I think that it would be easy for China to beat the US in a war. First off, the US owes a large amount of money to China and it seems that we can't live our daily lives without borrowing money from them. The population of China allows the country an almost unlimited source of soldiers and resources. Many of the people in the US are disillusioned and do not seem to know or care enough to fight for anything.
You Americans just naturally think you could beat the Chinese simply because you are from the US of A. What would the Chinese think if they were to comment on this site? Their technology isn't weak, look at the J-10, J-20, type 99G they have developed. The real reason why they have been viewed like this because they do not release their information that easily. China is the closest ally to North Korea, and NK is the most secretive country in the world. I'm British by the way.
By calling in the $1.2 trillion debt that the USA owes China, China can effectively cripple the US's economy, while not completely causing the nation to go bankrupt. However, if China was to stop manufacturing goods for the USA, large corporations like Microsoft, Apple and Wal-Mart would go bankrupt, which then destroys the economy. What companies and stores that remain would then have to raise prices in a crippled economy, and the value of the US dollar would drop drastically. Therefore, China could effectively starve the US civilian population to death by destroying the companies that give the US population it's paychecks.
I agree that the US has a superior military than China does. I also agree that the US has superior allies currently. As soon as the US steps too far destabilizing oil producing nations to keep oil exported in the US dollar (petrodollar) China and Russia will intervene. Immediately NATO would catch America's back. The US economy will only be able to borrow money from allied and neutral nations for so long. Not long enough to sustain a long, drawn out far spread war. As nations no longer have to purchase oil set with the US dollar allies will drop. Even the greatest military in the world cannot be effective if their soldiers are not being paid. As control of current oil production shifts away from the US everything will grind to a halt. I am a US military veteran and when I look around at my countrymen i get sick to my stomach. The fat, ignorant, weak, selfish citizens of my nation do not have the wherewithal for world war 3. Watch your television, shop at walmart, feel entitled, and never never read a book. Keep it up comrade.
The question is, first of all, broad to acquire any type of intelligent answer. If a war between China and the US were to happen, it is more likely to take place around and over Taiwan. Assuming that is the case instead of an illogical all-out total war, China can quite easily humiliate the US in a war due to the fact that the US have very little advantage over the Chinese while the Chinese have overwhelming advantages against the US.
If china was to request its money that the US owe them then yes this would crush the dollar , military funding and most importantly banks (which no matter what you say they do run america). Then we would probably just destroy our self from there on out. I mean we would still have military deployed acting as militia for a fallen "empire" but in reality they wouldn't do that because china would just team up with Russia then deploy missiles strikes and some of china's 1.483 million personnel divided into 18 different corps. But if that happens who gets america?
"In a war" is rather broad, and it's fairly certain there are some cases, like a war on the Asian mainland, where China would have significant advantages, so, yes, China could beat the US in a war. There are other situations that would lead to wars in which the US would beat China: US military technology is pretty far ahead of China's. I am not sure who would win a more realistic situation involving a more limited war, but what I know for sure is that it would be a terrible situation for all involved.
A conflict between the US and China would be a air/sea battle, not tanks on the battlefield. China would have a massive advantage in land based strike aircraft and missiles fired from their shores. The amount of Chinese missiles would overwhelm US missile defenses in the western Pacific and hit bases like Guam, thus taking out most land based American fighters and bombers. This would leave the US with only aircraft from carriers thus making our surface warships vulnerable to multidimensional Chinese attacks
Since there is so much toxic deadly material in China, by bombing it, there would be deadly toxic fumes that could reach the United States and the whole world, and this one of the reasons why no one wants to enter china. Too much hazard chemicals that would do more harm then good when bombing and would be nearly impossible to clean up, and who knows how long that would take. The Chinese are some of the smartest people in the world and knows what it takes to survive and though they might not understand how to live the lavish American new modernized lifestyle, they secretly know that living like that, won't survive in the long term. The Chinese implemented the one-child policy, which is horrible but one of the reasons is for survival of its overall civilization, as its population rate would have reached 2.3-2.5 billion and not 1.4 billion of today, if it didn't implement it. Meaning a overpopulation would have either, been a large natural civil war, mass food shortages and more death or disease if that didn't happen. Have anyone every actually tried to map out what would happen if soldiers tried to enter forces in China or the United States? This is because, most of western and south western China and Northern China-Inner Mongolia is little population. While most people live in Eastern China and Southern China. Meanwhile, most of the American populating is along its East Coast and West Coast and Southern United States. While the American Mid-West have little population. This means that if China would to invade the United States, most likely from the West Coast first, in an attack, most Americans would either go towards the middle for shelter, or East Coast or Canada. In China, if Americans Invade, they would move inland towards West China and Russia. Looking at the geography, China would win here, because There is no water both ways, while the United States would eventually head towards the waters after all of the forces drive out the Americans to the East Coast or Canada and eventually go on boats back to Europe or live in deep forest areas of Canada. When China wins and colonized the United States. In China, people would just move to more land into other lands of Asia. Towards more land in Russia or Middle East. Lastly China isn't just one country either it is 32 provinces, -each like a country of its own, averaging about 70-100 million people each province, with 56 Chinese ethnicities, with thousands of other clans, like dialects and languages and villages. The United States would have trouble trying to unify that, with one language, and culture, as its like trying to unify all of Europe, into one country, which is very hard and very unlikely. There is just to many differences, Civil wars and own differences is more likely to happen. It continues to happen. CHINA WINS IN THE END.
