The God of the Bible is know to be kind and just. Heck, He died for us. Seeing that He is omnipotent and all-knowing, I am in no place to question His motives or His actions. He killed thousands? Well, that was justice for their evil ways. He destroyed entire cities? Justice. Did something I don't understand? Who cares? My mind is infinitely less powerful than His. He is kind, just, all-powerful, all-knowing, and omnipresent. He deserves to be worshiped
If there is evidence for ALL of mankind then why not worship Him? He has done so many wonderful things! I don't see how His creatures reject Him and refuse to accept Him as their Maker? It's very absurd and cruel especially since what He has done for ALL people! He came started everything with just His Words! That is SOO powerful! And then He took the time to make the creatures; man and woman.. And they populated the earth within so many years and now there are so many people today! God has given life and yet people willingly take it for granted as to say they don't care or don't like the idea of someone being in higher rank to have control. We live in such a messed up place now all because of SIN! Sin was the cause for the fall in the beginning and sin has progressed even more. Sin is what kills us everyday physically and spiritually. Without God we are nothing and can do nothing! Without God we don't have life or meaning! Without God we have no purpose or reason! Thanks be to God that He thought of us when Jesus (God's Only SON) came as 100% man and 100% God being 200%equally perfect together! Jesus lived a perfect sinless life.. But because of sin, OUR SINS put Him on the Cross.. To pay OUR debt that we so deserve.. He took God's full cup of wrath to pay OUR debt! Did He have to do that? Absolutely not! But He did this because He loves us! And if we all would just repent and believe this Gospel we may saved, given life and made wholly in Christ! And truly worship Him for who He truly is because He does exist!
The God of the Bible does exist & I proudly worship Him. I don't expect everyone to follow my faith, or understand it. I would, however, appreciate some respect for it. But I suppose others may feel the same way about their religion.
I don't have to see an atom to know such things exist. Long before ultrasounds, women knew they were pregnant without seeing their unborn child on a screen. You cannot physically see love. Still, love exists. And I know that God exists. I know what He has done in my life. I know the hurdles & darkness He has gotten me through. I don't have to see Him, touch Him, etc. All I need to know is that He is God and believe in Him. And I do.
God does exist. Also whats up with all the religion debates, religion forum posts, religion everything. What motivated people to attack this subject. Why not Obama, the nations debt, or other bills that Congress passed. Why religion. I've seen it in more debates and forums than anything else. Would someone explain to me, how did all organisms came from one cell, and where did that cell came from? Did it just magically appeared. It's impossible. It doesn't make sense, unlike God and the Bible, it totally makes sense.
In the Bible God tells us that His Son, Jesus Christ, came to Earth and died for our sins. He came to die a horrible death on the cross. He died for us who are sinful, even though He was sinless. Think about it this way. If you were told that you were going to die, because of a crime you had committed, such as murder, and you knew that you deserved to die, yet someone came and offered to die for you. What would you think? You would want to bestow on them everything you could and hem glory and honor. Jesus did that for you on a much bigger scale. How much more glory and honor should we give Him? He is worthy of all worship and praise!
Jesus is the son of god. Why wouldn't i believe in him? He is a god of love and mercy and he knows me from my favorite TV show to the number of hairs on my head. Why wouldn't I worship someone who conquered death and who loves me enough to know all of this about me. He is God in the flesh. That brings me joy just saying that
I would not worship Him only in personal prayer and by going to church, I would worship Him and thank Him with my actions by living the life that he called me to live. I would love my neighbor, even my enemy, as Christ loved us. I would thank Him for everything I have been blessed with in my life including the blessings I have received by putting my faith into the many promises He makes throughout the Bible. I would thank Him and worship Him for the miracle of His Son who came down to Earth as God made flesh. Even though God knew that we would crucify Jesus, He gave Him to us so that we all might be completely forgiven of our sins because he loves us so much and wants us to be worthy of standing in His presence, even though the Bible says that we all fall short of the glory of God. Understand that when the Bible was written, giving scientific proof of God would have proven His existence as humans did not have that kind of knowledge back then. Thus we would be forced to believe in God and not have free will. There would be no reward for choosing to follow Him and have faith in Him. The proofs of God in the Bible are the moral truth that you have to put faith in to see if they really are true. That and the fact that the Bible was written by dozens of different people from different times, cultures, and civilizations spread out over a 2,000 year period, many of whom claimed to be writing the direct words of God Himself. The Bible is also 1/3 prophecy, most of which have been fulfilled. No one has ever denied the accounts of Jesus and His followers who spread the Word of God throughout the Roman Empire in a single generation. There really was a man named Jesus who was crucified under Pontius Pilate after His people accused Him of claiming to be the Son of God. All He had to do was drop that claim, but He chose crucifixion. Yeah, God cares about your sex life, what you put in your body, even what you think about. Why? Because he wants your marriage to be as meaningful as possible, your life to be as long and healthy as possible, and your heart to be as pure and open to accept His truth as possible. God loves all of us more than we can comprehend, and we don't even need to understand why on this Earth, just to accept His love and forgiveness. Hell isn't a place where demons eternally torment you in fire, it is where you are fully aware of the magnitude of your decision to alienate yourself from God, who can grant you eternal life with Him. Holy Spirit fill those who seek Him with His truth and love. God bless. Jesus saves. Jesus lives.
