If the scientific community defines a single celled organism, such as bacteria, a living being, is it not reasonable to give the same status to a human embryo at the moment of conception?

If the scientific community defines a single celled organism, such as bacteria, a living being, is it not reasonable to give the same status to a human embryo at the moment of conception?
  • Bacteria are living things - but they have no rights.

    Bacteria are living things - but they have no rights. Industry sells dish washing soaps and other products that intentionally kill 99.9% of bacteria they come in contact with. If a bacterium-rights advocate was to take any of these companies to court, he would almost certainly lose because of the potential danger posed by these tiny organisms. A human embryo is a living thing but as some have already explained, they are not self-sustaining and require a uterine wall to attach to, in order to begin developing an umbilical cord to obtain sustenance from the mother during the fetal stage. You should understand that an embryo therefore cannot survive independent from the mother.

  • Yes, but this is not a question of science, because science does not deny that.

    There is no question or scientific denial that a fetus is a living being. So this is a societal and political question, not a scientific one. The question of abortion is very difficult and should be handle on a case to case basis. In case of rape, the woman should not be forced to carry the child. If the child cannot be reasonable cared for, wouldn't it be better not to be forced to life in misery all its life? People that oppose abortion should talk to the women who plan for them and offer to adopt the child. Both sides would be help. Again, the question was not scientific. An embryo is a living being.

    Posted by: SteChiquita
  • A human is more commonly classified as living than a bacteria no matter the stage it is in.

    I really believe that a human is living, no matter what stage it is in, and thusly should be classified as such. A bacteria, something people kind of know as living but doesn't come to mind first when thinking of living things, is classified in this category, so a human being from when they first came into being should also fall into this category.

    Posted by: 5h4m4m3Anto
  • What I believe

    Listen to yourselves...
    "I believe" "I think" "I feel"
    You are arguing your opinions as fact

    Lice eggs turn into lice
    You can get something to kill the eggs, oh and we do because we know if we dont , there will be unwanted lice everywhere.
    An embryo or fetus we all know, if we don't intervene, will eventually become a baby.
    All fact based logic.
    This debate is really about "what do I have to tell myself to convince myself that I am not a piece of shit?"

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    For those that are complaining that the embryo is fully reliant on the mother for survival or cannot reproduce on its own and therefore cannot be considered alive, think on this. Take a newborn baby and place it outside by the side of the road. It will die because it will not be able to exert sufficient homeostasis or adapt appropriately to allow it to survive. And yet no one would consider calling a newborn 'not alive'. Equally it cannot reproduce because it has no mature sex organs but that does not preclude it from our definition of life

  • A unique, developing, organism

    Considering what we know due to the wonders of modern science, it is perfectly logical to consider an embryo a human being, and protect it as such. From the moment of conception there is development that is ordered. Others simply dismiss it as "a clump of cell" even though every living, complex organism is a clump of cells. There is not only order, but it has unique genetic code, it takes in food, produces waste, grows and develops, etc. It fits the definition of life and resistance to protecting it as a life is strictly political.

  • Well why wouldn't it be

    It is still a human weather it be in a womb or in a classroom. It is still moving, breathing, eating, reproducing (it's cells reproduce. If you try to say that it doesn't count because it can't reproduce tell that to a ten year old girl whom can't reproduce. Or a 20 year old woman), and it has cells so....

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  • Yes, they are both "alive"

    But the zygote is not a life. There are 7 characteristics of life and a zygote does not meet a few of these criteria. Bacteria do meet all 7 of these criteria, so they are a life (though humans value bacteria differently than a human zygote). But is it alive? Yes. It has the ability to stop growing, therefore die. So yes, it is alive, but it is not a life.

  • It's fair to say

    Yes, it is fair to say that this is true considering an embryo the moment of conception really isn't much. Not to say a child isn't much, but after all an embryo is not yet exactly a child. You can call a baby in the womb many things, it can even be argued that a baby could be considered a parisite. Now this may seem like a bit of a stretch, but the baby benifits of the mother while the mother has no bennifets to this transaction at all.

  • Fetuses and embryos do not meet the scientific definition of "alive"

    To meet the scientific definition of "alive," an organism must do all of the following: be made of cells, obtain and use energy, grow and develop, respond and adapt to their environment, and reproduce. Fetuses/embryos do not reproduce, so they are not alive.

    Posted by: EmmeAnguris
  • A living being must be able to survive on its own to be considered "alive".

    I believe a living thing must be able to survive on its own. A single cell of bacteria sustains its own existence. However, the embryo, at the moment of conception, cannot survive without the housing of the mother's womb. At a certain point, the fetus can be removed and can survive outside. But, before that, it cannot be considered a living independent creature.

    Posted by: SpikyWesley
  • Bacteria are self-sustaining; Embryos are not.