Lets be realistic, the Americans have only started its dynasty United States in 1780s- to present day. That is only 230 years or so. Some Dynasties in China have lasted Xia- 500 years and one was Shang- 600 years and another was nearly Zhou dyanasty 800 years. Both Ming and Qing Dynasties were nearly 300 years. During, the height of these dynasties, they truly believed that they were the greatest society and civilization the earth have ever seen. This how ignorant and most Americans view themselves constantly in the USA dynasty rule. Now, when the Americans do fall and lose, one day in the future, people of those times, will look back and say in history, hey remember those yanks and uncle Sam country USA. Yes. It will just be seen as an historical era. If the United States last past the Zhou dynasty in terms of years, that is 800 years or even the Japanese dynasty that lasted well over 2000 years, then we can say the Americans might be one of those great long stable countries societies. The Chinese did fight the United States during the Korean war and it ended in a draw and that was only in a small region. If the United States really thinks it can beat China, it will have to take down Russia, Iran and most of the Middle East, Parts of poor Africa and Asia that Americans don't like to involved itself in- because of the insignificance in the land, down with it. This is will become a proxy war and other players will get involved and it won't be unilateral and will become another cold war like scenario. Since, the United States will be entering or going near borders of countries that are so, complex politically, and militarily, that American wouldn't sustain taking over. Reason is, there is just so much people and cultural difference that eventually if they did take over after 200 years of war, that there would be a civil war within the United States, which would in the end, stop this china-America war. The war would be too expensive and costly for the United States.
Many Chinese experienced economic hardship and understand the difficulties of a poor country. The Chinese have seen Mao and the cultural revolution. This alone toughens up the country and will do whatever it takes to beat the United States. The geography of China is very difficult for anyone to take, There are jungles, just like Vietnam, Deserts like Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. Much of the weapons the Chinese have are very similar to the United States, since some of the military technologies have been taken from secret spies and agencies from each country. The Chinese have nuclear power, and this is Why the United States fear the Chinese, and Russians and vise versa. If its just a war where, there is no high technological weapons used, and back to the old knife, sword and arrows, the Americans would definitely lose. Heck, the Mongol Chinese Genghis Khan took over all of Asia and Eastern Europe all the way to Germany at one time. The Chinese are happy to isolate themselves one day when they are economically powerful enough again, and overtake the US. This is why, For nearly 5000 years the Chinese have isolated its country, and see anyone that isn't "Han" ethnic Chinese people, as less. So, views the world as minorities and barbarians. As any Chinese and they will tell you many Chinese people still call white people as "Gwai Lo" translate to "Ghost or Monster Man" or Gwai Paw" Ghost or Monster women" As for the war, The Chinese have way more military power in 15 times more human soldiers than Americans. Americans have never actually colonized a large region and claimed it as the United States, using it as a state, putting its flag there in recent times. They have only entered countries, enter a war, make a mess and go home.
China doesn't need nuclear parity with the US to win a war because both China and US have enough nukes to wipe out a whole nation. A war between US and China is almost certainly going to occur over Taiwan, east china sea or south china sea. These areas are shielded by Chinese missiles and remain within range of the Chinese air force and China's Gaoxin 1 satellite system which can capture the location of f22s. USA only has a portion of its power distributed in the pacific, and their bases are easily wiped out by China's DF26 missiles which can reach Hawaii
Chinese are extremely patriotic. They have been empire in the past and a well founded civilization for more than 5000 years. Their people will fight to death to defend Mother China, their determination and resilience is cultural and not motivated by any salary or payment, opposite to the values in the USA. In the vent of a World war the US army will suffer a mayor decrease on human power. A considerable percentage of their soldiers are illegal immigrants who have join the army to obtain their legal documents, more than 90% of these soldiers would run away... Their only interests is to have better opportunities in life, one thing is to take the risk going to Afghanistan, another one is to go to War against China.
And...Lets face it... North Corea, Iran and most importantly, Russia would join China... The USA has no chance... One Russian Soldier has the mindset and the military training to take on 5 or more US troops... American marines are kids pretending to be GI-Joe... By the time they realize war is real, it would be already too late...
The debt that America owes to china can support the Chinese army for decades, and if china forces the us to pay up, the dollar would fall and will not only make china the worlds largest economy , it will also make the worlds most powerful military, that's just step one, if the us is willing to ignore all the banks being bankrupt one by one, and it's angry and robbed citizens, with even more hobos than any country in the world , and still be looking for a fight, than even if china has great losses ,the us won't be able to sustain its military, while china is so populate , it can easily regain or even double its military strength in no time, so for those Americans who think defeating 2 extremely poor countrys with no technological powers USING 10 YEARS , and eventually ran out of money to support the war , and to think America wants to take on china ? If America went suicidal, like North Korea taking on America. , otherwise America will never win a war with china, except bombing little middle eastern country's
China has developed and increased its military capabilities and the US is now in bankruptcy. A war like this will represent an enormous expense of resources that nowadays the US doesn't have. Furthermore, if China, Russia or even Iran and NK are the biggest enemies why hasn't the government entered into a war with them yet?
