Absolutely, women have the right to an abortion and men should too. As a woman I find it despicable that we as women have fought so hard so that we will not be forced to be mothers if we are not ready or able but the same right isn't given to a man. Any woman that has a child without the consent of the male should be criminally charged. Forcing anyone against their will to be a parent is wrong.
I was with a woman who is now 2 months pregnant. She left me a week ago and is already back with her ex girlfriend. She used me and pretended to love me just so I would get her pregnant for her and her girlfriend to have a baby. Now does it seem fair that I should be forced to support a child when I was just being used?
Should be regarded as illegal and should be considered a serious offense. Sure accidents occur, but when someone purposely deceived someone else it some be regarded as a crime. If a man were to force a women to get pregnant without her consent it would be regarded as a assault, or rape.
Your your partner does not want to take the relationship to the next step it should be his/her choice.
If woman have the right to choose their reproductive future.Then men should too. How many woman poke holes in condoms or stop taking the pill to have a child without the Mans consent? Think of the amount of men that have no SAY over their OWN reproductive future. If it wasn't permanent, I would get a vasectomy until i wanted children.
If a man will also be involved either emotionally and or financially, He has a right
Childbirth is a serious matter for any individual. In this day and age children are usually accidents, thats a shame. Currently there is no legal action that a man may take should a partner decide to abort and embryo or a fetus. So if an accident is born, the male is required to incur expenses for decades, yet if woman are equal to men, they should not be able to make these decisions alone.
A man should also have a say in what he wants. For the woman to deceive the man to have a child is no different than a man forcing a woman to have a child. The woman already made the decision to have a child without the man's consent so the man should be able to force an abortion without the woman's consent.
A man should have the right to force the woman he impregnated to abort, as long as he bears the abortion expenses. I think it is unfair that a man has to be financially responsible/pay child support to a child that he didn't want in the first place. If women can avoid birthing the child, men should have the same right too.
Though I must question what sort of deception the woman used that could have been prevented by the man if he wasn't stupid. Regardless, yes, the child belongs to both parents, and so both should be present for the decision about what to do with the child. If the father is unfit to raise him, and believes neither is the woman, then he is in full right to call for an abortion.
Well so a man has to live with the choice that the women made to have the child and they don't stay together, the women runs to the court house and files for child support for a choice that the women made. Where is the justice here. She should be responsible for her actions. So there goes a big loop in the system, how many millions of baby are born this way. God we need a better way to approach this and the courts or justice is not working.
By deceiving the man when getting pregnant, the woman is essentially stealing the man's sperm and DNA. She has no right to utilize that DNA for any purposes without his consent, and it is only just that men should then be allowed to force her to get an abortion if he so desires.
My husbands ex girlfriend we can call her, told him she was on birth control. She however, was lying. She was separated from her soon to be ex husband at the time. My husband DID use protection. She became pregnant, he advised that he did not want that commitment with her, he did not want a child with her.... She decided she was keeping him... Stated she'd raise her own son. NOW, she decided that was too hard and my husband is now paying child support for a child that was supposed to be prevented but because one party lied my husband, self & child are all feeling the pain. Its women like this who give us true ones a bad name.
Why should a female have all the right to bring a child into this world, asumming support by sexual partner not willing to commit to outcome of this act?
If it's her body then take full responsibility of what it does. If you are poisoned you would apply some method to remedy that. Males should not be fathers if they don't want to be.
If she want to keep the baby, she shouldn't be forced to get abortions. But she also shouldn't have the right to force him to be a daddy if he asked her to get an abortion. She shouldn't be able to keep a baby he didn't want and force him to pay child support when he didn't support her having the child in the first place. Isn't that the sole purpose of CHILD SUPPORT? I could understand if he wanted the baby and then failed to support the baby once it's born, but come on....I thought this was America: land of the free. What happened to equality and justice for all???
In instances where the man wants to keep the child, it is solely at the discretion of the mother to be if she will terminate. And if she does decide to do so, there is nothing that he can do. Yet, in the same note, a woman can choose to keep the child in which the man does not want, and he still be required to support that child. In either sense, ALL rights are given to the woman to decide if she will keep or abort. The man has no say so. But, without that man a child could not be conceived in the first place. If she chooses to keep the child, I believe consent should be taken from both parties which would hold them financial liable for their decision. If she chooses to keep the baby without his consent, she has waived the right to hold him financially liable. And vice versa, if she is pregnant but does not want the baby and he does, he should have the right to keep that child with her having any financial obligations.
