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Is a vote for a third party candidate a wasted vote?

  • Be the Change

    If we all stopped thinking that voting for a candidate we actually want to vote for was a waste, then it wouldn't be! It is up to make a change in this country and break away from the two party system.

    The republicans and democrats win every time someone says, "voting third party is throwing your vote away." They have all of the power and we're allowing that to happen. If we don't want to live in a country that's run by two huge, uncontested parties that have long been bought out by giant corporations, then voting third party seems like a good way to go.

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  • First Past the Post

    In a First Past the Post system, voting third party is a wasted vote. The point of voting for a candidate is to maximize their chance of winning. The chance of a third party candidate winning are astronomical, so by voting for the lesser of two evils, voters are maximizing the chance of electing a candidate that is tolerable.

    The First Past the Post system also has what is known as the spoiler effect. Suppose there was an election between the Democrats and the Republicans. The Democrats got 51% of the vote, and Republicans got 49%. The Democrats would win and get elected. Now suppose that a similar election, but the Green Party got a significant portion of the votes. Suppose that the Green Party gets 10% of the votes, and the people who voted Green normally would have voted Democratic. The results are as follows: Republican 49%, Democratic 41%, and Green 10%. The Republicans won with a plurality vote, even though 51% voted for Democratic or Green. Ergo, voting third party is a vote against yourself.

  • At This Point, Yes

    America, for essential purposes, really only has two viable parties: Democrats and Republicans. As for elections, generally a democrat or republican wins, even though we do have grass roots efforts like the Tea Party or the Independent Party. The problem is, is that these third party candidates do not receive the funding that those of the larger parties do. Since they can not campaign as much, less people know about them and their platforms and do not vote for them. A vote for a third part candidate in today's model is pointless.

  • If you want your candidate elected, yes.

    If you vote for someone who has no chance of winning, a class in which most third party candidates fall, you're wasting your vote. You will still influence the election by taking votes away from the contender that you would have otherwise voted for, but unless you're just voting to make yourself feel good (voting your conscience) you should vote for the person who could possibly win that you like the most. Think of it as choosing ice cream. You love peanut-butter-rippled pistachio, like vanilla, and are allergic to chocolate. You have to eat what everyone in your state votes for. Do you vote for pistachio and go to the emergency room, or do you vote for vanilla?

  • Unfortunately, yes it is

    Even though every person should be able to vote for whomever they choose, the electoral system does not allow for this. Our current party system does not allow for this either. Third party candidates are never acknowledged enough to make any of their votes really count. This isn't from lack trying on their part, just lack of media awareness.

    Posted by: jus
  • Huge Waste

    Yes, a vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote. It’s a given in any election that there will be third party candidate votes. We would like to believe that these votes mean something, that they at least send a message about our dissatisfaction with the Republican and Democratic candidates. But the brutal truth is they do not. They are not even a blip on the radar. In order for these votes to get so much as a second glance, there would have to be thousands of them across multiple states and even then the two dominant parties would be busy trying to figure out which of them would have gotten the votes if the third party candidate had not run for office.

  • Yes.

    Candidates besides the Democrat and Republican candidates have no chance of winning. Even if you don't like either candidate, you should still vote for the better of the two, since voting for someone else will change nothing, and will give the candidate you like the least a better chance of winning.

  • It won't affect the outcome

    Voting for a 3rd party candidate is akin to staying at home, it will have zero impact on the outcome of the election.
    You can talk about having the Right to choose whomever you want to represent you, and yes you do of course. You also would have the right to bet on a 3 legged horse in the Kentucky Derby but it would not be a wise investment.

    Posted by: Jayo
  • Yes it is informative, but still a wasted vote

    Third party voting outcome usually is to capture attention for future change, instead of winning. Third party voters will still be under the leadership of whomever wins from the main parties, which is an issue to think about in the voting process. Third party voting has importance, but in a final campaign election situation, those voters have to be ok with the results.