Because times bigger army and what is more important the biggest reserves in the world China can fight against USA for a long time even with awful losses. Due to big reserves China can restore and even multiply number of its forces after even the most frightening losses. USA can not. Because China's fleet is much weaker then USA fleet China can not occupy USA territory, but it still can win the war on the continent.
First we are still fighting a war. Our economy is near collapse. Our allies are in the same boat economically as we are. Remember, only about 5% of our youth want to fight. The rest aren't interested. That is why we offer citizenship to immigrants who will fight in our military. China, has one of the largest armies on earth. I believe North Korea and Russia would join with them against us. Have you seen those big beautiful aircraft carriers China is building. One just finished 2 on the way. Oh they could collapse our economy any day if they wanted too. Must I say more? I believe this one would go nuclear. And not to make anyone mad, but the U.S. just can't win wars like they used to. Yes I know Iraq, big deal. Big old super power with tons of technology beats little nation, wow. We used to win world wars in about 4 years. Can you imagine actually taking on China?
China currently is asking the US to pay their debt not with useless paper currency, but with gold and precious metals, natural resources and real estate.
Don't believe me?
We all know America just keeps printing and flooding the economy with money.
Now to our topic, Who would win in a war between China vs US?
Currently hands down China, the American military is stretched to the limits over the years in Iraq and Afghanistan, economy is messed and stretched.
If the Chinese come to the US they will have problems because the citizens have the right to bear arms and have stockpiles of weapons, ammo and bunkers over several generations.
If the US steps foot into China, which I know they won't they would be highly out numbered and have a hard time.
I hope and prayer these two countries don't go to war, this will be WW3!
I'm Chinese and I live in Canada, no matter what happens in the US it does affect Canada.
Not looking forward to this at all.
Yes Russia, N Korea will join in.
China is more braver than usa. They don't care if they die. They can stick a gernaDE IN the pants and run up to the enemy aand blow them up. Trust me. Usa military soldiers are too scared to to put a
f*****g gernade in their pants and run up to the enemy. This is the reason why i think china will win
Because in the end we have the monster gene. The Indians called us the White Devil for good reason. We have the inate ability to become savage beasts and when the time comes can destroy all in our path. China would be a speed bump! We love death and are only pacified by our football, violent video games and hunting seasons. If the Chinese were to come over here to attack all our Bubbas wouls slaughter them as our gun stores would open their doors. Americans in general are filled with a silent violent rage just ready to be released on an enemy. Go ahead see for yourself drive slow in the fast lane duringrush hour and see what happens. No missle, gun or battleship can go up against a country this ready to explode in directed hatred toward an enemy. We have done it before and we will do it again. My money is always on America, we are a country pf psycopaths trying to be good but when given the opportunity our true self will be revealed.
The Chinese has already realize they could not win a local war with the NATO. So Chinese war strategy is mutual assured destruction. When Beijing is decapitated, the system will bomb the 5000+ nuclear bombs out to its targets all over the world including the China's own land. The river, sea tide and the air will bring nuclear fallout all over the world, by the the earth's cycling ecosystem. So the whole world will go to a nuclear winter. Asia is not the western world. Chinese believe the world without China doesn't need to exist any more.
China could beat the USA in a war because if china were to attack or invade the United States russia and most of the Arab countries and the Middle East and maybe India. A lot of other countries maybe would help out to such as North Korea. The United States may be the strongest army but it the size of China's population plus russia and the Middle East and North Korea the USA could be beat in war.
There are so many people in china and also they are so much smarter than we are, not to be to my fellow Americans but i'm just saying. I have heard that china also has modern military weapons and such so think about it, more people more guns more land.
Now is more than time to declare war on China, the longer we wait, the worse will be for us, many will die, but if US declare war today, maybe we survive what is unavoidable, but Americans don't see this, and China increases their power every single day. US must launch a massive nuclear attack on China today, not tomorrow!
By buying US debts and manipulating the dollar sometime in the near future the value of the dollar will be worthless and the US economy will collapse! If China can sustain or surpass it's economic growth 5 years from today it will be richer than most countries! To all those who say that Chinese military hardware are of low quality and numbers do not count I say learn your history. The Americans built more numbers of Sherman tanks in WW2 even if they believe that it was far inferior to the German Tiger. By out numbering the Tiger 3 to 1 the Shermans were able to overwhelm the Tiger. Imagine a lone marine being charged by 50 Chinese soldiers. The lone marine has a M4 rifle with 30 rounds and all 50 Chinese only have brass knuckles. The marine would end up killing 30 Chinese but there will 20 left to beat him up!