Men should also be allowed to decide if they want a child or not. It's unfair that only women can make such a big decision. For not to mention that the man will be forced to pay for the baby every month for 18 years, and that alone give him a right to decide. It is also bad for the child to grow up with divorced parents.
It is a criminal offence to obtain property by deception. And my sperm is my biological property, its one thing to lie to someone to maybe get the bigger piece of the pie, but to criminally obtain biological property by deception should be treated as a serious offence. I've just had my biological property stolen and the woman is still lets say " young minded" with no solid career already in place and not financial set up to provide good care for the baby or its educational future. Where does she get the right to decide to put a child through a life of "less fortunate" opportunities and happiness knowing the child will be fatherless?! I think that is a selfish coward dog act! And is it fair for the male (that's had his property stolen in the first place!) to be also robbed of his rights over his own property? Simply we need the laws reformed, and have the right over our biological property.
Yes, men should be able to have the same rights as women do when it comes to parenthood. If a man is not physically, mentally, and/or financially able to support a child then he should not be forced to. It goes the other way too. If a man DOES want a child and the woman does not, then the man should have the right to parent the child. Just because the woman has to carry the child doesn't mean men should not have any say whatsoever. It takes two to make a baby so it should take two to make such a decisions.
The man should have rights, as well as the woman. The man and woman should decide if the woman may/may not have an abortion. It's not right if a man has no rights when it involves his un-born child, the man should have 50% of the rights as well as the woman having 50% of the rights.
It is wrong to bring children into the world without a man's consent. It is also wrong to bring a child into the world only for financial gain. Women who do this are selfish. They use their pregnancies as extortion and they use children as bargaining tools and they also do damage to the children's self esteem with baby momma drama that usually happens after the child is born. I know that sex is between two consenting parties, however many women will lie about birth control, or sabotage condoms, among other things to intentionally get pregnant. In addition, many women will manipulate or become verbally abusive to these men while they are pregnant. And then some of them wonder why men don't trust them.
I was trapped by a stupid selfish woman. I feel I would have been within my moral right, if not legal, to walk away and have no contact. Unfortunately, because I have a moral compass, I didn't. Children need fathers, regardless of what airheaded selfish women think. If parenting is a joint endeavour, and the law sees it as such, then men are entitled to have a say.
Women get to decide for the men, not taking into consideration that the men might not be ready to be parents or do not want to be parents or might not have the financial stability to be parents. Yet, the law backs women up under the pretext of ( Is the womans right to do what they want with their body). IF ONE OF THE PARENTS SAYS NO TO HAVING A CHILD IT SHOULD BE A TERMINATED PREGNANCY BY LAW.
Men are forced to pay for and rear the child if the child is born. Either on the hook for child support or in other ways. Men do not have equal rights with women. Men should be allowed to decide the same way women can decide. Whether the answer is for or against abortion.
A baby is the joint custodial obligation of both the father and the mother. Yes, she has to carry that baby around for 9 months. But, after than nine months, the man has to take care of that child for 18 years. If a woman is planning on taking care of the child, raising it without the man at all (I mean no child support, no visits, no contact whatsoever) then she can choose to ignore his request for abortion. BUT if she wants any of those things, then she must respect the request. If a man didn't plan to get a woman pregnant, and he in fact took precautions against it, that is a clear indication before any consensual sex that he does not want a child at this point.
I can't even keep count of how many men I know have been lied to about the woman being on birth control and stupidly trusting these women, all of a sudden they get pregnant.
I know one guy who ended the relationship with a woman because she was obsessive and clingy and he wasn't feeling it. A few days later she calls and says she's pregnant, he feels guilty and goes back and it turns out she didn't actually get pregnant until 2 wks after he went back. She had lied about being pregnant and since he thought he didn't have to use condoms any more (shes already pregnant)... She obviously went off birth control. Of course she refused to have an abortion. He left anyway and resents her to this day. Trapping a man by getting pregnant never works. Yes the man should have a legal say in whether the pregnancy goes ahead or not.
