Can Islamic doctrine be held responsible for the Paris attacks?

Asked by: 64bithuman
  • The Doctrine makes ample room for violence.

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
    But if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

    You can look up the context for that verse - it won't do you much good. The Quran and the Hadith are both peppered with generalized commands against the unbeliever. Liberals are wrong: just because some section of moderate Muslims say they don't believe in that kind of stuff does NOT negate the verses of violence and the sizable Muslim polling population that agrees with many questionable if not directly violent verses.

  • Yes. Yes. Yes.

    The Quran states,"slash the throats of the unbelievers!", advocates Jihad and many different kinds, advocates death for apostacy, death for homosexuality, death for being Christian, Jew, nonmuslim, death for adultery. Death to the left. Death to the right. Death to nonmuslims! Fight! Fight! Fight! And the so called "moderate" Muslims back these maniacs just like Muhammed commanded!

  • They call themselves "Islamic State" for a reason.

    ISIS claims to be doing the work of Allah. There is extremism in any religion and ISIS is a group that favors radical Islam. ISIS wants to create a new caliphate in primarily Iraq and Syria. When these terrorists attack, they invoke the name of their god to kill people. We need to drastically do something about this.

  • Leaders need to speak out

    There is not enough condemnation from top islam leaders. There needs to be more major figures in the islam religion appearing on television and in the news to condemn these extremists and tell them that they are wrong. Perhaps it wont sway the extremists but at least it will show that islam isnt built on murder or hate.

  • Islam is a religion that encourages the elimination of all other beliefs that disagree with it

    How many times has a devout Christian walked into a coffee shop and indiscriminately executed innocents in the name of Jesus Christ? Islam is the most evil religion in existence. The way women are treated, the way crimes are handled; the evidence is right in your face. Individuals are not the issue. I'd go even as for to say that middle eastern society is not the issue. Islam is the issue; it is what drives the individuals and the greatest influence for middle eastern society. If you doubt any of what I'm saying, look up a translation for the Qaran.

  • Islam incites terror!

    Yes it certainly can.
    I am entirely sick and tired of hearing about Islam being a force for peace.
    Oh, really?
    Well, I am a happy and devout atheist of some 50 years now, entirely comfortable within my own skin - and I have never contemplated hanging, beheading or stoning those whose beliefs happen not to coincide with my own, or perpetrating the murder of close relatives in an orgy of "honour killing" - simple murder no less by any other rational and sane judgment.
    Nor would I mind in the least those who would point the finger of fun with some light-hearted and simple cartoons against my "faith" either.
    Islam is an appalling faith, outmoded and steeped in creaky outdated traditions, where women are manifestly subservient and cowed, and it is not a religion which is truly confident in itself - otherwise why would it brook the questioning of its faith and its stone-age tenets so fiercely?
    If you have nothing to hide, well then, stand up to scrutiny, take it on the chin and grow up.

  • Ultimately yes, but certainly more complex.

    We can use quotes from the Quran all day that either imply violence or peace.

    To be objective, the Bible also has verses that contradict each other in matters of violence, yet I recognize that Christianity (in general, in it's postodern form) is a relatively peaceful religion. So the claim that Islam is violent becasue of the verses is a fallacy. The only way to judge a religion would be by how it's interpreted by its people, because there is no "correct" way to interpret it per se.

    So if it's not a matter of the correct interpretation, then what is the reason why some "use" it for violence and some don't? That's where IMO it gets really confusing: If it's just an excuse for the violence that they naturally would like to commit, then why do they need the religion in order to commit it, just do it?! But on the other hand, religion cannot itself be responsible because, as previously stated, the interpretation is the result of something, not the truly original cause.

    So, in summary, I voted Yes because the doctrine is obviously a FACTOR, amongst others, which - when together - enable such acts to be carried out.

  • Islamic doctrine must be held responsible for the Paris attacks.