I am Chinese, but I will try to be not biased. The truth is, America does not have a chance beating the Chinese on Chinese soil. However, the Chinese does not have a chance at beating the Americans on American soil also. I agree that America have a much greater technology and more well equipped soldiers, but Chinese military is pretty strong also. Both Country holds a massive amount of nuclear weapons, so both country have to play safe and not bring a end to both countries. I really want to say this because it is very interesting and funny for me. The game Battlefield 4 that is coming out very soon is about America invading China. In real life, it is not possible. If China did get invaded and they are fighting a war in Shang Hai, which is almost the most important city in China, I would choose to launch the nuclear missiles and tell the Americans that you are going too far. Well, it is pretty funny to me that nuclear bombs have helped us achieve world peace, and lets hope to keep it that way.
If China attacked the UN would help out America. If America attacked first no one would support the USA unless it was for good cause. North Korea would aid and so would other countries.
If neither attacked first America would win because of its strong allies and superior military strength.
The respective technology of the two nations as far as military is concerned leans towards the USA. China has big numbers, but quality always beats quantity. America doesn't have too small numbers itself. The USA also has more experience in fighting war that is also a part of quality. The USA wouldn't stand alone either. We have many allies that would stand with us. The war would prove pointless though. No matter how you slice it, the world economy would be screwed. Not saying China wouldn't put up a good fight, just saying quality > quantity. USA has quality, China has quantity.
No they would be outnumbered by USA's western alliances
USA would be supported by many other nations. Virtually nobody of significant capability would support China. Every nation appreciates that if china gained world dominance, life would become even more oppressive than it is with the USA as number one superpower. Simply a case of better the devil you know, than the devil you don't know. China could not be allowed to defeat the USA, because if they can defeat the supposed strongest superpower, then every other nation's security is doomed.
China would be crushed by the alliance of the USA and the rest of the world. Very few nations would want China to dominate the world, because they know full well how oppressive their regime is. The world simply would not tolerate this and would go to war with China in support of the USA. Sadly this scenario could ultimately lead to nuclear war.
Any signs of significant rising tensions with China and the USA and you will have Japan and Germany re-arming, along with other nations as part of the western alliance against China. China would become geopolitically isolated and a strategic sitting duck for the rest of the world. China is a big country, but its all in one geographic region, so it's really one big target. It's in every other nations interest to form an alliance with the USA, even Russia could benefit from that.
I live in Canada and trust me i have no love for the Americans....But...There's no way China could actually win a war with the states in a military manner. Not only is the US tech far superior in every way, they have Laser guns mounted on planes, orbital defense to shoot down any and all missiles that would pose a local threat, and a stockpile of weapons that wont run out. Basically all the stuff on the movies, they have. I mean look at the weapons they actually admit to having, do you think thats their best stuff? They got some stuff their saving for a 'special occasion' im sure is very futuristic.
Sure, the american would not just be able to send troops in, they get whooped, but after they expend all chinas ammo, and level half the country, they could go in and do their bidding.
There is no country on earth that can actually challenge the U.S.A firepower in any real way. It would take several large nations to bring them down.
China cannot project force away from their shore. Usa navy is bigger, more expeirienced, more professional, the marine corps is unmatched in combat, the us airforce has the only 5th gen fighters in active duty, and has a budget 13 times larger. The us navy could sink every chinese ship
The US has 4 times more air power than China. There's no way for the Chinese Air Force to able to destroy the United States Air Force completely. It would take China more than several years for it to catch up with USAF, by that time, China has already collapsed. The United States of America is much more powerful than China in terms of nuclear power. China won't be able to catch up.
The United States of America has 20 times more nuclear power than China and has plenty of very powerful nuclear missiles that China does not have. Only the USA has the nuclear missile silo which is 14,000 times more powerful than the atomic bombs that were dropped in Japan. Meaning that one of USA's nuclear missile silos can wipe out and destroy 4 times more than half the Chinese population. The United States has at least 500 nuclear missile silos and no countries in the world ever have those missiles. No other nuclear weapons are as strong or more powerful than the missile silo. Four nuclear missile silos are just enough to blow up the whole world. Be aware that the United States is a lot more stronger than China.
America doesn't have to pay back anything. China calling in their debt would just backfire. All their tech is from America. Their planes are crap and so is their army. Every piece of equipment America has is the best in the world an for every ally they have america has one that's better. We have navy and air superiority over them and that's all we need. China has one carrier we have over 15. A war with china fixes our debt by taking their stuff and forcing them to pay war reparations if they foolishly attacked.
They may have a larger military. But we have Marines. We destroyed the British, Japanese, Germans (twice), Chinese, North Koreans and we will destroy them all over again if we have to. I hope we won't have to go to war with China though. We would both destroy them and humiliate them by defeating them with an army half their size.
We won't tell anybody how many nukes we have. But I can tell u that we have more than china can shoot out of the sky. In fact we could end civilization. We hide our power. We play weak but come back fighting. Currently and throughout history we have been fighting wars all over the world but u don't here about it. We would not only defeat china, but destroy it and embody else who wants to fight us. My answer island always will be NO!!!!!!
