I am a male Caucasian of average height for my age. I am even a little short. What would you say if I told you I was 8 feet tall? If you were in your right mind, you would think I was either joking or a lunatic, a candidate for the "funny farm". What would the liberals say, however, if I told them I was a woman? They would cheer me on as a true pioneer and try to bully others in submission to my ideals. This is hypocrisy. Why are they fine with me switching gender on command, but not with me changing my species, or my height, or my skin color without any connection to reality. Come on, people!
There are 2 biological genders and that's it. All of the "other" genders are based of "gender roles" or being a homosexual. You have a dick or you don't that's it. I couldn't care less if you are gay or lesbian. Congrats you ruined everything sjws why do I even try to debate with you guys.
Look, gender IS directly related to sex.
The only reason I can see gender was ever even thought as something separate to sex was probably because of transgenderism, which of course involves, changing from ONE GENDER TO THE OTHER.
I suppose you can say a transgender individual has become the other gender, but biologically speaking they have the same DNA.
All these other genders are just personalities given names. They are all based on the roles we see in the two genders.
And also, gender roles are NOT A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, at least not entirely. Things like pink being a girls color sure, but there is a biological reason for most of the differences between male and female. Males are viewed as stronger because statistically the average male is stronger than the average female.
Even if gender is entirely a social construct, society as (nearly) a whole agrees there are 2 genders, so you still have one or the other gender in that social construct.
By saying you are some other gender, all you have done is add more confusion to our society, you do not have to make up a new gender to act different from the norm.
If you go to the doctor, and he asks you if you are male or female, and you say like bigender or something, he is going to laugh at you. I'm sorry but only YOU care about your made up gender. You're allowed to have one, but you should not expect any recognition of it or to get it entered into legal status.
This is the first post I have actually made onto this site, so criticism for how I presented the argument is especially welcome.
I am aware I basically just threw together some short paragraphs without a clear structure to it.
Luckily, science and human biology does not care about people’s feelings. You can live in your childish delusions all you want, but at the end of the day, you are either male or female. Period.
“But what about transgender individuals?”
This is how Social Justice Warriors usually reply. This one is always a fun one to deal with, because by implying that there are more than two genders because transgender people exist, they are pretty much admitting to themselves that they don’t think transwomen are “real women” or that transmen are “real men.” After all, if people are whatever gender they have transitioned to then how exactly does that break the “gender binary?” Whether you are one of those people who believe that people are whatever gender they transition into or you are one of those who think people are whatever they are born as and that changing your gender is impossible, the point still stands. At the end of the day, that person is still either male or female.
“But….But…….But gender is whatever you identify as!”
Nonsense. If gender is whatever you identify as, then gender is irrelevant and nonsensical. I am yet to hear a good reason why what someone “identifies as” is relevant or important in any way. In a debate about the existence of God, if a theist states that he identifies as God, does that mean he is God and God is now real? If a student identifies as a someone who graduated summa cum laude, is the university obligated to give him that honor? This type of thinking isn’t permitted in any other form of discourse, so why would we permit it here?
“Gender is a social construct.”
Incorrect. Gender is entirely biological and based on genetics. You might be thinking of “gender roles,” which are something completely different. If your counter argument here is to inform me that gender differs from sex, I don’t have to necessarily disagree with you to tell you why you’re wrong. Fair enough. Let’s say that the current definition proposed by certain social scientists is true and that “sex” is whatever is between your pants and “gender” is what is in your brain/what gender you feel like. At the end of the day, your genitals aren’t a social construct, and neither are your brain waves.
I do believe that it is okay for a human to change their gender from male to female or female to male, so long as they pledge to their life decision. There are animals in nature, such as clownfish, who can change their gender. I don't think Humans, with their advanced biological capabilities at hand, should be limited. We can achieve everything that other animals can using technology, so why should gender be an exception? It doesn't make sense, however, to fabricate gender. It seems that these non-binary genders lie in the blurred lines between femininity and masculinity. There are, however, feminine men and masculine women who don't claim to belong to a fabricated gender, meaning it is not necessary to associate a new gender with these people who act more like the opposite gender. It seems more like those who claim to belong to a new gender are only doing so to seem interesting or unique, or to belong to some movement and feel special, and say "oh, I was a part of that movement!"
If I say I'm a dragon, am I a dragon? No. Your opinion cannot change facts. If i say the sun is green, it doesn't make the sun green. Transgender is not a gender. If you are a man and then have surgery to become a woman, you are a woman. You are transgender, yes, but but that isn't your gender it's just a name for what you've done to change yourself.
Gender is Biological. Not sorry to break it to you. I'm fine if ur trans, I don't care, but don't give me the "infinite gender" bullcrap. I understand that you don't sand the bad connotations that come with being make or female, you don't need a new gender, we just need less gender roles.
Look why would you consider transgender a gender? It is literally the act of going from one gender to another. For example, as a man if I were trying to become a woman I would not want to be excluded from woman by being classified as a transgender and/or trans-woman. I would want to be considered as equal as possible.
