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  • Switzerland is a great example of a mix of socialism and capitalism.

    100% capitalism will fail, we need a good mix of mostly capitalism and some socialism.

    By having good welfare and social support infrastructure, with capitalist motivational systems on top. Countries like Switzerland and many others prove this is the method.

    Rand Paul and Libertarians in general believe that everything should be privatized, which is an even worser idea than the ideas proposed by Socialists.
    I like Rand Paul, but libertarians are couldn't be more wrong. If he is a true libertarian, he will not receive my vote.

    There is not one developed country in the world that is "Libertarian". The government needs to control the infastracture and continue to give welfare.

    Switzerland is a great example of this. We do need less government and taxes, but not "no government" like the Libertarians propose. If you like "no government", go to Somalia, the government there will do nothing for you.

    Switzerland, land of the world's best healthcare, also one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

  • All developed societies have a mix of capitalism and socialism.

    100% capitalism will fail, we need a good mix of mostly capitalism and some socialism.

    By having good welfare and social support infrastructure, with capitalist motivational systems on top. Countries like Switzerland and many others prove this is the method.

    Rand Paul and Libertarians in general believe that everything should be privatized, which is an even worser idea than the ideas proposed by Socialists.
    I like Rand Paul, but libertarians are couldn't be more wrong. If he is a true libertarian, he will not receive my vote.

    There is not one developed country in the world that is "Libertarian". The government needs to control the infastracture and continue to give welfare.

    Switzerland is a great example of this. We do need less government and taxes, but not "no government" like the Libertarians propose. If you like "no government", go to Somalia, the government there will do nothing for you.

  • All developed societies have a mix of capitalism and socialism.

    100% capitalism will fail, we need a good mix of mostly capitalism and some socialism.

    By having good welfare and social support infrastructure, with capitalist motivational systems on top. Countries like Switzerland and many others prove this is the method.

    Rand Paul and Libertarians in general believe that everything should be privatized, which is an even worser idea than the ideas proposed by Socialists.
    I like Rand Paul, but libertarians are couldn't be more wrong. If he is a true libertarian, he will not receive my vote.

    There is not one developed country in the world that is "Libertarian". The government needs to control the infastracture and continue to give welfare.

    Switzerland is a great example of this. We do need less government and taxes, but not "no government" like the Libertarians propose. If you like "no government", go to Somalia, the government there will do nothing for you.

  • All developed societies have a mix of capitalism and socialism.

    100% capitalism will fail, we need a good mix of mostly capitalism and some socialism.

    By having good welfare and social support infrastructure, with capitalist motivational systems on top. Countries like Switzerland and many others prove this is the method.

    Rand Paul and Libertarians in general believe that everything should be privatized, which is an even worser idea than the ideas proposed by Socialists.
    I like Rand Paul, but libertarians are couldn't be more wrong. If he is a true libertarian, he will not receive my vote.

    There is not one developed country in the world that is "Libertarian". The government needs to control the infastracture and continue to give welfare.

    Switzerland is a great example of this. We do need less government and taxes, but not "no government" like the Libertarians propose. If you like "no government", go to Somalia, the government there will do nothing for you.

  • All developed societies have a mix of socialism and capitalism.

    100% capitalism will fail, we need a good mix of mostly capitalism and some socialism.

    By having good welfare and social support infrastructure, with capitalist motivational systems on top. Countries like Switzerland and many others prove this is the method.

    Rand Paul and Libertarians in general believe that everything should be privatized, which is a terrible idea.

    There is not one developed country in the world that is "Libertarian". The government needs to control the infastracture and continue to give welfare.

    Switzerland is a great example of this. We do need less government and taxes, but not "no government" like the Libertarians propose. If you like "no government", go to Somalia, the government there will do nothing for you.

  • It's Not Only Good, It's Essential.

    Public education is socialist and more of that is critical. As has already been pointed out, shared services like police and fire, but also health care, food, clothing and shelter are essential even for those who cannot pay. We must endeavor to be self-sufficient, but we must also endeavor to help those who are less fortunate. Yes, there will be the greedy and the lazy who are happy on the teat of the welfare state and we should weed as many of those out as possible - but not at the expense of those truly in need, through no fault of their own. Without socialism, capitalism was a dismal proposition - there was a LARGER gap between rich and poor 100+ years ago than we have today.

