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  • In todays world women have more systematic rights then men do.

    According to statistics Canada, in 2009 male suicide rates were 3x higher than of females in any age group. According to the Canadian justice department, 79.3% of full custody battles are awarded to women where only 6.6% of them are awarded to men. If a woman in a relationship happen to fall pregnant, the choice to whether or not to have the child is only for the mother. If the father doe snot want to raise the child he is scene as a "dead beat dad" but if the woman does not want to raise the child she has the choice whether or not to abort. But the father would be forced to pay child support. Men who are sexually assaulted by woman have a high chance of being denied counseling because majority of the times they go seek help they meet with woman therapists and the men are often told that they did something to deserve it. That is that same case when it comes to men seeking counseling for domestic abuse.

  • Because feminists aren't going to fight for men.

    Men have issues specific to their gender, and they need a political movement to create the societal changes necessary to have those issues addressed. Women have feminism, which is fine and good for them, but men need a gender rights movement too, and feminists have repeatedly shown that they aren't really interested.

  • 4/5 suicides are men

    4/5 suicides are men, men get raped and abused too, and can even end up paying child support if a woman raped them and gets pregnant. The vast majority of homeless people are men. 93% of workplace fatalities are men. Men are unfairly treated as creeps of they are around children. The pay gap is a myth.

  • Everyone should be treated fairly.

    Those who want true equal fairness must support fact-based issues. All human suffering matters and those who cause or ignore male suffering are anti-human, just like those who cause or ignore female suffering. Liars must be rooted out and held accountable. Heroes can't do it alone. Petty delusions waste so much potential.

  • Someone needs to combat the rampant insane feminist views.

    Feminism Is Cancer. It's destroying our way of life. Women are LESS happy now then they were 20 years ago. They are comparing themselves to men in the way men achieve satisfaction in life. They are ignoring their own biology and trying to compete with men instead of working with them for a better life for all.

  • Obviously it's needed.

    If 93% of workplace deaths were black people, we'd have no problem at all understanding that society is deeply and institutionally racist. If gay people were twice as likely to be victims of violent assault during their lifetimes, we'd all suspect our culture had some disturbingly homophobic elements. If women were several times more likely to commit suicide, we'd have no problem understanding that the world is probably a sexist, hostile and unsympathetic place for them.
    Society has a huge mental block when dealing with men's issues. This empathy gap underlies all men's issues. It makes us blind to the ways which men are — yes - institutionally oppressed. Humanity is hard—wired and culturally conditioned to care more about women than men. It makes evolutionary sense: Tribes that value the reproductive value of women more than the utility of men will always prosper more than those that have their priorities the other way around. The same kind of forces were to blame for society undervaluing women‘s utility as anything other than baby—makers in the centuries gone by. But we got past that.
    Feminism helped the world see that women are worth more than their uteri. But we still only measure men's worth by their utility. If any gender equality movement will help us see that men have value beyond their worth as mules and cannon fodder, it sure as hell won‘t be the movement that's done nothing but demonize and blame men for all the world's problems in the past century; the movement that's campaigned against father's custody rights; the movement that's currently pressing for all women's prisons to be closed, despite women already receiving more lenient sentences than men; the movement that calls it rape when a man has sex with a drunk woman, but not when a woman has sex with a drunk man; the movement that wants to put gender quotas on the top political and business positions, but couldn't care less about getting quotas on the worst and most dangerous jobs that men dominate; the supremacist movement that tells us "the world would be better if women were in charge"; the movement that still presses for more funding to be diverted to educational programs for girls and medical resource allocation despite women already doing better on both these fronts.
    Feminism will not be the movement to address men's issues. In the decades that it‘s been the status-quo, it has done nothing to help men except in ways that also help women (paternity leave is arguably a bigger women's issue than it is a men's issue). The death gap in the workplace in the 1960s was almost exactly the same as it is today. Men have never been less valued or more despised, and feminism is strongly implicated. It will take a movement that doesn't wish to eradicate masculinity from the world.

