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  • We need voices from all groups to be represented, including men.

    While I'll agree for the majority of human history, and even in most 3rd world countries the patriarchy is strong, and females have a diminished status. However, in today's society women are generally seen as equals, and are still benefitting from "leg up" programs, and laws of the past that were started to bring equality to the genders. These programs/laws in some cases have surpassed that quality standard though and started giving unfair advantage to a particular gender. Men and women should have the SAME rights across that board, but modern society gives quite a few "rights" to women that men do not have. For that reason, we need a Men's Right's movement.

  • Sexism and children

    Men need rights because they don't have any. They don't get the child and they have to give away all of their money. They are always get the bad side of child cases and they always get prosecuted different. Men also always have pressure to do good and can't stand up for them selves because of the unequal rights.

  • I am a feminist

    Some FEMS are cool with them having there own movment. There own club. Because what helps them would help us too. But the problem here is that one side is literally blaming a group of people while the other one is under a misunderstanding. The things men's right movement is for we have been helping for over hundreds of years and has benifetted men. It's like you guys think we've done nothing for you guys. We really have. The list almost Long I'll admit. But I'll name a few. Check this out FEMS been protesting for child labor laws too, with there help you guys to school. Also I think they helped in workers too. This is also big for you guys. You say your alone in the dangerous jobs...? No your not. Yes there's a big gender gap in certain fields, but where there too. In fact we couldn't get there because we where blocked from there. We also did a lot of dangerous things to in the name of good. We where nights spies for the civil war, saved holocaust babies, worked in dangerous lab experiments. Now today we fight on the front lines with you guys in wars instead of being nurses. In ancient times we hunted with you guys. We didn't just stay at home popin babies. We are also in construction too. Is there a gender gap? Yes. I think a lot of ladies are stinking to traditional gender roles by choice. That's cool it's only bad when you force it on someone. Also FEMS are cool with this. We don't hate you just the sexist ones in your group. It's the that are messing it up for you guys. We also brought on that whole let's stop with gender roles thing. Because going by that, gender roles is making you the wallets instead of dads, and women into forced moms. Oh and about that war thing about a lot of you dying in war, the early FEMS tried to stop war. They wrote letters for ideas for peace to the President. And a few other things too. Can one gender equality group. Solve all the props? Nope and that makes sense because society separated us. We couldn't even be friends without mirage envoled. Sorry for grammar #notallfems

  • We just do

    Men have no reproductive rights, so if they want kids & the woman they are with doesn't want any then they won't have any and that is not fair. The family court is way more lenient toward women, and could end up paying child support for a child that isn't even theirs. Men are treated as a disposable gender and feminism has taken men's rights away to add on to women's.

  • Yes, with exceptions

    Men and women experience inequalities, no doubt about it. However, women have feminism. So, men need a movement too. (Oh, and feminists: feminism isn't equality for both genders..) Women can't have special rights, that would be unfair.

    Something I hate seeing is the association of men's rights activism with anti-feminism or misogyny. There are always extremists who support men's rights activism like there are extreme feminists who think men should die. I feel that men need a movement, but not one that criticizes feminism or makes us look superior, rather one that reminds people that men experience inequality too. Like child custody. A lot of men lose child custody battles even though they make the money, or they are required to pay an outrageous amount of child support. Also, there's always the domestic violence example where men get less severe punishment. Must I also include the wage difference is a myth? With research and common sense you will realize that women take jobs that just pay less (like receptionist, etc.) Or they just have been on the job for less time and have not earned a raise or higher pay. For example, the GM ceo earned less than the original ceo, however under her, GM's stock price has gone down, so does she deserve higher pay?

    I really hope that MRA's start changing from being led by crazy red necks who want to kill feminists to one led by more reasonable people who just want to stop inequality. That's why MRA is associated with women hating: it's leaders like Paul Elam are complete idiots.