    Islamic doctrine have been derived from the scriptures of Quran. According to this scriptures the non believers in Islam should not be treated with kindness and Islam should be preserved at all costs. It actively encourages violence as means to an end and that end is the propagation of Islam. But this spreading of Islam is at the cost of Human lives and it is not a peaceful conquest. The interpretation of the verses leaves a lot of room for misrepresentation by unscrupulous elements. For these reasons the Islamic doctrine must be held responsible for the Paris attacks.

  • Can Islamic doctrine be held responsible for the Paris attacks? Yes.

    Jihad is an Islamic term referring to the religious duty of Muslims to maintain the religion. In Arabic, the word jihād is a noun meaning "to strive, to apply oneself, to struggle, to persevere". A person engaged in jihad is called a mujahid, the plural of which is mujahideen (مجاهدين). The word jihad appears frequently in the Quran, often in the idiomatic expression "striving in the way of God (al-jihad fi sabil Allah)", to refer to the act of striving to serve the purposes of God on this earth.

    Muslims and scholars do not all agree on its definition. Many observers—both Muslim and non-Muslim—as well as the Dictionary of Islam, talk of jihad having two meanings: an inner spiritual struggle (the "greater jihad"), and an outer physical struggle against the enemies of Islam (the "lesser jihad") which may take a violent or non-violent form. Jihad is often translated as "Holy War", although this term is controversial. According to "Orientalist" (historian of the Middle East) Bernard Lewis, "the overwhelming majority of classical theologians, jurists", and specialists in the hadith "understood the obligation of jihad in a military sense." Javed Ahmad Ghamidi states that there is consensus among Islamic scholars that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against wrong doers.

    It was generally supposed that the order for a general war could only be given by the Caliph (an office that was claimed by the Ottoman sultans), but Muslims who did not acknowledge the spiritual authority of the Caliphate (which has been vacant since 1923)—such as non-Sunnis and non-Ottoman Muslim states—always looked to their own rulers for the proclamation of a jihad. There has been in fact no universal warfare by Muslims on non-believers since the early caliphate. Some proclaimed jihad by claiming themselves as mahdi, e.g. the Sudanese Mahommed Ahmad in 1882. In classical Islam, the military form of jihad was also regulated to protect civilians.

    In the modern context the meaning of Jihad has been misused by the people having a political agenda and they are brainwashing the followers of Islam to carryout terror attacks in the name of Jihad. But Jihad is a very important Islamic doctrine and hence we can conclude that Islamic doctrine can be held responsible for the Paris attacks.

    Jihad is an important religious duty for Muslims. A minority among the Sunni scholars sometimes refer to this duty as the sixth pillar of Islam, though it occupies no such official status.[19] In Twelver Shi'a Islam, however, jihad is one of the ten Practices of the Religion.[

  • The doctrine promotes violence against non-believers, just as the Bible's quotes can be taken out of context and used for violence so can the Qu'ran's.

    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

  • People make false claims in the name of Islam.

    If Islam is a religion based on terrorism why is it only the 2% who claim that they are Muslims, committing these crimes? Why isn't all of the Muslim population doing the same thing? Don't interpret the texts of the Quran incorrectly.
    People say that Muslims are terrorists when the main source they are relying on is ISIS and Al Qaeda.
    A hostage that was held by ISIS for approximately a year, had stated the following claims:
    "There was never really discussion about texts or -- it was not a religious discussion. It was a political discussion."

    "It was more hammering what they were believing than teaching us about the Quran. Because it has nothing to do with the Quran."

    "We didn't even have the Quran; they didn't want even to give us a Quran."
    Why would such a large population be following this religion of it was truly based on terrorism?
    Don't believe these claims just because you want it to be true.

  • Extremist views should not be carried to the larger group

    Should we hold Americans responsible for gunmen who start mass shootings?
    The Islamic religion does not preach violence--it preaches peace. Extremists decide to go overboard and make their own ideals and opinions and carry them out with violence. It is their choice what they do with their views.
    Now, that is not to say that the Islamic religion couldn't be doing more to shame extremists and disown them, to make a statement.