I noticed the use of "force" in question. I am replying yes only to the basic gist of the question. No man, or woman, has the right to "force" anything of the sort. A woman reluctant to abortion is just the same as her "forcing" the man into parenthood. What's the difference? Realistically, we cannot bring every single couple facing this dilemma into court for an official to decide. I cannot even conceive of a way to equate the decision of both partners, let alone decide who gets to abort.
A woman has all the say and the man has none. A man needs equal say. A woman can trap a man into having a baby but a man can't trap a woman. If either one doesn't want it, it should be anyone's choice to abort. Fair is fair. Anytime you're using a condom I guess you could say you ended a possible life.
If a woman can have an abortion without the fathers consent, he should have the right to force an abortion if its not his desire to have the child. Women are so caught up with having a baby usually for various selfish reasons ( financial support,wanting to trap the man, loneliness,"clock ticking", or just wanting to be a mother). Women should consider the future of the child's well being whether or not the woman is financially stable, The dissolved stable family structure without both biological parents should be taken into consideration. It is not always best to bring a child into this world where emotional scars of abandonment or lies will hinder the child's psyche. There are too many single parent households because of unprotected sex and what one side of the equation thinks is best. WOMEN, find a man that wants to be your child's father.
Although a man may feel like he was deceived, it does not give them the right to force another to abort a fetus. In this day and age, condoms are more reliable and, regardless of what she claims her birth control to be, he still holds some responsibility in the situation. No birth control is 100%, due to every woman's body being different. The only real basis a man would have for such a claim would be if there was a contract drawn up stating that if the woman got pregnant, then she would have an abortion. And, the likeliness of that is somewhat ridiculous. It's just as ridiculous as forcing a woman to have an abortion, even if she was deceptive.
Abortions should be allowed to all women because they have the basic right of controlling their lifestyle and their own body. Because when women fall pregnant, it’s not always planned. Some women will have the baby because they were planning with their partner that they wanted to go through pregnancy. But for other women and teenagers, it could be the worst thing they could do at the time. A child is not east to look after and they require a very big responsibility. Some young teenagers are not ready to take on that responsibility when they find out they’re pregnant, so they have an abortion, which is perfectly safe for them to do. Abortion is really the best solution in this situation. It saves having to worry about looking after a baby that needs full attention, while at the same time you are trying to look after yourself, as you get older.
It is a woman's decision whether or not to carry a child. Unfortunately, men do not have many rights when it comes to this issue. Including the fact that they have no rights to stop an abortion if the woman deems it necessary. It is not physically their body that is or is not in jeopardy. It is sad that we as human beings have to make such difficult decisions; however, the one sure way to avoid such a decision is to abstain in the first place. I do feel, however, that the man should have a right to "sign off" on the child. If the pregnancy came about because of a deception the man should have no legal obligation to provide for the child. There should be no order of support or financial requirements.
The man would have input on this, particularly if he were deceived. The baby is, however, a product of the man and the woman. The female has as much decision-making power in this scenario as the man (perhaps more since she is carrying the child). The couple can discuss an abortion, but the man cannot force it.
No one has the right to force a woman to have an abortion. It's her body, and her choice - ONLY her choice. It's a huge decision to have an abortion, and no one should make that for her. The fact is, when people have intercourse, there is always a chance that pregnancy may occur. So whether or not she got pregnant by "deceit", the man already knew that it could happen.
Regardless of one's views on abortion, it is a medical procedure, and we do not allow any one person to force another person to undergo unwanted medical procedures. For a man to force a woman to have an abortion, whatever the reason, would be not only a violation of her body but also of her human rights. It is not his body, so he should not have control over what is done to it.
No, but by the same token he should not be held responsible for providing financial support for the child as long as he can prove that he was deceived. But if the woman is willing to assume responsibility for the child, then she should be allowed to carry it to term. I think this should be put in writing with a contract to absolve him of this duty too.
No man ever has the right to "force" a woman to have an abortion. Being pregnant is an action that effects the woman's body and she should have sole control over medical procedures that effect her body and her unborn child. If in fact the woman got pregnant using deception then the man (father) should be allowed to renounce his parental rights and have no further legal obligation to support the child or mother.
There are no circumstances in which a person should be able to force another adult, rational person into any medical procedure, much less an abortion. Whether he was deceived or not, the man chose to have sex with her without using birth control, so he knew pregnancy was a risk. Moreover, the fetus is at least as much the woman's as it is the man's, and he should have no unilateral right to destroy it.