Sea and Air superiority would lead to massive strategic advantages that would, over time, cripple China. However, it would take a very long campaign and many many casualties before the U.S. would ever be able to control the entire landmass of China. The cost both financial and physical would be to great for either to ever enter into a head to head contest. China's best chance of beating us is to do exactly what their doing now; growing in strength by their economic success. If we don't get our act together the Sea and Air superiority that the U.S. currently possesses will be China's in 20 years.
Look at the Korean war, its like a preview to whats to come. The only difference, is the US will be fully committed instead of going half ass'd .The only way china could do any actual harm to the US is if the US invaded them first. Lets face it, were talking about the most powerful navy on the planet with 8 super carriers (which alone bring almost as many aircraft as the Chinese have in there air force) and more than 70 nuclear submarines all back by some of the most technologically advanced surface vessels. Once the US gains control of the sea and air, they could just blast the Chinese into submission with its massive bomber force (not to mention Tomahawk missiles and SLBMs). The US would not even have to send in ground forces. Plus, the US has a lot more powerful allies than China.
If a war were to breakout between the US and China right now, it would not even be close. The amount of spending the US puts into its military is more than the rest of the world combined. Even China doesn't believe it has a chance right now in a war with the US, or it would do something about the American warships sailing just off its coast. However, it knows it has absolutely no chance and so it leaves the US alone.
Despite China's population, their able military forces are inferior. Now, if you dive deeper, a war withh China would be impractical. The USA would never see inexpensive goods and China would go broke. However, we know governments are not always practical. Going out of scope of the original question, our allies would dominate our enemies from miltary to strategy.
There is no chance to for China to win since they have no actual experience until today but US has had a large amount of experience in real wars. And they cannot train themselves good enough because they are not advanced enough to think about strategy. If you look back at the history of war between Japan and China, it is obvious.
Air superiority, maritime superiority and special ops (and overall armed forces fighting experience) superiority would doom China. Also -- *if* China made it onto US soil, they would encounter 100 million gun-packing americans defending their homes. Plus the full force of the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, police at every level, and all levels and branches of the military. Good luck with that.
And I call into question our "debt" to China, given all of the intellectual property they steal from the US and -- did they ever pay us for nuclear technology, which we invented and were the first to test and use?
China is a little boy who shows off her toys ( military toys ) without trying them in actual war situations. China will be finished once Shanghai, Shenzhen and some coastal cities are damaged. It will take many decades for China to repair or rebuilt a damaged Shanghai, for example.
If a war did break out between the U.S and China it would be a sea battle
1. The U.S has The best navy in the world! By far!
2. China is very weak over sea,But if China somehow got to U.S soil then they might have a chance.
3. The U.S has to many allies in the pacific such as Australia, Canada, And maybe Japan
4. China will have a hard time projecting boats out!
P.S All you people that think the war would end up nuclear your wrong the u.N wouldn't approve of it! To fire a nuke at China or the U.S, it would need to be a world war and it wont get that far because they are two world superpowers it would be quick.
America spends much more money on military than China. Even if China has 3x as much soldiers they still wouldn't win, America's technology is much more advance and soldiers are much more trained. The US spends more on military than 10 countries combined. But if nukes are used no one wins.
China was having so much trouble trying to win a war against Vietnam. China could not even defeat Vietnam. China may have an impressive amount of soldiers but the United States of America has more military power. The USA is rank # 1 and China is rank # 3 in terms of military super-power. China has a total amount of 4,589 nuclear weapons while the United States of America has a total amount of 31,889 nuclear weapons. The Chinese navy has 1 aircraft carrier, 1 submarine, 3 super-battleships, 50 frigates, 40 patrol boats and 90 destroyers while the US navy has 11 aircraft carriers, 60 submarines, 159 frigates, 241 patrol boats, 53 super-battleships and 259 destroyers. The Chinese air force has 4, 559 aircraft while the US air force has 15, 598 aircraft. The Chinese military has 2, 100, 120 soldiers while the US military has 2, 090, 200 soldiers. China has 4, 355 military tanks while USA has 4, 600 military tanks. The lower the rank, the more powerful. The higher the rank, the more weaker. Chinese products are so old and break very easily.
If china trays to envied the us they would probably not be met with open arms and if the us tried to inlaid china well china is full of people that can be turned in to sliders it would very long and painful process and there is the matter of nukes so really all depend both country's have there strengths and weakness
We can lose wars overseas, but we can't lose a war on our own mainland. There would be an insurgency like never before seen! US is far advanced in terms of economics and technology. With 50 states, and each city and small town well developed, we are the more efficient and productive machine, whether it's economics or war, just not politically!
The U.S dominates all shipping routes in the world and can effectively cut China off from the world.