    Since a human embryo cannot survive on its own, I would not consider it a living being. In addition, does anyone here have memories of themselves at this stage? The biggest problem with the whole abortion debate is that it hinges on the idea that the embryo is alive. It isn't. The same people that claim human embryos are alive would also claim that insects and bacteria ate not alive. In addition, the idea of making laws telling a person what they can and can't do with their own body is ludicrous. In my opinion, I think the whole abortion issue should be completely handed over to women. Make it where only women enable politicians can come up with policies on the issue and where only female Americans can vote on it. It's not an issue that should involve men; they are not the ones whose bodies this is affecting.

  • An embryo may be "life," but it is not "alive."

    A clump of human cells does not make a human being. A blood stain, a fingernail clipping, or more to the point, a sperm cell, is not a human being. No organs, no organism. A gamete, a zygote, a blastocyst, an embryo, these are stages of development that precede a human being, but none of them are human beings. Cut a lock of hair from my head, it will have my DNA, but there is no connection between that and my rights. Furthermore, a bacteria has no rights, simply because it is alive - human status requires at the very least a brain and nervous system, before or after that exists, you have human tissue, human cells, human DNA, but not a human being.

  • Does not meet the criteria

    Organism - An individual living thing that can react to stimuli, reproduce, grow, and maintain homeostasis. It can be a virus, bacterium, protist, fungus, plant or an animal. - http://www.Biology-online.Org/dictionary/Organism
    A fetus fails 3 of the 4 criteria to be described as an organism .. Especially in early term.

    1. It does and cannot react to stimuli
    2. It cannot reproduce
    3. It cannot maintain homeostasis

    The fetus only meets the growth criteria, but so do your fingernails.

  • Technically, embryos do not fit the scientific criteria for life.

    First of all, they have not developed any reproductive organs. Second, they do not respond to stimuli. The individual cells do not yet even have a specific function. The individual cells might respond to some stimuli, but the embryo as a whole does not. It is more like a colony of unspecified cells just hanging there, and cells are not quite considered living organisms. There are single celled organisms, but they are almost always prokaryotes (bacteria). Plus, most people don't care about single celled life. Otherwise, people would be considered to be committing mass genocide every time they washed their hands. Even multicellular organisms, such as flies, bees, and mosquitoes, all of which are far more advanced than the embryo and are all considered living beings, are killed off en masse without so much as a second thought. What makes the embryo better than a mosquito? Hell, what about rats and mice, people kill them all the time without a second thought, and they are mammals with complex brains, and they can think! If you can tell me that an EMBRYO, a collection of perhaps 100 to maybe a few hundred or a thousand unspecified cells, is somehow better than that rat or mouse, then I pity you for having an iq below 50. No offense, but if you consider an embryo as being better than a mouse or rat, which can actually FEEL and even THINK, then you must be insanely stupid. You might say, "no, just religiousĖ. My reply to you would be, "what's the difference?". You still believe the embryo to be somehow superior to the mosquito, or even the mouse or rat, with NO supporting evidence, so you are STILL insanely stupid and irrational.

  • I do not believe the status of a living being should be given to a human embryo at the moment of conception.

    I do not believe that the human embryo should be given the status of a living being at the moment of conception. While this moment is the beginning of growth I do not believe that until there is a heart beat and brain development that a human embryo can be considered a living being.

    Posted by: SlayrKalle
  • They do not.

    Fetuses/embryos do not constitute life at the moment of conception nor for some time afterward, no more so that your blood, or your arm, or a tumor, or your heart.

  • Is a single cell really living? I don't think so.

    There are simply too many variables that go into the development of anything beginning at the first cell to consider it living at that moment.

    Just like the theory of natural selection, survival depends on more than simply being the strongest. There always seems to be a bit of luck involved in whether or not a bird's first attempt at flight allows it to launch successfully from the nest or crash into the ground. The same with the journey of turtles, penguins and numerous other animals. Impact from an animal's own species is a common barrier to survival.

    How we as humans determine life is a tricky question, but because technology and science allows us to increase the odds of survival, does that mean we have caused life to exist sooner?

    Posted by: OmeroAnnon
  • In a banal sense, the embryo is alive; but this observation hardly ends the argument about its status or that of abortion rights.

    While an embryo is alive, whether it deserves to be considered an organism is open to legitimate question, since at least early on in pregnancy--apparently unlike bacteria--it is incapable of surviving independently; more broadly, to provide a legal definition of the embryo seems to be a pretext for interfering with the most fundamental autonomy of an unquestionably living person, the woman inside of whose body the fetus is living. Furthermore, even if it were agreed that an embryo is an organism, it would not follow that it had the right to use a woman's body without her consent. So it seems unwise to seek to establish a legal status for the fetus, because the underlying abortion controversy, and the case for a woman's full personhood and autonomy, would remain.

    Posted by: M4I4cFeIine

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Quan says2013-06-20T15:29:22.927
Bacteria does not have rights. We sell products that proudly advertise killing 99.9% of them. Also, it's self-sustaining. When a fetus can be separated from the mother and grow independently, this argument against abortion may make a little more sense. Also, I don't think when a fetus was alive was ever in question; it was always about when it should be considered an individual person and awarded human rights, and to what extent those rights should limit the rights of the mother.