually (at a 10% interest) I expect to enslave every black man by June. Soon the black man will only dream of the white woman (I will own all sleep). The black woman will only dream of the white man. Before you know it the entire black race will disappear by next Christmas.

Just think, you're the only one that stands between me and your race's destruction. Choose your words carefully my friend and I might allow you to keep your sleep.
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Kleptin
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12/30/2009 10:53:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 12/30/2009 1:15:15 PM, kelly224 wrote:
At 12/30/2009 10:10:30 AM, Kleptin wrote:
Obviously not, since Blacks are the only race in the entire world to know hardship, racism, and discrimination. Nothing good can happen to blacks, only to other people, and of course, all the world's misfortune is heaped upon black shoulders. Death, old age, and sickness only befall black people.

You said that. Taken out of context as expected. It's literal thinking like this that I disagree with. Thanks for being so subordinate.

Let's not beat around the bush any longer. You are an Angry Black Man. All Angry Black Men are the same. It's like the the Protagonist, the Damsel in Distress, the Evil Genius, or the Blind Seer etc.

We can read you like a book. The only think you seem to really want to talk about is how Blacks get the short end of the stick in every single situation. While what I said may not have been taken out of your mouth, trust me when I say it is exactly what you are portraying to people. Seriously, you skirt around the issue and flee from it once it is approached. Let's just get it all in the open. You are an Angry Black Man and you want to share your tales of oppression and injustice with all of us inexperienced young folk.

For god's sake, grandpa. Just let it go. Seriously. The less you remind us that you're black, the easier it is for our already liberal minds to do away with racism and prejudice. If everyone were like you, black people will cease to be stereotyped the way they are, and instead, will be stereotyped as old people: Only focused on telling irrelevant stories about what happened hundreds of years ago >.>

For someone with alleged "street smarts" you're seriously lacking in practicality and social skills.
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12/30/2009 11:29:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 12/30/2009 10:53:46 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 12/30/2009 1:15:15 PM, kelly224 wrote:
At 12/30/2009 10:10:30 AM, Kleptin wrote:
Obviously not, since Blacks are the only race in the entire world to know hardship, racism, and discrimination. Nothing good can happen to blacks, only to other people, and of course, all the world's misfortune is heaped upon black shoulders. Death, old age, and sickness only befall black people.

You said that. Taken out of context as expected. It's literal thinking like this that I disagree with. Thanks for being so subordinate.

Let's not beat around the bush any longer. You are an Angry Black Man. All Angry Black Men are the same. It's like the the Protagonist, the Damsel in Distress, the Evil Genius, or the Blind Seer etc.

We can read you like a book. The only think you seem to really want to talk about is how Blacks get the short end of the stick in every single situation. While what I said may not have been taken out of your mouth, trust me when I say it is exactly what you are portraying to people. Seriously, you skirt around the issue and flee from it once it is approached. Let's just get it all in the open. You are an Angry Black Man and you want to share your tales of oppression and injustice with all of us inexperienced young folk.

For god's sake, grandpa. Just let it go. Seriously. The less you remind us that you're black, the easier it is for our already liberal minds to do away with racism and prejudice. If everyone were like you, black people will cease to be stereotyped the way they are, and instead, will be stereotyped as old people: Only focused on telling irrelevant stories about what happened hundreds of years ago >.>

For someone with alleged "street smarts" you're seriously lacking in practicality and social skills.

Well, no disagreement over here that kelly is racist.

But it's certainly understandable. These stories that happened hundreds of years ago are certainly not irrelevant. If the slaves had been given a proper education and wage, none of the poverty and oppression that blacks face today would exist. I realize I'm generalizing (pretend I wrote in some weasel words), but the reason for the class separation is solely that of slavery.
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12/31/2009 5:55:00 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 12/30/2009 11:29:45 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 12/30/2009 10:53:46 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 12/30/2009 1:15:15 PM, kelly224 wrote:
At 12/30/2009 10:10:30 AM, Kleptin wrote:
Obviously not, since Blacks are the only race in the entire world to know hardship, racism, and discrimination. Nothing good can happen to blacks, only to other people, and of course, all the world's misfortune is heaped upon black shoulders. Death, old age, and sickness only befall black people.

You said that. Taken out of context as expected. It's literal thinking like this that I disagree with. Thanks for being so subordinate.

Let's not beat around the bush any longer. You are an Angry Black Man. All Angry Black Men are the same. It's like the the Protagonist, the Damsel in Distress, the Evil Genius, or the Blind Seer etc.

We can read you like a book. The only think you seem to really want to talk about is how Blacks get the short end of the stick in every single situation. While what I said may not have been taken out of your mouth, trust me when I say it is exactly what you are portraying to people. Seriously, you skirt around the issue and flee from it once it is approached. Let's just get it all in the open. You are an Angry Black Man and you want to share your tales of oppression and injustice with all of us inexperienced young folk.

