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Are the Borg (Star Trek) a ripoff of the Cybermen (Doctor Who)?

Asked by: Ragnar
  • Cybermen came first

    Because Cybermen came first, they coined the idea of assimilation.
    Even though the whole idea is based off of a scientific theory, assimilation is at the root of both creature creations.
    The Cybermen simply do it properly while the Borg have wires hanging all over the place.
    It is obvious however as time goes by they have started borrowing from each other.

  • The Bore are a carbon copy of the Cybermen.

    Heck,they stole the most iconic line "Resistance is futile", and they say that they seek perfection. Also, if anyone sounds silly, it's the Borg. What villains ever sounded threatening in an american accent? Though admitedly the 80s Cybermen were campy rubbish, but I think of tenth planet and tomb of the cybermen, very creepy stuff. Someone was a Who fan and instead of buying the rights for the integration of both universes they made a carbon copy.

  • The Bore are a carbon copy of the Cybermen.

    Heck,they stole the most iconic line "Resistance is futile", and they say that they seek perfection. Also, if anyone sounds silly, it's the Borg. What villains ever sounded threatening in an american accent? Though admitedly the 80s Cybermen were campy rubbish, but I think of tenth planet and tomb of the cybermen, very creepy stuff. Someone was a Who fan and instead of buying the rights for the integration of both universes they made a carbon copy.

  • Borg are copies

    With the klingons good Star Trek needed to come up with a new villain quickly or else people would get very bored very quickly and stop watching . So they knocked off a monster from a tv show, not the best one no people would notice but the second best

  • Cybermen came first.

    As cool as steam-punk is, the Borg seem to be no more than a steam-punk version of the Cybermen. They have their moments, yet none that actually distinguish them from being just a copy of the Doctor Who villains. It's almost as if the power of the Cybermen infested yet another universe.

  • So many aspects are lifted from Tomb of the Cybermen

    The tombs, the man who is partially converted and fights it, the "Resistance is Futile" speech, almost word for word if memory serves me correctly and more.
    Some think Motion Picture is the basis, but Tomb of the Cybermen was 1967, a long time before Star Trek the Motion Picture or Next Generation.

  • The borg are ripping the cybermen off because the cybermen were created first.

    If you look at the dates of when the cybermen first appeared , it is 1966, while the borg's is 1989, 13 years after the cybermens first episode. So that is why the borg are carbon copies of the awesome cybermen and trekies need to stop whining about it ok?

  • The borg are ripping the cybermen off because the cybermen were created first.

    If you look at the dates of when the cybermen first appeared , it is 1966, while the borg's is 1989, 13 years after the cybermens first episode. So that is why the borg are carbon copies of the awesome cybermen and trekies need to stop whining about it ok?

  • Cyberman came first

    The Cyberman did indeed come first. The Borg AND the Cyberman both believe in making all other races like them and assimilating them by using robotics. They are both VERY alike in that way and they can be seen as cousins (In my opinion) . But another thing that can be seen is that the Borg is also a mix of Daleks too, due to the fact they give you the sense of hopelessness and you will most likely die from them. So not only are the Borg crudely "ripping off" Cybermen but also Daleks.

  • The Cybermen came first

    The Borg may appear smarter but it's the Cybermens relentlessness that makes them terrifying. TheBorg may walk away and rationalize it in long winded speeches, the Cybermen are always there much like the slow lurching zombies in Walking Dead. You may not see them but they're always over the horizon. They're both well done and in their context. A contest, I don't think so.

  • It is the opposite.

    The Borg did not copy from the Cybermen it is the other way around. Before The Cybermen's update during Matt Smith's run Borg and Cybermen were far different. The Borg assimilate you by injecting you with nanoprobes which assimilate you from the inside. The Borg have the ability to adapt to weapons with their body shields making them useless Cybermen do not. The Borg are also way more biological then the Cybermen. The Borg are not individuals like the Cybermen but consist of a hive mind a collective. The Borg also posses thousands of extremely powerful cube shaped "deathstars." They have transporter beams (teleporters) and can travel at transwarp. They Borg also have regenerative systems which repair themselves. The Cybermen do not have any of that until their updated version first seen in "nightmare in silver" Now the can teleport, they can adapt to weapons fire they can even assimilate you with Cybermites just like the Borg's nanoprobes. So no I think the Borg were a separate idea that the new Cybermen copied from.

  • The idea for both came from Nazi Germany.

    The thing is, for all of the people who say "resistance is futile" came from the "Tomb of the Cybermen" or whatever that episode's name was, I've got to tell you: that phrase was used by Nazi Germany, just like the name storm troopers from Star Wars was the name of nazi soldiers. The thing is, it is my belief that the Borg are influenced by Star Trek: The Motion Picture. So many similarities about them, and even Spock says "resistance would be futile." Tell me what you think about this.

  • The Borg are inspired by certainly.

    That said, the Borg are indeed much more imposing than the Cybermen and Dalek combined. The Borg bring a bigger sense of hopelessness. Once Locutis was on the scene no one was safe, and nothing was sacred. I never have a doubt that the Doctor won't escape intact every time. I love all of it, but The Borg are a bit better. Certainly better fleshed out ( pun intended ) anyway.

  • Inspired, perhaps, but not a rip off.

    While there are of course some remarkable similarities, bear in mind that Cybermen have always been portrayed as individuals in the Doctor Who series. Meanwhile the Borg in Star Trek are one giant hive mind, with one voice and one purpose of assimilation, there is no individual identity. Also, the Borg do not sound quite as ridiculous as Cybermen do.

  • Just because Cybermen came first, doesn't mean that the Borg are a rip off.

    The Borg and the Cybermen are different in a lot of aspects. Yes, the have several similarities, but ultimately, they are not the same. I think the creator of the Borg created a new and unique species. They are still visibly human, rather than the Cybermen who are practically just robots using the human brain as a tool. The Borg assimilate and require a special environment to live in, whereas the Cybermen just take what comes their way. (From what I know) The Borg are an alien species while the Cybermen were created from humans.


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