A man does not have the right to force a woman into having an abortion when she got pregnant by using deception because it is irresponsible. Pregnancy and having a baby should be discussed first, and both parties should be on the same page about it. If not, use a condom or another form of reliable birth control.
While it would be unethical to lie to a man in order to get him to impregnate you, allowing men to dictate the terms of an abortion seems like a wildly irresponsible way to address this situation. If a man is not happy about a woman lying to him to create a pregnancy, he could choose to disown her, rather than terminate the pregnancy. Defining "deception" would be highly subjective, and it could lead to situations where any man not happy about becoming a father could decide the woman has no right to become a mother.
If the woman deceived the man into getting pregnant, then the child should be solely her responsibility. If the man wants nothing to do with the child, he should give up his parental rights and move on. At the end of the day, it is the woman's body, and her choice on whether she wants to continue with the pregnancy.
A man should never have the right to force a woman to have an abortion, under any circumstances. If an abortion is to happen at all, it should always be the mutual decision of the two partners. But in the end, the decision is ultimately up to the woman, and nobody should be able to force her to do anything against her will.
No, it's her body.
But it shouldn't prevent it being found as a reason the man is not responsible for paying her child care. Tough to prove it in court...use a rubber, guys. And if the kid doesn't have your DNA, you shouldn't be found responsible, either.
The woman who deceives her partner to get pregnant has done something wrong. A good case can be made that the man in such a case has no obligation to support the child. But that possibility has no bearing on whether he has a right to demand that the woman obtain an abortion. Yes, she has gotten pregnant through manipulating him. But he has no more right to demand abortion than he would had she been using birth control that simply failed. In either case her pregnancy occurs in her body, not his. How she treats it from this point forward is and must be her decision alone. Any other decision violates her autonomy in the most profound way. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Even if a woman deceived a man into getting her pregnant, he still does not have the right to force her to kill her baby, which grows inside her. A woman may be deceitful, but the man has sex with her of his own free will. (If he was forced to have sex with her, which in most cases is not possible, then criminal charges should be bought against her. But, he still should not be allowed to demand that a baby be killed.) When a man has sex he has the opportunity to do it as safely as possible. And, as long as he is having sex with a woman, he knows that the possibility of pregnancy is always there. Pregnancy is the risk that he takes.
The mental effects of having an abortion can be devastating. According to my research, woman who have had abortions suffer from extreme depression due to the guilt of having killed an unborn child and not given a human a chance to live. Abortion poses grave risks to the mother during the operation because of the possibility of complications. A torn cervix or perforation in the wall of the uterus could leave the woman unable to have children later in life.
Anytime a man has sexual intercourse with a woman, the chance of pregnancy is a real issue whether the woman or the man claims it is impossible. Once the pregnancy occurs, only the woman has the right to decide to have an abortion as it is her body and her emotional and mental state that will suffer a lifetime if she makes the decision to abort.
No. But he should not be required to pay child support.
An abortion is horrible and extremely traumatic to a woman who has motherly feelings towards her child. It is a horrible crime to force her into that.
But she should not have lied. She can keep her child, but should find other ways to financially support herself and the child.
In such a situation, he can have the right to leave her; he does not have the right to force her to kill her child whom she wants.
The actual mechanics of forcing a woman to go to into a clinic and to terminate her fetus or child, even if she wants, is difficult to imagine. It'll never become law (my state barely allows abortions as it is, so hell would have to freeze over for this to ever happen). I'm also reluctant to believe that there are many women out there actively deceiving men into getting them pregnant. Perhaps, I'm wrong, and it happens quite a bit (although men deceive women a lot into having sex with them). Nonetheless, a man is as responsible for birth control as a woman, and one of the potential consequences of sex is pregnancy. If you do it, you just have to prepare for the consequences.
That being said If he was deceived by the woman I don't think he should be responsible for the child. But in the real world many men would try to get out of it once they decided a kid was to much trouble even if the woman's pregnancy really was an accident. That's why you should never assume you can trust your sexual partner with birth control. If (as a man) you always wear a condom the odds of here pretending she's still on the pill to get pregnant working are very slim.
I believe it would be wrong to force the woman to abort the child. HOWEVER, I believe the father should not be required to be responsible for the child (pay child support, etc) assuming he was legitimately deceived into this situation when he had tried to take all preventative measures.