    Feminism is not about equality. The clue is in the name.

  • Obviously it's needed.

    If 93% of workplace deaths were black people, we'd have no problem at all understanding that society is deeply and institutionally racist. If gay people were twice as likely to be victims of violent assault during their lifetimes, we'd all suspect our culture had some disturbingly homophobic elements. If women were several times more likely to commit suicide, we'd have no problem understanding that the world is probably a sexist, hostile and unsympathetic place for them.
    Society has a huge mental block when dealing with men's issues. This empathy gap underlies all men's issues. It makes us blind to the ways which men are — yes - institutionally oppressed. Humanity is hard—wired and culturally conditioned to care more about women than men. It makes evolutionary sense: Tribes that value the reproductive value of women more than the utility of men will always prosper more than those that have their priorities the other way around. The same kind of forces were to blame for society undervaluing women‘s utility as anything other than baby—makers in the centuries gone by. But we got past that.
    Feminism helped the world see that women are worth more than their uteri. But we still only measure men's worth by their utility. If any gender equality movement will help us see that men have value beyond their worth as mules and cannon fodder, it sure as hell won‘t be the movement that's done nothing but demonize and blame men for all the world's problems in the past century; the movement that's campaigned against father's custody rights; the movement that's currently pressing for all women's prisons to be closed, despite women already receiving more lenient sentences than men; the movement that calls it rape when a man has sex with a drunk woman, but not when a woman has sex with a drunk man; the movement that wants to put gender quotas on the top political and business positions, but couldn't care less about getting quotas on the worst and most dangerous jobs that men dominate; the supremacist movement that tells us "the world would be better if women were in charge"; the movement that still presses for more funding to be diverted to educational programs for girls and medical resource allocation despite women already doing better on both these fronts.
    Feminism will not be the movement to address men's issues. In the decades that it‘s been the status-quo, it has done nothing to help men except in ways that also help women (paternity leave is arguably a bigger women's issue than it is a men's issue). The death gap in the workplace in the 1960s was almost exactly the same as it is today. Men have never been less valued or more despised, and feminism is strongly implicated. It will take a movement that doesn't wish to eradicate masculinity from the world.

    Feminism is not about equality. The clue is in the name.

  • Duh, There must be some kind of representation?

    As much as people like to claim that feminism is all about equality and that there should be no MRA because feminism covers them too. Lets cut the crap MOST (Not all) do not care about mens issues at all and actively undermine them whenever they can in the name of equality.

  • We need the MRM to counter feminist lies and hatred of men

    Feminists have made male-bashing a popular pastime in the west, to the point where they will go to absurd lengths to blame even the most implausible of their inconveniences on men, somehow, some way.

    We passed the point of gender equality decades ago, yet feminists continue to push for more and more advantages for women. The entire school system was re-engineered from top to bottom to better suit girls' needs & preferences, yet no one cares that the same changes greatly disadvantaged boys.

    Women are treated far more leniently by the criminal justice system at every step, with shorter sentences for the same crimes and criminal history, earlier parole and less likelihood of being imprisoned in the first place. The difference is huge: if men were treated as leniently as women, there would be 83% fewer men in prison today.

    Our society is extremely gynocentric, a fact which feminists are exploiting by lying about things like the wage gap myth to get additional advantages & benefits for women at men's expense. We need the men's rights movement to counter this false narrative and raise awareness of the facts.

  • We need the MRM to counter feminist lies and hatred of men

    Feminists have made male-bashing a popular pastime in the west, to the point where they will go to absurd lengths to blame even the most implausible of their inconveniences on men, somehow, some way.

    We passed the point of gender equality decades ago, yet feminists continue to push for more and more advantages for women. The entire school system was re-engineered from top to bottom to better suit girls' needs & preferences, yet no one cares that the same changes greatly disadvantaged boys.