  • No . . .

    There have been many many crimes commited by people claiming to be doing it for god when they really are not. ISIS is the same thing they do whatever they want for money and power than they blame it on others, and say that they are only doing it for god.

  • Islam has nothing to do with terorism.

    Western people need to know that ISIS do not belong to Islam. Isis is created , funded and trained by America. They made them as an excuse to invade syria just to get oil . In addition, western media has a massive effect on its people , they don't provide them with truth , they fill their mind with fake events .

  • This Shouldn't be an Argument

    One cannot blame the works of one small group to an entire religion. Think of it like this: the Klu Klux Klan's works should not be blamed on the entire relgion of Christianity. Not all Christians are members of the Klu Klux Klan and not all Muslims are members of ISIS.

  • This shouldn't be an argument

    One cannot blame the works of one small group to an entire religion. Think of it like this: the Klu Klux Klan's works should not be blamed on the entire relgion of Christianity. Not all Christians are members of the Klu Klux Klan and not all Muslims are members of ISIS.

  • Firstly the paris attack was political, and Islam was just a front for the terrorists.

    I like how @64bithuman showed those verses, If he had checked the verse just before 2:191, he/she would have seen that this is only the case for when the muslims are attacked. A muslim isn't allowed to attack, all the prophets wars were defensive. @IntellectVsSpirit5000, you certainly have spirit, but not so sure about Intellect. People say "Bro it says the prophet waged war on the non-believers, thus that means he started it." This notion is false, the non believers in this scenario were the Quraysh tribe, who had killed many muslims in Makkah, the prophet, in order to stop more murders of his followers, decided that now that he has more followers he could stop the Qurash from continuing there oppression. @1Historygenius, The Lord's resistance army of Uganda was called that because they were devout servants of the lord right? Just cause an organization does something in the name of something doesn't mean they understand what they are fighting for. If they new Islam for what it was they would realize that Suicide bombs are forbidden, the killing of children is forbidden, the killing of women is forbidden, and the killing of innocent humans is forbidden. This isn't anything new. Leader do speak out, Iran was quick in saying that 9/11 was wrong, and I'm sure other leaders pay there condolences after events like paris. Finally, @tommyjhnsn your hate isn't dissimilar to that of the Ku Klux Klan who thought that all colored skin people deserve slavery or death. Islam wasn't an issue when was leading to world progress in fields like math, chemistry, and literature. This terrorism shit isn't Islam.

  • Terror Has No Religion

    If you assume that Islam is the cause of the attacks, you're wrong. Those "violent quotes" are taken out of context and twisted to suit the needs of power-hungry twats in the Middle East and Northern Africa. People have been using religion as a means of attaining power for a long time now. Much like Stalin and Atheism, Hitler and Judaism, the Ayatollah and Shia Islam, etc. Terror has not religion.

  • Read the Quran

    The Quran is very clear on matters of suicide, persecution and murder.

    O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful!" (Quran 4:29)

    "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (Quran, 2:190)"

    "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (Quran, 5:32)"

    "Those who invoke not, with God, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day Of Judgement will be doubled To him, and he will dwell Therein in ignominy. (Quran, 25:68-69)"

    "If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (Quran, 5:28)"

    "God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)"

    "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (Quran 2:193)"

    "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (Quran, 2:256)"

    "Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (Quran, 15:2-3)"

    "And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he has been supported [by the law]." (Quran, 17:33)

  • Islam the Religion has no role in this tragedy

    ISIS is responsible for this act of violence and hate to France. The Islam religion has no part in committing these murders. This tragedy in Paris was the result of a group of individuals who just seek for bloodshed. These monsters we call ISIS are not the responsibility of the Islam. So the religion and it's people should not be held responsible for the acts of terrorism that ISIS caused

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