  • Yes, as long as it doesn't become another special interest group

    There are clearly differences in how men and women are viewed and treated in society. Some of these are unfair to women and some are unfair to men. It's nearly impossible to get a global enough view to know who is being "more biased against" (that would certainly be women in a historical sense), and the proliferation of groups for special pleading is not a good thing; but, in the short term (and it should disband once it's main goals are reasonably achieved) a movement to address some of the more serious issues that are facing men as a group would be a good thing. These would include the continuation from pre-feminist times of the role of a man in the family as being primarily financial; the unequal treatment of men in family law; and the demonizing of men that has become standard practice in media and on university campuses.

  • Isnt it obvious?

    Most boys get their penises mutilated at birth while girls genitals are protected by law. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yasmeen-hassan/new-wins-speed-gains_b_2403941.html

    Domestic violence that is committed by a woman against a man is laughed at or even applauded by many in society and is not taken seriously, even though it is quite a large problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM

    Studies reveal that men on average receive longer prison sentences than women who commit the exact same crime, even when both have similar criminal records. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html

    Men lose most of custody battles, only winning about 15% even when the woman is clearly unfit to be a parent. In cases where fathers do challenge for custody, 60% of them will be accused of child sexual abuse as a tactic by the mother to prevent him from getting it. If he does win custody, he can than be accused of domestic violence committed some time in the previous 12 months, which stops him from getting the child until he can prove himself innocent. If he does prove himself innocent, or it was found that he defended himself when the mother attacked him, then he cannot have custody because that’s still considered domestic violence against the mother. http://www.answers.com/Q/What_percent_of_women_win_child_custody_cases

    There is overwhelming evidence that the death penalty is employed against men and not women. Only 32 women have been executed since 1930 while 3,827 men have been executed since 1930. http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/students/groups/oslj/files/2012/03/63.1.streib.pdf

    That is only a portion of reasons why men ARE oppressed. We need mens rights movements.

  • Isnt it obvious?

    Most boys get their penises mutilated at birth while girls genitals are protected by law. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yasmeen-hassan/new-wins-speed-gains_b_2403941.html

    Domestic violence that is committed by a woman against a man is laughed at or even applauded by many in society and is not taken seriously, even though it is quite a large problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM

    Studies reveal that men on average receive longer prison sentences than women who commit the exact same crime, even when both have similar criminal records. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html

    Men lose most of custody battles, only winning about 15% even when the woman is clearly unfit to be a parent. In cases where fathers do challenge for custody, 60% of them will be accused of child sexual abuse as a tactic by the mother to prevent him from getting it. If he does win custody, he can than be accused of domestic violence committed some time in the previous 12 months, which stops him from getting the child until he can prove himself innocent. If he does prove himself innocent, or it was found that he defended himself when the mother attacked him, then he cannot have custody because that’s still considered domestic violence against the mother. http://www.answers.com/Q/What_percent_of_women_win_child_custody_cases

    There is overwhelming evidence that the death penalty is employed against men and not women. Only 32 women have been executed since 1930 while 3,827 men have been executed since 1930. http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/students/groups/oslj/files/2012/03/63.1.streib.pdf

    That is only a portion of reasons why men ARE oppressed. We need mens rights movements.

  • Society is blatantly sexist against men.

    Domestic violence is perpetrated equally, yet laughed at or even applauded by many in society when committed by women against men. Ray Rice gets swatted twice, spat on and then lunged at by his then fiance (now wife), he fights back with one strike while she lunged at him and the repercussions are that he loses his job, gets called every name in the book, has leaders of feminist organizations (NOW) calling for the commissioner of the league he plays in to resign and no one says a peep about the fiance initiating the violence, nope she is just a poor little victim, even when she acknowledges that she was responsible also, society just wants the man to pay a price and to treat the women like a child, a helpless victim. This is completely unacceptable, amoral, unjust, unfair and unequal. Society ended the mans career. This really bothers me. If anyone swats me, spits on me and then lunges at me, you can be damned sure I am going to fight back. I would be absolutely justified in doing so, however, if that person is a woman,......