The U.S Navy is 10 times larger than all the worlds Navy's combined. They have control over the orbit of earth as well and can effectively destroy all its competitions satellites. I can't say for sure what there armed forces technology is at but I'm sure with a 690 billion dollar military budget there are probably a few things that might leave China in awe. Let's not forget that even in an economic downturn the U.S economy is still larger than China, Japan, Germany, France and England combined which are the next five successive largest economies in the world. China's trade with the United States makes up 83 percent of their exports which can be cut back to zero at a nod from the U.S government leaving China effectively bankrupt. Now I know China holds a lot of U.S debt and I'm no economist but I think it might work to the fact that owning American debt pretty much means that you own American money while this is the worlds currency all American money eventually ends up back in the U.S but what are you going to by with it if you can't import or export because all your shipping lanes are closed down and you no longer have America as your largest customer for export. I also don't believe that the scenario of war with China has not already been planned for by the U.S with every possible outcome accounted for, or at least a plan of action. China does not posses the same amount of raw materials to go to war with the U.S unless it finds an ally in Russia but that would also mean economic suicide for Russia as well not to say that they wouldn't but the end game would mean economic collapse social unrest poverty and hunger making it tough to be an effective ally as your county implodes on itself. The relationship between the U.S and China is a benefit to both countries but the United States does not need China.
The United States technology far surpasses that of China, we have far more nuclear wattle heads and general weapons. In addition our allies are far superior. We would be aided by European countries with a decent military. I think it would be a contest but no current military can compare to the United States. We have a large military good technology and a large supply of warheads.
When people talk about China's economic and trading abilities, they seem to forget that the US is the biggest buyer of Chinese goods and if the two went to war, China's rising economy would begin to plummet. And if the two where already at war, I don't think any amount of demands from Beijing would make DC pay them back.
Despite its vast population China has very little national cohesion amongst all those people, and it's armed forces are actually quite primitive in many ways, despite trying to appear otherwise. They also have no recent combat experience.
Strategically China will be contained by the Siberian wilderness and nuclear armed Russia to the north, the Himalayan mountains and the huge Indian population to the south, and the sophisticated South Korea and Japanese militaries to the east.
The present day USA is a country running on economic tick over, and they are still enormously more powerful than anyone else. Once a national emergency occurs, as it did in 1941/42 the American ability to pull together in a 'can do' way would see them surge way ahead again, and produce more of the material of war than everyone else in the world combined. The USA is the country of innovation whereas China can only copy other peoples ideas or steal them. The Chinese Navy would be confined to port by US attack submarines, the Chinese Air Force driven from the sky by Stealth fighters and long range missile attacks on its bases, and the PLA would have little to do as it has very little power projection capability outside of China. If China decided to go nuclear, they would suffer an overwhelming onslaught of Minuteman ICBM's, Submarine launched SLBM's and ALCM's from strategic long range bombers.
It all depends on where the conflict was fought, as it stands today china cant feed it own people and has to import most of its food, President Xi Jiping said that in the next five years there imports would rise to 10 trillion from 1.8 trillion in 2012. As it is we already have China surrounded (military bases all over asia) which is why they always get pissed when we carry out "excercises" in the region. China has only one soviet era aircraft carrier which they bought recently and their navy is non exsistant which is why they have to make up with it with anti ship missiles. As for the numbers that wont really matter since most of europe will side with the USA not to mention India which would even things up if not overwhelm them since india is head head with china in "numbers". We all know Russia would side with China and so would North Korea but im not sure what good that would do since russias entire population is the size of our military (this is just comparing miliraty size not technology) and North Korea is just ....Well North korea , the South alone could take them , or maybe dennis rodman could calm thing up with them. NOW if China by some miracle did manage to get troops on USA soil we would all be fucked and by that i mean the entire world because by then nukes would start flying back and forth (Russia,USA,China,India,France,UK). Now as for the whole China could cripple the USA with economics and that no US soldier would fight because they wouldnt get paid yeah you could through all of that out the window because by that point it would be either you fight or you and everyone back home is gone or speaking chinese in the next couple of years and a slave. Now do you really think the US would care if China called in its debt i mean by that point it doesnt even matter i mean your at WAR plus we could easily fimd another country to manifacture goods for us like for example Mexico, they have already started making goods for a couple of companies and im sure South America would also do it since there are many poor peiple looking for jobs. If the US one day decided that they didnt owe china anything anymore and got different countries within the Americas to manufacture goods and cut off food imports to china what could they do to US, Rember Debt is imaginary leverge when the other side is weilding all the power. China should have rethought there stradegy in asia instead of bullying most of the countries in that region by taking lands that supposedly belonged to "China", even taiwan which is officially China is on the US side.
Too many countries depend on the USA for existence. If the USA was standing alone China might have a chance, but throw in 5 or 6 other countries and China's massive force becomes quite small. Also, if history tells us anything, war is 90% strategy, 8% technology and 2% quantity of force.
The United States has 12 Nuclear Aircraft Carrier fleets while China has one refurbished from Ukraine. The Unites States has far more nuclear weapons. There are over 270 million registered firearms in the U.S. That are owned by civilians. The United States is in the West and has the Monroe Doctrine. The Chinese don't even know how to land on the moon. Lol. We've got it. When I was working in Afghanistan and we needed to look at another aircraft for a quick fix to the problem we would call it a "Chinese Blueprint." When it comes to the bottom line of defending your nation you have to look at ICBM's and the ability to shoot them down. U.S.A has got this. The Chinese would starve trying to mobilize and march. See them coming from a thousand miles away. Good thing we have all that real estate that they call Afghanistan bordering China.