    Women are treated far more leniently by the criminal justice system at every step, with shorter sentences for the same crimes and criminal history, earlier parole and less likelihood of being imprisoned in the first place. The difference is huge: if men were treated as leniently as women, there would be 83% fewer men in prison today.

    Our society is extremely gynocentric, a fact which feminists are exploiting by lying about things like the wage gap myth to get additional advantages & benefits for women at men's expense. We need the men's rights movement to counter this false narrative and raise awareness of the facts.

  • I have a headache.

    Men earn more pay. Men take up more space. Men do less housework. Men tend to dominate or interject discussions when a woman is talking if they disagree. Men are represented on TV and film to a much greater degree than women - sport, newsreaders (the anchorman and doesn't matter how old he is), leading roles, serious roles, non-stereotypical roles, intelligent roles. Men aren't raped or threatened with sexual violence nearly to same extend women are. A lot of men still do not think women are intelligent, funny, worthy and this is reflected in everyday occurrences in everyday life all too often. These are just the tip of the iceberg. I really find this debate amusing. Men whining! How about men try to empathize and listen to women before bleating on about their own 'lack of rights'? It is like white people complaining about white rights in the face of a black movement. This kind of stuff just gives me a headache.

  • Men already rule the rights of both genders.

    Why do they need a movement to continue their superiority and control of most everything? Equal pay for women for equal jobs was just shot down by an all male majority. What does that tell you? How many women are brought up on charges of violence, abuse and rape of men? I don't hear of overcrowded prison conditions in these areas for women. Somehow the thought of a 130 lb woman overpowering a 200 lb man and raping him seems a bit absurd, especially if she snags him in a dark alley.

    How many men get away without paying child support? If they can? How many men dump their existing wives for younger wives then leave those old wives practically destitute? We're not talking celebrity divorces who have more money than god and live in a fantasy world. I mean the real world of struggle most of us live in.

    I'll admit there are a few wussy males who probably need assertiveness training or therapy as they never seem to get ahead, get a date, or whatever. It takes all kinds to make a world. Now all women are feminists or pushing for what is thought of as 'superiority over men." Who drummed that one up? Women just want the same opportunities and rights that men have, men already have all the rights they need.

  • They are in control and rule the rights of both genders already.

    Women's rights to equal pay for equal work was just voted down by a majority of men, doesn't that tell you something right there? Who's in control and calls the shots at the moment? Who's trying to get rid of abortion and a woman's right to own her own body? Not women for god's sake. Men, and conservative men at that. What rights don't men have that they need a movement for? They already don't pay child support if they can get away with it. They'll dump an existing wife for a younger wife and take away everything from the existing wife so she has very little left. Those fantasy divorce cases among celebrities are not the run of the mill in real life. Men make more money, have less responsibilities if they are married or have a family. How many women are charged with beating up men or raping them? More likely women are wont to kill them for being beating up and raped so often by a husband or boyfriend she just flips.

    Are we talking of the minority of wussy men who can't stand up for themselves and don't know how to get ahead? They need their own assertive training or therapy, not a movement.

    We don't need a men's rights movement, that would be a sick joke.

  • Men need a civil rights movement like ...

    Christians need protection from religious persecution. Like white people need protection from racial discrimination. Like straight people need a sexual-orientation awareness campaign. Like rich people need to be protected from economic exploitation.

    To call oneself a "Men's Rights Activist" is the most screaming announcement of insecurity and masculine shortcomings short of two pitbulls in a 4x4 pickup truck with a "No-fear" sticker on the back window.

  • No - no need for a men's rights movement

    With research, you'll realize that the men's movement, not men's liberation, is actually ant-feminist. The believe in the importance of the male role and place in the institution concerning power. That is opposite of the women's rights movement which is about equality. The male movement tries to paint a picture of men that is oppressed and in need of remaining in its place. I disagree with this stance. I believe that men like women must find an equal playing field in society and that both must learn to play on that equal playing field together and by a new set of rules that is unbiased. So, no we don't need a men's rights movement.


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