  • Why not both?

    From the pragmatic perspective, both systems have abundant advantages and disadvantages. Historically, numerous theorists have contemplated and recycled economic ideas of either side. The American standard is not about ignorance and not just about freedom. It's about progress in ALL fields, and success for those who truly deserve it.
    If it's too big to fail, it's too big to exist.
    The needs of many outweigh the needs of the few.
    Supply-side economics doesn't work, and puts too much faith in the people who are most likely to be greedy, and have the greater capability to abuse their power even under the law.
    Socialism may be a slander and a scar for some 20th century countries, but it has obviously worked for nations like Denmark and Sweden, and if we teach children to be responsible and honor righteous principles, they won't abuse entitlement opportunities.
    If we get our minds out of the gutter, away from fundamental idealism, and towards utilitarian practicality, we can make America the best nation in the world again for all of the RIGHT reasons.

    P.S. If "your business" can be thoroughly proven to be destructive for the future and/or present, not towards yourself but for other people, it's entirely our business. Don't abuse the freedom you didn't earn.

  • Capitalism + socialism = China's bursting economy.

    The new concept of globalization is: to have a capitalist economy with a free market, which is already a pretty good idea. Now mix that with a socialist, hard-working society like the Chinese have always been known for. The result? Just google "Chinese economy" and you'll see it for yourself.

  • Yes - and we already have it

    Most modern nations have a mix of capitalism and socialism. The US hasn't been purely capitalistic since its early founding, and the "robber baron" era of the 1880s showed all the ways that capitalism can go wrong: frightening gaps between rich and poor, 80 hour work weeks, child labor, monopolies, etc. Regulation is needed to keep things in check

    Additionally, some things just work better under the socialist model. Would fire protection and police protection work well if they were privately billed? What would happen if someone's house caught fire and they hadn't purchased fire protection service? Would firemen be forced to let a house burn down, and risk the fire spreading worse? Would you prefer it if every single road that you drove on was a toll road?

    Capitalism is still a good thing in many ways. Market forces do drive innovation and efficiency. A mixed system works best.

  • Not a bad proposition

    Anyone who tells you that capitalism has no flaws is simply lying to you and to themselves. It is in our best interests to find ways to deal with these flaws effectively. If this means using universal healthcare, welfare to assist the poor, or food stamps, then so be it.

  • Socialism doesnt work

    When gov't acts outside of its main duties, you have Socialism assuming we're talking about the form that leads to bigger gov't. If we're talking about that form (or really any form) then that definitely does NOT work, no matter where it's tried Socialism doesn't work. There really is no characteristic of Socialism that works well at all, there are many examples to showcase this from the famous being USSR (which is Communism but Socialism isn't that much different from) and for an even earlier example before the Communist manifesto New Harmony Indiana, led by Robert Owen. This little town was all pre-built and set to go but under a Socialist format it failed in about 2 years. Get the gov out of my businesses!

  • No Socialism doesn't work.

    When gov't acts outside of its main duties, you have Socialism assuming we're talking about the form that leads to bigger gov't. If we're talking about that form (or really any form) then that definitely does NOT work, no matter where it's tried Socialism doesn't work. There really is no characteristic of Socialism that works well at all, there are many examples to showcase this from the famous being USSR (which is Communism but Socialism isn't that much different from) and for an even earlier example before the Communist manifesto New Harmony Indiana, led by Robert Owen. This little town was all pre-built and set to go but under a Socialist format it failed in about 2 years.

  • Kind of yes and no.

    Socialism is good I agree, its a very good concept with the benefit of the people but however I have heard of socialist societies before and they almost crashed and burned because too many people were feeding off of the system to actually work and put back into it. Socialism is good, but its only as good as the effort made by the people. If you have a bunch of people not working and not putting anything back or not even trying to find a job just doing nothing, the system will eventually fold into itself and crash. With more and more people especially now not working, there is nothing to go back into this system. Some people have success at socialist programs while other have to be made to suffer in order for some people to get things for free.


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AnonyFeline says2013-08-15T10:12:49.327
We're already there in the U.S. And moteso in many European countries. It's a balancing act of morality, economics, and public opinion.
Shadowguynick says2013-08-15T11:56:59.027
Yeah, but I know some people who don't like it. That's the purpose of the question.
AnonyFeline says2013-08-16T00:04:26.713
*moreso