  • An understandable yet realistic wasted vote

    Third party candidate voting allows you to express yourself but as for possible winning an election it is a waste. Its more about personal expression of your opinion. Voting for the leader of a country is so so important. Thinking beyond yourself and thinking about whats best for the country is critical.

  • To Mr. Huge Waste:

    I will use your flawed logic in another way. Let's say that you wanted to vote for Mitt Romney, but were afraid that Mitt Romney was going to lose anyway. So you decided to vote for Obama because of your fear, even though you don't want him to win. That is not logical. You are actually deciding that your vote doesn't count, and this logic you show is truly a wasted vote.

  • We have the power

    There a seems to be a certain fatalism on the other side, an overwhelming assumption that we can not change the two party system - but we can, and all it takes is some third party votes. Just like companies will always go where the money is, politicians will always go where the votes are, and so we can disrupt the system but putting out votes elsewhere.

  • Be the Change

    If we all stopped thinking that voting for a candidate we actually want to vote for was a waste, then it wouldn't be! It is up to make a change in this country and break away from the two party system.

    The republicans and democrats win every time someone says, "voting third party is throwing your vote away." They have all of the power and we're allowing that to happen. If we don't want to live in a country that's run by two huge, uncontested parties that have long been bought out by giant corporations, then voting third party seems like a good way to go.

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  • Would rather vote for what I want and not get it then vote for what I don't want and get it

    The "two" parties have become indistinguishable. They are both filled entirely with corporate stooges. If this were ever in doubt, obama's reign has confirmed it. By all measures and tests, obama's proven to be no different from romney in all actions. The only way he *looks* different to the blindly obedient democrat voter is his hollow rhetoric. Claiming that a 3red party vote is worthless is the only reason why it has been so far. The false edichotomy of the "lesser evil" has blindly loyal democrat voters believing that they have to vote for one corporate stooge to avoid the other. It's self-fulfilling prophecy. They say they want a liberal but they won't vote for one because thy think that means a conservative will win. Well their "not-wasted" vote allowed a conservative to win! Vote Green in 2014 and from now on if you want to see any positive change.

  • Of course not

    Voting for someone that you do not believe in is what is really wasted. If you vote for a third party, and enough people do. There is a chance that, although they don't win, a spark can be set and that third party can be on the track to becoming a major party.

  • Lesser of Two Evils

    I never intend to vote for the lesser of two evils. I think it is better to vote with one's conscience, or to not vote at all in the case that no parties deserve one's confidence. Even though the same major political parties will defeat the competition for the foreseeable future, not voting for them makes a statement and sets a precursor for change. I understand that some people feel the need to make an immediate influence on the state of current affairs, discriminating between parties on only a few matters in their narrow list of concerns. However, I feel that I do not need to do this and I stand by principles. After all, party politics is just a game and real change happens when both individuals and communities proactively set out to do good in the world.

  • No vote wasted

    I think that the only wasted vote is the one not cast at all. The choice of the lesser of two evils is no longer a choice for me. I've voted for the Constitution Party candidate for President in the last three elections. We can't keep sending the same people to Washington and expect different results...

  • Vote your conscience!

    A single vote never decides the election. Voting for the candidate you most believe in lets the country know that you are part of a group that is not happy with the dichotomous two-party system. How often do complex societal issues have only two polarizingly opposite ways of thinking about them? Never.

  • No

    A wasted vote is voting for a candidate you don't believe in. If you are honestly voting for a person who you believe can have a positive impact on the United States, then it is not 'wasted'. Not voting for a democrat or republican doesn't invalidate your, or anybody else's, vote.

  • Exercise your RIGHT:

    Our constitution give US the LIBERTY to decide who will be representing YOU in the government and running this county. We have this RIGHT. Let's use it. IMPORTANT CHANGES in all cultures and societies were made by those whom were NOT AFRAID to follow their conscious and believes and took ACTION. YOU tell me if your right to speak and voice your opinion through your VOTE is a waste of your time. ACTION = CHANGE.


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