For god's sake, grandpa. Just let it go. Seriously. The less you remind us that you're black, the easier it is for our already liberal minds to do away with racism and prejudice. If everyone were like you, black people will cease to be stereotyped the way they are, and instead, will be stereotyped as old people: Only focused on telling irrelevant stories about what happened hundreds of years ago >.>

For someone with alleged "street smarts" you're seriously lacking in practicality and social skills.

Well, no disagreement over here that kelly is racist.

But it's certainly understandable. These stories that happened hundreds of years ago are certainly not irrelevant. If the slaves had been given a proper education and wage, none of the poverty and oppression that blacks face today would exist. I realize I'm generalizing (pretend I wrote in some weasel words), but the reason for the class separation is solely that of slavery.

So is that true of the white working class as well?

Slavery ended a while ago, it can no longer be cited as an excuse for the ills of the black community. There were white slaves, and the majority of the white population were not treated as well as they should have been. This is now history, america now enjoys equality of opportunity, if things are hard for you it might actually be your own fault.
In other words, whereas I accept the theory of evolution is dubious, I will not accept that you're right because it would make me wrong, another contradiction of the physical sciences.
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12/31/2009 7:18:04 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 12/30/2009 11:29:45 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
If the slaves had been given a proper education and wage, none of the poverty and oppression that blacks face today would exist. I realize I'm generalizing (pretend I wrote in some weasel words), but the reason for the class separation is solely that of slavery.

No, the only explanation is laziness and/or poor family values. If immigrants can come here with nothing and churn out doctors and lawyers, what excuse do poor black families have? The class separation may have been caused by it, but it is perpetuated by the fact that the poorest, lowest income members of the African-American race don't have the values needed in order to break out of the poverty cycle. It doesn't help that complaining is such a rich part of the Black poverty heritage. Not only that, but the blacks who manage to break the poverty cycle and actually become successful are seen as sell-outs.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.
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1/2/2010 7:30:06 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Would you kindly explain all the oppressive kings in africa? or maybe can you explain the africans that sold their own fellow africans to the slave trade?
Seriously, Pluto is no longer a planet?
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1/2/2010 9:47:20 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 12/31/2009 7:18:04 AM, Kleptin wrote:
At 12/30/2009 11:29:45 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
If the slaves had been given a proper education and wage, none of the poverty and oppression that blacks face today would exist. I realize I'm generalizing (pretend I wrote in some weasel words), but the reason for the class separation is solely that of slavery.

No, the only explanation is laziness and/or poor family values. If immigrants can come here with nothing and churn out doctors and lawyers, what excuse do poor black families have? The class separation may have been caused by it, but it is perpetuated by the fact that the poorest, lowest income members of the African-American race don't have the values needed in order to break out of the poverty cycle. It doesn't help that complaining is such a rich part of the Black poverty heritage. Not only that, but the blacks who manage to break the poverty cycle and actually become successful are seen as sell-outs.

Lol, are you serious? The ONLY explanation is laziness/poor family values?
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: I know popculturepooka annoys me the most. Mainly because his arguments are so damned solid. Come to the dark side pooka, we have cookies!

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johngriswald
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1/2/2010 10:55:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/2/2010 9:47:20 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Lol, are you serious? The ONLY explanation is laziness/poor family values?

Yes, I agree with him. There are plenty of blacks with good family values that are hardworking, they've excelled, excellently just like any other race. It's poor parenting, laziness, and a culture that encourages laziness. Try hard in school, dress like you didn't just walk out of jail, don't listen to rap and hate/mistrust everyone who isn't your race, make friends of another race and suddenly you're "Not Black Enough" or "too white". Lol wtf is that if not a destructive culture?
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1/2/2010 11:32:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/2/2010 10:55:17 PM, johngriswald wrote:
At 1/2/2010 9:47:20 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Lol, are you serious? The ONLY explanation is laziness/poor family values?

Yes, I agree with him. There are plenty of blacks with good family values that are hardworking, they've excelled, excellently just like any other race. It's poor parenting, laziness, and a culture that encourages laziness. Try hard in school, dress like you didn't just walk out of jail, don't listen to rap and hate/mistrust everyone who isn't your race, make friends of another race and suddenly you're "Not Black Enough" or "too white". Lol wtf is that if not a destructive culture?

Yes, and there plenty of blacks that are hardworking and have good family values that are still desperately poor - so obviously you and Kleptin cannot be right.

Its astounding to me that you think that past discrimination has nothing to do with black poverty in the slightest.
: At 7/17/2010 5:32:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: I know popculturepooka annoys me the most. Mainly because his arguments are so damned solid. Come to the dark side pooka, we have cookies!

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