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Did Jesus fulfill Jewish prophecy (yes) or was he a false Messiah (no)?

  • Yes he did. For example, Daniel expected a Divine Messiah

    The question often asked is "Where is the Messiah called G-d in Tanakh?" Most Christians like to jump to the conclusion that in Isaiah 9:6 where (at least in their argument) the Messiah icalled by many names such as wonderful counselor, and either G-d or a god (Elohim in Hebrew does not always refer to divines). This is not my argument.

    In the book of Daniel, chapter 7 verse 13, we find a text that has carried much debate on its meaning. Daniel "a Son of Man Coming with the clouds of Heaven" (Dan. 7:13).
    When in debate, an anti-missionary often points out that this text refers to Israel, seeing it being allegorized in the same chapter. However, one of the greatest minds in all Judaism, Rashi ( Shlomo Yitzchaki) States "This is King Messiah" (http://www.Chabad.Org...
    Enable Rashis Commentary on the top of page).

    If we are to interpret Rashis words as such, however, we need to take some things into consideration.

    Before the Sanhedrin, This is the conversation between the High Priest and Jesus
    "But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, "Are You the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?" And Yeshua said "I am [ego eimi]; and you shall see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER [Psalm 110:1], and COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN [Daniel 7:23]. Tearing his clothes, the high priest said, "What further need do we have of witnesses? You have heard the blasphemy; how does it seem to you?" And they all condemned Him to be deserving of death"" (Mark 14:61-64).

    Clearly in the mind of the Gospel's author, To say "I am the son of man coming on the clouds of heaven" is blasphemy. In fact, the Talmud in Haggigah 14a records a rabbi using the context of this (Rabbi Akiva) to say that the son of man (Or David) had a throne in Heaven!

    The issue becomes very simple. In Tanakh, only HasShem comes in the clouds. He came in the Clouds on the exodus, in the tabernacle and temple, and in Psalms/Tehillim (ex. 68:5 and 104:3). Why then Does Messiah Ride the clouds? Why are there multiple thrones in Heaven (Daniel 7:9)?
    Perhaps it was this Divine Messianic complex that made Daniel so troubled (Daniel 7:28).

    Then there is another point in the text of Daniel 7:13. The Son of Man is going up to Heaven.
    Proverbs/Mishleim 30:4 asks a rhetorical Question of who has gone up to Heaven. Deuteronomy/D'varim 30:11-13 says it was HasShem. Unless this Son of Man is an angel (as some claim he is the Angel of the L-rd, another they claim is divine from verses like Sh'mot/ Exodus 23:21... But that will take up a lot of space foranother point...Also see Jacobs ladder, where Malakhim/Angels go up to Heaven ) then how can he go up to the throne room where no man is?

  • Jesus fulfilled the Jewish prophecy.

    Jesus fulfilled the Jewish prophecies that predicted he would be born. The prophets before him anticipated that a Messiah would be born who would take away the sins of the world. John the Baptist also predicted that a greater person than himself would soon be born in Israel shortly after.

  • For Some He Did

    I personally have no idea if Jesus actually fulfilled the Jewish prophecy, obviously there are some that believe he did and others who believe he was a false Messiah. All I can say about Jesus is that he more than likely lived and he more than likely preached, beyond that I have no real proof that he anything more than a common man.

  • Yes, he did

    Yes, Jesus had fulfilled all the Jewish prophesies, and he was / is the true Messiah. He was born in the predicted place, on the predicted time, in the predicted way, and in the predicted family (king David's line). That's just some of it, not all. The way he was crucified also was predicted, actually hundreds of years before the Romans invented such a form of execution.

  • Yes, but he never claimed to be more.

    Much of what we read in the Bible has been written in later after Jesus had died. He only claimed to be doing what the Jewish law and prophecy wanted, which was being a good Jewish man. He was not a false Messiah because he never claimed to be that or at least certainly not God incarnate any more than anyone else is.

  • Jesus did not fulfill Jewish prophecy.

    Although Jesus was a prophet, he was not he messiah. According to scriptures, the messiah would appear shortly before the apocalypse. Jesus has been dead for thousands of years, but the apocalypse has not come yet. It is clear that either Jewish prophecy was wrong or Jesus was not the messiah.

  • By logic he must be a false prophet

    Christianity keeps saying how Jesus fulfilled the prophecies. Well look it up yourself. Since the Torah given by god at Mt Sinai (first 5 books of the bible) says in the last book, in Deuteronomy to never add or change the Torah. (directly violated by the new testament) the Torah will be the legitimate source of the prophecies. And in it you'll see that the only prophecies Jesus fulfilled is that he's Jewish, and allegedly descendant of king David. Keep in mind that for someone to be the messiah they must complete ALL the prophecies. So where's the rebuilt temple? Were's the peace in Israel? Jesus failed miserably at the majority of the prophecies. And now looking at the so called prophecies in the books that broke gods law when they were added to gods word. Like for instance the resurrection were Jesus says he fulfilled the prophecy. Only problem is this prophecy only exists in jesuses head. Not anywhere else because he made them up as he went along. Nowhere in the Torah does god mention anything about it. So Christians believe Jesus will come back once again. To full fill the prophecies he failed. But its been over 3,000 years. Any sign of him? Nope. Christians must believe that the early Jews that turned down Jesus as a messiah must be crazy or something. But look at it at a different point of view. They went through the criteria given by god in the Torah to determine if He's the real messiah. He didn't even come close. The logic answer would be no. He did not qualify. It can only be certain who the messiah is once all prophecies are fulfilled and the person lives up to everything god said they would. And by gods word Deuteronomy 18:20 "but a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods shall be put to death." Jesus was put to death. And there's no names of any witnesses of his so called resurrection. Not even the authors of the books who wrote about it saw it.


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