It says in Genesis that God made woman from taking a rib out of a mans rib cage. It is now factual that men have one less rib than woman. SO BAM. There is a God and that is only a fraction of the endless amounts of proof. (but why wouldn't you believe in God? All he is is good and helpful, it makes no sense to go against him, and as of following him, you've got nothing to lose)
A lot of people (out of ignorance) blame God for the evil events in this world caused by satan. Satan is a deceiver. He is deceiving the 56% of the people that answered 'no'. Even satan believes there is a God and he trembles. I don't understand how someone can quickly dismiss the existence of God due to their reliance on science. Even the king of science himself (Einstein) admitted that he himself cannot dismiss such profound possibility: "Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds". So my question to you (atheist) is: how did you, with your limited knowledge, come to the conclusion that God does not exist?
It is impossible to think on things that do not exist. The ability to think of things increases the possibility exponentially of their existence. We can't say that airplanes didn't exist before the wright brothers, because the wright brothers were trying to build an airplane (that worked). I put parenthesis around that to emphasize they had a realistic goal and they were capable of building it which meant planes existed and the wright brothers had the ability to build it.
Justin Graves has posted two hypotheticals based on the same premise, which is the Christian God: “If the God of the Bible truly existed, would you worship Him?” and “If Christianity was proven to be true, would you believe it?”
He then states that the God of the Bible is known to be kind and just, which is blatantly false. I need only site one Biblical event that proves that God is neither kind nor just: God caused the Great Flood that murdered everyone on earth, even babies, except for Moses and his family. An all-knowing and all-loving and understanding God would not do that.
All religions are based on fear and the promise of a better life if you just bow down in submission to a make-believe (i.E. Man-created) deity that is omnipotent. The Great Flood Fairytale was created by tribal leaders to scare members of the tribes into believing in God and to following the rules of the tribe.
Justin counters that was because of their evils ways.
Justin how did babies have evil ways?
Justin is just spewing more fanatical Christianity justifying their murdering God. And, of course Justin counters with the standard Christian caveat, God’s mind is greater than man’s; therefore, man cannot understand why God’s murdering of innocent babies was not murdering but part of God’s grand design.
Justin is a faithful little sheep, who will surely enter the gates of heaven on judgment day, whenever that day is supposed to happen.
Then Justin spews more Christian nonsense with the standard statement: God is kind, just, all-powerful, all-knowing and omnipresent; and, because of this, God deserves to be worshiped.
These concepts have been debated ad nauseam in Philosophy; and all have been debunked.
The only proof that God exists is Faith. That is, you either have faith that God exists and believe in him or you don’t have faith and don't believe in him.
If Hitler rose from the dead, said he was God, and wanted to be worshiped, would you do it? I wouldn't. God is worse than Hitler.
God killed the entire world with a flood (even though we know it didn't happen). Women, children, infants, ect. God ordered the death of children in 1 Samuel 15:3, Ezekiel 9:6, Exodus 12:29-30, Isaiah 13:15-18 and more. Many apologist websites actually justify infanticide! Which is just sick. God allows forcibly taking wives in Judges 21:10-24, Numbers 31:7-18 and other verses. Do you really think after their fathers, husbands, brothers, and little sisters were killed the women would just go willingly?
The God of the Bible does NOT deserve my praise.
