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  • Yes, a plan can be defind with choice

    Free Will, or the concept of choice, is the ability to differentiate and choose. A divine plan is a plan, by some "Higher Being" that, to most of us, seems synonymous with fate. That isn't the case. Fate and a Divine Plan are not the same thing, why? Because a plan doesn't always work. This, is assuming we do not see Divinity as 'perfect', because in every religion, we see that God(s) can fail. In Christianity & Judaism we see a God that had to send his son to correct what had happened to his world, we find a Creator that had to unleash a flood, we find a Jealous Creator, as quoted in the bible. And in a state of perfection, one cannot be jealous. The definition of perfection simply refers to God as a whole, as one. In old beliefs, like in Greek Mythology, we find Gods that fail, and can be bested by even humans. In essence, a Divine Plan can exist, but it doesn't mean that it is the end-all-be-all, because with the concept of Free Will, we introduce the option to defy the Plan. A Plan/Road is set, but we can drive our Car/Soul however we feel like.

  • Yes, whether you're talking about compatibilist free will or libertarian free will

    Compatibilist free will is obviously consistent with a divine plan because our choices are determined by the condition of our hearts, and God can influence the condition of our hearts. Libertarian free will is also consistent with a divine plan because God knows all the counter-factuals of human freedom and can determine what people choose by determine the conditions under which he knows they will choose what he wants.

  • Free will and a divine plan can coexist

    Anything is possible including reconciling free will and a divine plan. However, it is just not exactly clear how the two actually fit together. It seems the ideas are to completely opposing ideas that are paradoxes. However, it seems to be the answer to how the two ideas can be reconciled lies somewhere in understanding philosophy and possibly spirituality.

  • Yes, because free will is part of the divine plan.

    If you are a Christian, have you ever thought about why God cast Lucifer to Earth? Why not cast him into outer space, or into a black hole? Instead, God purposely chose Earth, where was his garden. God loved Lucifer even though Lucifer wanted to be independent and become like God at all cost. The divine plan is moving to achieve a balance, so perfect it reunites even that which was divided. It does this with Love. Love is a choice that comes from our free will to connect with others and become a part of them. In this sense free will coexists with the divine plan, a direct result of love. Read Bridges: An Extraordinary Journey of the Heart by W. S. Williamson

  • Of Course Not Silly Willys

    The average monotheistic religion claims that God is OMNISCIENT among other things. In the big three, God supposedly gave humans the ability to practice free will. While free will seems silly in the first place within a universe run by physics and chemistry, it is also impossible for it to exist within a plan made by a being with omniscience. If God creates a universe, regardless of it being run by laws or just plain woo magic, he, by definition, must have absolute knowledge of everything that happens within that universe from the beginning to infinity. There is no such thing as random events or probabilities in the face of absolute knowledge because if one exists, the other can not. Therefore, God can only create universes in which he plans out every single event. Free will would only introduce the probability factor which omits absolute knowledge.

  • Pretty simple really

    God is omniscient and omnipotent. One day, he creates a universe. He knows what will happen from the beginning to infinity. Nothing happens randomly or by chance because he knows the single path of events that this universe will take. Therefore, free will is the illusion of your reactions to the stimuli you receive. Chemistry and physics my dear.

  • Pretty simple really

    God is omniscient and omnipotent. One day, he creates a universe. He knows what will happen from the beginning to infinity. Nothing happens randomly or by chance because he knows the single path of events that this universe will take. Therefore, free will is the illusion of your reactions to the stimuli you receive. Chemistry and physics my dear.

  • Not at all.

    If all is predetermined by any kind of divine plan, then any experience of 'choice' is actually illusory, as all choices were pre-determined. If a God is playing with toy soldiers, and has one soldier walk to the left, could that soldier have chosen otherwise, or was his experience of choice (regarding direction) illusory and always dependent on the will of the God playing the game? If God created all things, and knows every choice we will ever make, the point of testing us would be nonsensical. By divine decree / divine plan, all choices were chosen for us well before we even arrived at the crossroads.

  • Not at all.

    If all is predetermined by any kind of divine plan, then any experience of 'choice' is actually illusory, as all choices were pre-determined. If a God is playing with toy soldiers, and has one soldier walk to the left, could that soldier have chosen otherwise, or was his experience of choice (regarding direction) illusory and always dependent on the will of the God playing the game? If God created all things, and knows every choice we will ever make, the point of testing us would be nonsensical. By divine decree / divine plan, all choices were chosen for us well before we even arrived at the crossroads.

  • Free will is useful, the Divine Plan is NOT

    If a Divine Plan exists, I cannot define it, I cannot know it, it does not help me in my decisions in life or in any other way. The ONLY function it can fill is condemnation or false acceptation ex-post. That I think either "Oh! That and that was not part of the Divine Plan! How awful!" or "Oh! That was quite the ordeal! It must've been a part of the Divine Plan and therefore it's OK somehow so I can distance myself from that!"

    It's useless because after the facts have already happened, nobody cares about what you think of it. It doesn't matter, because the events being judged have already happened.

    Free will is a useful concept. It highlights the responsibility we have over our actions. Unfortunately, most discussions around this concept lies in the ownership of an action (was it MY will vs something else?) which is a useless discussion since the cause of your actions are really irrelevant per se: only the effects of your actions matter to anyone but yourself.

    But thought about properly, in the sense that only the action matters, it becomes every person's responsibility to act in honorable and dignified ways and it is a choice to do so - regardless of current emotions or thoughts.

  • No they cannot

    Free will and divine plan contradict one another, but most ironically, neither actually exist in the real world. There is no god, but neither is there any real sense of free will. We live in a strictly determinist universe, a clockwork universe if you will. Time people come to grips with this reality.

  • You can't even define what is a divine plan

    This is impossible. Understandably there's probably some religious fella who thinks that GOD is so omniscient and omnipotent that he could create a divine plan that none of us would understand that could somehow include everything and everyone in this universe. What exactly is that plan huh? No, a divine plan doesn't even exist therefore free will cannot coexist. A plan that lasts forever is not a plan... its more like a repeated instruction set open to review.

  • No, Free will can't coexist with a divine plan

    Divine plan and free will are mutually exclusive. The idea of free will is that an individual has all the power to direct his life in the way he see fit. Free will lets the individual respond accordingly to the outward and inward stimuli of his world. A divine plan would insinuate that an individual has no ability to drive his own life, but is merely being guided by a higher power.

  • No, free will and a divine plan can't exist together

    According to most religious folks who I have spoken with, all actions that take place within a human's life are in line with 'God's Will", otherwise meaning that everything a person does, they do for a specific divine-defined reason. If a deity has a predefined plan for each and everyone of us, how does that leave room for free will? If anything, there could possibly be some "wiggle-room" for people to partake of while following the path of their god's will, but the end result will be the same. That is not free will. Free will is having the control to make choices and act upon them in regards to circumstances, situations, daily experiences, etc, and being able to personally rationalize and decide how to deal with the consequences.


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