Despite the fact that the terms "gender" and "sex" have two different technical meanings (one referring to biological; one to societal standards) people need to realize we can't accommodate every single special snowflake. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. So, there are 2 genders ONLY because the purpose of any other is none. We were put here to reproduce and those without functioning parts can't get this job done.
I'm trans and people who identify as a "3rd gender" embarrass me. Also I know this isn't what the question asked but it somewhat relates; You have to have gender dysphoria to be transgender, and gender dysphoria is a mental illness. The people who say there are more than 2 genders tend to say that being trans is normal too, but wtf no honestly I don't think I even need to go into why it's not normal.
I think the person on the "yes"-side of things, has been misinformed. Sex and gender are two different things. Sex is what genitalia you're born with - not how you feel, and is therefore objective. Gender is how you feel, gender is subjective.
Agender/non-binary and bigender are all genders, to name a few. In case you don't know what they are, I'll explain it to you. If you're agender, you feel that you have no gender - that you're genderless. Bigender is when you fluctuate between genders. One day, you may be a boy and the next a girl.
People used to say being gay, was a choice, and completely ruled out bisexuality and pansexuality. Now, we're accepting of it and know it's real. I feel that the same will happen with gender soon.
I, however, do not understand why this is a topic that needs to be discussed - even if you disagree with it. It should be no business of yours what people do and don't identify as.
You create your own identity.
Saying a person can't be bigender, agender or androgyne is like saying they can't like a certain genre of movies, or that they can't like a particular food. Just because you don't understand it, it doesn't mean it doesn't' exist.
Gender is subjective, and therefore there can be as many genders there need be, to make everyone feel comfortable in their own skin.
I'm genderfluid and my gender fluctuates. People are ignorant and afraid and that is the simple reason as to why the majority see such a beautiful, complex feature of the human mind to be fake. Do you have any idea how many fucking times I've been called the wrong pronouns or name and have to live in this body that isn't mine. I want a body that can change when I want it. Would you rather I lived the truth or died?? People of different genders outside of the gender binary receive so much hate when they just want a safe place to express themselves. EVEN AT SCHOOL, a safe place, supposedly, sticks with the gender binary. When a teacher tells all the boys to go on one side of the class and the girls on the other, where do I stand? Outside the fucking classroom.
There are many other genders lets take transgender for example why would it have the word gender in it if it wasn't an actually gender and you also are not thinking about the aliens and shit they will come to earth blasting our ass we cant defend against that shit what if we said they didn't have a gender we would be fucked
I have to X chromosomes and i call myself a binocorn. I feel like these people now adays are such ignerate conservitives that should be wearing a nazi arm band and should be linchd like a black people was in the civil war.I have a degree in lesbian boi and a masters in multi gender fluent studies and should be listend to all the time
Yeah, you're born as a boy or a girl, that's not what we're talking about. The truth is that there are multiple different genders. Ok? If there were 43527278 sexes, we would probably have a probablem. There are several genders, as in, trans-male, trans-female, hermaphrodite, and others. K? It's not the same as sexual preference which is gay, straight, bi, ace, and others. There aren't too many genders, but that doesn't mean that you can't be... A... Person with... Um... You know... Both. Your born one way, but later in your life you might want to be a X, so you'll get an operation to become an X, and no longer be a Y. It's complicated, and honestly, I think both sides can get WAY out of whack sometimes, so just don't be a douche. Respect people's opinions and feelings, and that should apply to both sides of the argument.
Gender is defined by FAO as the relations between people, both perceptual and material. Gender is not determined biologically, as a result of sexual characteristics of either women or men, but is constructed socially. And we all know that there are no longer just men and women today. There are trans, lesbians, gays, bisexuals. They are still the same in terms of body structures, so many do not regard them as new people having genders other than 2 traditional ones. Plus, most people still cannot accept homosexual relationships, which is among the reasons why a big number of people do not accept other sexes.
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Aye leave these niggas alone shit Niggas A duck can be a gender i am classified as a potato so im straight and my gf is a sex machine thats a mf gender so shut yo ugly ass eat Mcdonalds all day having ass cause yall niggas dumb saying there is only 2 genders
The definition of gender is the state of being male or female and it has a synony to the word gender and that is sex look it up it's true and stop luring to yourself
I cannot believe In What you guys say until u show me proof of this concept
Sex is to do with your chromosomes and genitalia, and the sex you were assigned with at birth. Gender, however, is how you see yourself and what you feel you are inside. Some people think it's a mental disorder, which I understand because if genders and transgenders are explained incorrectly or they aren't given education, then it can look like a mental disorder, because of the misinterpretation. But really, having a gender is just what your mind suits and what you want to identify as, and there are definitely more than just two genders. There are also technically three sexes, counting hermaphrodite as some people are born with deformed genitalia and not male or female genitalia. Though I'm not sure if that counts as a sex. But I mean, some people can be so blind and think being gay is bad or even having a gender is immediately a mental disorder just because they disagree. Get some LGBT + education and stop hating, ya melon-heads. XD