No matter whether it's the New or Old testament bible we're talking about, the God portrayed therein is essentially the same, just with many references to miracles that could actually be seen and scientifically observed removed from the New. Either way, this is the same being who, apparently, created the universe that we now live in, gave us 'Free Will' and chooses to punish us/'allow us to be destroyed' if we actually utilize that free will in any way other than the exact, no-free-will path he 'saw fit' to lay down for us. If he existed, and he actually did have every trait he was depicted as having in the bible, I could honestly find no other ethical recourse but to deny him completely; to refuse to worship such an unethical being, and to attempt to use my free will in ways that he couldn't have foreseen so as to have it's use actually be meaningful. To do otherwise would be to essentially abdicate all genuine morality and responsibility and allow who and what you are to be dictated by a being so far removed from humanity as to be incomprehensible. The concept of 'God' shown in the bible, and *actual* Free Will, are incompatible, and Free Will is much more important.
I think if God were to exist, if you look at values promoted in the Bible or the Torah or the Quran, he would probably want us all to focus on helping others and making the world a better place. So, I would rather spend my time out in the real world helping people and using my talents to improve the world, than simply staying in a church in an attempt to get brownie points.
I'm Agnostic... Which basically.
I'm neither arrogant enough to believe there is nothing out there that may be beyond my ability to comprehend that works against or even manipulates Physical law.
Am I self-concerned enough to think that if one being did create everything in the entire universe ever, he'd give a flying f*** what I do on Sundays, what i eat on Fridays, what kind of facial hair I have or even who i have sex with.
1. If a Biblical God truly existed, it would obvious that He wants us to believe and worship in him, as stated numerous times in the Bible that when we don't, he gets really mad and causes people to suffer. (I then beg the answer as to why He doesn't just make me in a way that I sincerely believe in Him.)
2. Since I do not want to suffer, I will worship him out of only fear.
3. Since worship out fear is not considered sincere in the Bible (I think this depends on your interpretation), I will have no ability to sincerely worship God.
4. I will have no ability to sincerely worship God because I see him contradicting Himself, causing pain, and displaying mental weakness all through the Bible.
5. While it could be true that my consciousness may be infinitely lesser than said God, and that I will have no ability to comprehend God's ultimate goodness if he is good, I ultimately base my decisions on my ability to reason, not out of fear.
6. I ultimately base my decision out of my ability to reason because one's ability to reason (other than to blindly follow or synthetically follow, AKA brainwashed) is the only way to sincerely believe in something when not brainwashed.
7. I am not brainwashed in such a way as to sincerely believe in God, as God has mysteriously decided that I be not.
8. Therefore, no, I will not sincerely worship Him, unless He somehow brainwashes me to, which he has failed to to at the current time.
This is a much better phrased question by justin.Graves, and I hope my insight has helped him understand how most legitimate non-believers think.
I don't worship anyone that plays with people's emotions and destinies and says that it's all just so one an prove his or her love for him. I would never give up my family just to prove my devotion to some horrible being who want sto make sure that i believe in him.
The Judeo-Christian god is described as a homicidal, genocidal, tyrannical, psychopath. A childish despot who throws a tantrum and breaks all his toys when the game doesn't go his way. Considering the vast amount of violence, murder, intolerance, discrimination, and hatred in the bible it amazes me that ANYONE worships that god.
God (adjective with a small g) god is a metaphor for something we see all around us. God has been invented before modern thought and science came into being. There is not one shred of evidence that any god ever existed. If the case was to come to court it would be thrown out as being completely unacceptable on the circumstantial evidence. Everything about god being the creator is complete nonsense.
God on the one hand is supposed to have made the creation and then created man and all the living things. He would have had to make the universe too. Unfortunately there is a problem with that theory in as much as it cannot be proven. It is a concept and nothing more than a concept. The concept (a myth) has caused more hate and war than anything else in the world and if god did exist he would be completely furious that the creation is being messed about with by fanatics and nasty men running around with beards. (Dont they just look so stupid?)
Religion and anything associated with it is a faith based mind-bending exercise designed to keep people working to a system - and that means subjugation. Anything that requires the manipulation of minds away from free thinking is highly suspicious and I hate anything to do with the god concept.
I have never liked the idea of worshiping "God". I would never "bow down" to anyone or anything. Why should I, What has he done for me that he deserves me to not like him but actually waste my time worshiping him. I still hope I wouldn't worship him if he was real.