First off China has a massive army and that is about it. Giving someone a gun does not make them a soldier. Training, discipline, and chain of command is what makes soldiers and China's army is poorly trained in all areas...Much like the armies of Iraq. Second, China exists on technology bought and stolen from Russia and the US. China is not a country known for innovation and it never will be. You can thank the strict government regulations on free speech and networking and such. So in reality China will never be taken seriously as a world power. Third, war with America would see the populace of China starve! China gets a huge majority of its food from the US and with American ships blocking the sea have fun starving to death China. Finally, you would see all the debt and investments that China has put into the US disappear overnight. What are you going to do about it China? I will tell you, you will do nothing, and you will like it! Just as you are told.
First off, China has a huge useless military that cannot be easily moved beyond its borders. Secondly, China's technology is mainly tech bought and stolen from the US and Russia...They have no innovative minds in that country. Giving a Chinese man a gun does not make him a soldier, it just makes him cannon fodder like we have seen in the Gulf War. Third, if war broke out China would face massive starvation due to the fact that they import most of their food from the US and would be cut off from the ocean. China would crumble so fast it is not even funny!!! Not to mention any debt the US owed China would become immediately $0...What are you going to do China? Come take your money back? Pssshhh haha please. You will do nothing, and you will like it!
China is 20 years behind in tech. Than the USA. Also we would have more allies and resources and it would be very easy to destroy China. China people would not be motivated because most of the counties people are at the poverty level. China's military training is awful and is not no where near the USA compliance.
200 or so nuclear warheads that China hold does not equal the thousands the US has in its vast arsenal. Now China and Russia know that when push come to shove the US will not hesitate to go nuke. Though it may never come to this. I do believe china knows with certainty that a war with the US would be the end of them. (MAD) its a sublime word with greater meaning to all nations. For a war with the US could bring the end to civilization as we know it.
China does not posses enough modern tech nor the military training to accomplish this task at this time. Maybe in another 20 years; the gap is still too wide. But he military gap is narrowing and China may very soon posses enough military might to cause serious disruption. And this is what the Chinese do, they disrupt the peace and tranquility of their neighbors.
China have many military personnel but lacks of training and discipline , well i would go for 10 man squad special force than 1000 china men, special force can hide then laser guided missile the 1000 china men, when it comes to airforce we have f-22 raptor Stealth air fighter and long range missiles before they can see raptor they are all dead now, and we have top gun school where all elite pilots graduate, we have more aircraft carrier than china, well if it comes to nuclear war we can counter it by Anti-ballistic missile
The USA would destroy China's surface fleet in a matter of hours. The USA would establish air superiority in a matter of days . At this point, any Chinese massing of ground forces would be swiftly cut down! Whether the USA would be on the offensive or defending, would be of no consequence. Any opponent of America risks losing their command and control ability, air defense systems and useful transportation means at the outset of hostilities. Overwhelming firepower would be brought to bare from land, air and sea, quickly turning the hypothetical conflict into a guerrilla campaign, where the Chinese could only hope for a protracted engagement that may wear down American resolve. It's considered idiotic to oppose this reality and pursue war with the USA!!!
The only way that China would win any confrontation with the US is if there is no real war declared and China turns to private economic sanctions. And even then, if the Chinese tried calling up US debt all at once, I'm sure Congress would probably pass some BS law saying that the debt was null and void and then China would be out a whole hell of a lot of money. And what would they do about it? Declare war? No way, the US would trounce them in an actual war. They'd have to eat it and show that they got taken as fools for financing our economy over the past couple decades. Sure, the US would have some tough consequences, and people would be a whole lot more weary about buying US bonds, but the US would still come out on top.
China is already borrowing money based on the assumption that the US will be good for its debt when the time comes, and if they were to default on say, the debt that they owe to Japan, because they didn't get the money from the US, then they'd have a big problem on their hands.
Defiantly no, they could try but we have a much larger navy and a much larger nuclear arsenal. They send any nuke at us, we take out 1/6 of the worlds population. They can try, they can hurt us, but in the end, they would have more casualties. Truly no one will 'win', we will simply damage the other more. We have more aircraft carriers than any nation on earth, we have more nuclear devices than anyone on earth. We have our troops near china, as we are in the middle east. We could cause the destruction of the earth.
The US could likely beat China but it would be costly. Thing is we will have naval power over the chinese, who controls the sea controls the war. This edge will be temporary because the chinese wont stop building their armed forces. Sooner rather than later. Let the war begin.
Seriously..China has people. Great. You don't think we have weapon systems that turn that strength into nothing more than a bunched up target ? We can turn entire grid squares into a smoking hole in the ground, with conventional weapons alone. We can more more people, more guns into position and move them out again with a speed and precision that China cannot hope to match. And seriously, we have been fighting a modern war with modern weapons and modern tactics for over a decade. There are simply thousands of lessons learned that you cannot learn anywhere else but the crucible of battle. The US has the highest trained, most professional, best equipped and ( most importantly of all) most experienced military the world has ever seen. The lethality of the US is currently unquestionably at its highest peak ever. There is not even a close number 2.