There is an innocent party here and that is the developing fetus. Once the child is conceived, the concern should be for the child.
The Bible says, "Thou shalt not kill."
He agreed to have relations with her. It is known that all birth control methods are less than 100% effective. There might have been inadequate reflection on the man's part before having relations with the woman.
The man and the woman involved should forgive one another.
The man needs to take his responsibilities from the outset and use a condom.
If that method fails he needs to stand by his partner and support whatever decision she wishes.
If he wishes for her to have the child he should make that clear however not push his will onto her if she feels different about it.
I think too many men are viewing abortion as an easy solution to an unplanned pregnancy, similar to the morning after pill. It is not the same! It's an invasive procedure with risks. As soon as a woman become pregnant, her body is flooded with hormones that affect not only her body but her mind....It's a lot more real to a woman than a man. I highly doubt many women want to "trap" a man...Child support in many cases barely makes a dent in the costs involved in raising a child, especially since the mother usually has to work and pay child support. Most single moms I know are struggling and only chose to keep the baby because they couldn't bring themselves to abort, not to spite a man. You guys are asking way too much of women and shirking too much responsibility. If you sleep with a woman and coldly demand she abort after you got in this situation together....Just to absolve yourself of financial responsibility....That is cruel.
The choice is the woman's because she is the one carrying the child. Abortion is traumatizing enough without being forced. If the woman wants to keep it, let her keep it. Similarly, if the woman wants an abortion, she should have the choice to have one. All power is in the hands of the woman.
Abortion is just as complicated as child birth so only the person who is dealt such options should be able to make a final decision. The man should have not let a woman deceive him if that's the case. Its about time that men would start thinking with their brains and not what's between their legs.
For centuries women have lived according to a mans desires. It's only been a few decades since women have achieved higher education to gain financial independence, option of various birth controls and option to have a legal abortion. A man has no right to tell a woman whether or not to have a baby. Birth control does fail. While it is morally wrong to trick a man into pregnancy a man should also take his own precautions if he does not want to father a baby with the wrong person. A man has a choice at the time of sex to wear a condom and dispose of his swimmers to avoid theft of his sperm. Women have fought for too long for rights to many privileges that a man has always had a right to. Women are in charge of their reproduction period.
Unless she literally forced him to have sex, he still made a choice. Part of being a man is accepting that, if you choose to have sex, it could result in pregnancy, no matter how careful with contraception you are and because it is her body, you don't have a choice over what she does. If this really bothers a man, he shouldn't have sex with her.
Being a woman has several downsides, including the possibility of becoming pregnant to someone who refuses to support your child. Not being able to control what she does with it is one of the few downsides of being male. We don't get a choice about everything in life because life isn't fair. Simple really
A woman should be free to choose to raise a child however in doing so with a reluctant father the mother should have to waiver all of the fathers responsibilities towards the child. The woman has the final say and that is what matters. So if she chooses to keep it she also chooses not to get support from the father.
No man should be allowed to force a woman into an abortion. Accidents do happen - no form of contraception is 100% safe as we all know. It's a woman's body and fetus that we are talking about here so it is ultimately her decision as to whether she undergoes a termination.
That said, as the law stands in the UK, a man currently has absolutely no say in an unplanned pregnancy which is a little worrying considering that if the child is born, the man will have a legal obligation to that child for 18 years - whether he wants to or not. I don't know the answer - perhaps the family courts could rule on limited liability to the father if he doesn't want the pregnancy to go ahead, but there should be absolutely no way that a woman should be forced or pressured into an abortion.
It takes two to tango and there obviously wasn't much precaution taken to prevent the pregnancy. But my biggest argument is that not only does an abortion kill the innocent child but it will effect the mothers emotions for the rest of her life. Men don't feel the emotional attachment to a pregnancy like woman do and I have experienced this first hand. I had an abortion at 16 years old. Yes, I was far too young to be having a child but it broke my heart and soul. When it came close to my due date and I realized what I had done I fell into a deep, dark depression. I stopped eating and sleeping for nearly a week and my grandfather had no choice but to have me placed in an institution. It took them nearly a month to get me some what back to normal. To this day it is the only thing in life that I regret and I will urge any woman with doubt to say no to abortion.