  • Yes I feel we do

    I keep hearing from people who oppose a men's rights movement things like "these guys are just upset about being losers", or like someone posted on the opposing side, "need to go to assertiveness training classes". Well, let's be honest, a very large segment of men today (good, honest, loyal, loving, HARD WORKING men) CAN'T live up to most women's sexist, old world views of what a man is supposed to be. Women and their roles in society were allowed to change with the new age, it's time we extend the same courtesy to men.

  • Men already rule the rights of both genders.

    Why do they need a movement to continue their superiority and control of most everything? Equal pay for women for equal jobs was just shot down by an all male majority. What does that tell you? How many women are brought up on charges of violence, abuse and rape of men? I don't hear of overcrowded prison conditions in these areas for women. Somehow the thought of a 130 lb woman overpowering a 200 lb man and raping him seems a bit absurd, especially if she snags him in a dark alley.

    How many men get away without paying child support? If they can? How many men dump their existing wives for younger wives then leave those old wives practically destitute? We're not talking celebrity divorces who have more money than god and live in a fantasy world. I mean the real world of struggle most of us live in.

    I'll admit there are a few wussy males who probably need assertiveness training or therapy as they never seem to get ahead, get a date, or whatever. It takes all kinds to make a world. Now all women are feminists or pushing for what is thought of as 'superiority over men." Who drummed that one up? Women just want the same opportunities and rights that men have, men already have all the rights they need.

  • They are in control and rule the rights of both genders already.

    Women's rights to equal pay for equal work was just voted down by a majority of men, doesn't that tell you something right there? Who's in control and calls the shots at the moment? Who's trying to get rid of abortion and a woman's right to own her own body? Not women for god's sake. Men, and conservative men at that. What rights don't men have that they need a movement for? They already don't pay child support if they can get away with it. They'll dump an existing wife for a younger wife and take away everything from the existing wife so she has very little left. Those fantasy divorce cases among celebrities are not the run of the mill in real life. Men make more money, have less responsibilities if they are married or have a family. How many women are charged with beating up men or raping them? More likely women are wont to kill them for being beating up and raped so often by a husband or boyfriend she just flips.

    Are we talking of the minority of wussy men who can't stand up for themselves and don't know how to get ahead? They need their own assertive training or therapy, not a movement.

    We don't need a men's rights movement, that would be a sick joke.

  • I have a headache.

    Men earn more pay. Men take up more space. Men do less housework. Men tend to dominate or interject discussions when a woman is talking if they disagree. Men are represented on TV and film to a much greater degree than women - sport, newsreaders (the anchorman and doesn't matter how old he is), leading roles, serious roles, non-stereotypical roles, intelligent roles. Men aren't raped or threatened with sexual violence nearly to same extend women are. A lot of men still do not think women are intelligent, funny, worthy and this is reflected in everyday occurrences in everyday life all too often. These are just the tip of the iceberg. I really find this debate amusing. Men whining! How about men try to empathize and listen to women before bleating on about their own 'lack of rights'? It is like white people complaining about white rights in the face of a black movement. This kind of stuff just gives me a headache.

  • Men need a civil rights movement like ...

    Christians need protection from religious persecution. Like white people need protection from racial discrimination. Like straight people need a sexual-orientation awareness campaign. Like rich people need to be protected from economic exploitation.

    To call oneself a "Men's Rights Activist" is the most screaming announcement of insecurity and masculine shortcomings short of two pitbulls in a 4x4 pickup truck with a "No-fear" sticker on the back window.

  • No - no need for a men's rights movement

    With research, you'll realize that the men's movement, not men's liberation, is actually ant-feminist. The believe in the importance of the male role and place in the institution concerning power. That is opposite of the women's rights movement which is about equality. The male movement tries to paint a picture of men that is oppressed and in need of remaining in its place. I disagree with this stance. I believe that men like women must find an equal playing field in society and that both must learn to play on that equal playing field together and by a new set of rules that is unbiased. So, no we don't need a men's rights movement.


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