The United States wouldn't need to do anything all they would need to do is launch their missiles when the Chinese send their planes and ships over, It wouldn't be much of a fight at the end of the day. America is too much of a superpower to be defeated by the Chinese.
I am not Chinese or a fan of China but China has got a vast potential that it can use in war. Its really simple. China has got abundant human resource and the territory is vast thereby more resources. The communist government of China also gives an edge. I personally think democracy is comparatively not suitable for war. Besides, China is growing and is soon to catch up with US while US is at its limits. I am not an expert in modern warfare but this is my opinion.
A collision between these 2 forces would devastate the world.China is a world supplier of goods and services, and United States is a global economic power that influences most of the world.
United States has the largest military expenditures in the world.China,however, has the largest military with 2,250,000 personnel ready to fight.Even with China's large numbers, United States has plenty of military alliances to help even-out the numbers.Australia, Japan, South Korea are all geographically close to China, and can be great places to start a attack on China.
This war would most likely take place is eastern Asia, and likely not enter any other continents (although it could be possible). Chinese cities (such as ShangHai, Bejing, etc.) would probably be destroyed by United States force, most likely the air force.
Even if United States wins, lives will be lost. Let's pray this will never happen. Let's try to maintain friendlier relationships.
China is an export based nation that relies too heavily on outside investment. It has no technological innovation of its own and relies on American and European companies to fund and hire their workers. With this said, if an embargo of Chinese goods and services were to take place, its military growth would be massively stifled. Not to mention that in today's geopolitical and technological landscape, the United States remains the one indispensable power with ZERO rivals.
We are America. We have the highest spending on military and homeland defense than any other country, including China. Our technology, whether it be aerospace, R&D, or Strategic Defense is years ahead of China and will continue to be for a long time. Also, it's America. MURICA. MURICA. MURICA. HELL YEAH.
Yes, they have an impressive amount of troops but the weapons they have are from the 1970's. They did just develop a drone. Here's the thing: it is a literal copy of the U.S. drone. They cannot make their own equipment without copying other countries. The U.S. has the best aircraft in the world. The Osprey, F15, F16, F35. The U.S. has a navy that China could not even match. The U.S has better everything and almost more of everything (except for troops). All people think that the U.S. is extremely outnumbered by China (troop wise). As of 2011, the U.S had a total of about 3,000,000 troops. China had about 3.2 million. But when there is a war, many people on both sides join the fight. But, in the long run, the United States of America would win.
They cannot project sea power much beyond their own littoral. I hope they swim well. Between the dozen aircraft carriers, 40 cruisers, 60 destroyers and 70 or 80 subs of the US Navy--I don't see them getting much past Japan...If they even make it that far! I doubt their ships would make it out of their harbors. Twenty five years ago the stand off technology existed to sink the Chinese navy in Chinese rivers. I know where I will put my bet!
The F-22 Raptor is much better than anything China has, even the F-15, F-16, and new F-35 are better as well. The US Navy is vastly superior to the Chinese, they couldnt touch the US, because they would have to get through the superior US Navy, and US Air Force, not counting US Marines and Air National Guard.
If america won, most of would be dead and china would just suicide with a nuclear war. If china won then they would run out of money. America buys 80% of china's goods. But we would never go to a direct war. The war would probably be caused by or allies and their allies getting into a fight.
According to Dr. Abdul Ruff, the US can destroy the world in just hours. He backed up his arguments by using concrete facts from the figures released by the US. The US military said that they have over 5000 nuclear warheads. Added to that, the most powerful nuke these guys have is called "B53"... Which is basically 600 times more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Depends on how we approach it. We would get many, many deaths in a soldier vs. Soldier, but the U.S. Has the biggest navy, most powerful airforce, and most technically advanced army in the world. So, only way we could win is possibly a nuclear missile, or just bomb the hell out of them. And, our military would run out of bullets before running out of Chinese soldiers, so bombing, missiles, and drones would solve the problem. Plus, USA is STRONGLY allied with the top 20 countries that would choose the USA over China in any day.
It depends on the circumstance, but I don't think China is the rising military Superpower people think it is. Their army may be large, but their equipment is outdated, as they still use 1970's era weaponry. Also, their navy is almost powerless outside of their coastline, so the United States would still have domination of the Pacific. Their air force is large, but not nearly as advanced as the United States, and lacking in stealth equipment. Also, China has never entered a large, modern war. I think their lack of combat experience would make them use by-the-book tactics, a big disadvantage to their military.
China is basically feeding off the money we are giving it and without the debt we could spend the money better military equipment (and raise more money via trading). If the "all-out war" happens we would call our allies to support us and with (or without) and the unthinkable with the U.S under Chinese control we would still have guerrilla warfare to hold and if even thats not enough we have nuclear weapons
No one ever wins in a war but if China and the USA got into it, it would be bad. It would be the US's technology against China's numbers. I am not sure who would win when the dust settles but with all the lives lost and the money spent I think everyone would be the loser.