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Is Ancient Sparta better than Ancient Athens??

Asked by: elijonlogan
  • Equality of Women

    Ancient Athens was absolutely amazing with the arts and government, and was a large exporter and importer, but women weren't considered citizens. The women of Athens couldn't own land, farm, work, participate in competitions, or go to school. Athens kept women around mostly for reproduction purposes. Sparta, however, was slightly uncivilized, but at least they treated people equally. I would usually vote for Athens, but this issue annoys me too much.

  • Spartains drool and athens rule

    Spartains are very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very STUPID

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  • Oh come on

    Is the author really arguing that Sparta, the city-state that had a slave ratio of 10:1 and where citizens couldn't leave the city because there was a risk of revolt, treated people more equally than Athens.

    Let's be honest. A militaristic city-state makes for awesome movie, but its a poor place to live. Killing all those considered weak, sending your children in the wild to teach them how to survive and then raising them to be warriors is'nt what I call an ideal and progressive society.

  • Oh come on

    Is the author really arguing that Sparta, the city-state that had a slave ratio of 10:1 and where citizens couldn't leave the city because there was a risk of revolt, treated people more equally than Athens.

    Let's be honest. A militaristic city-state makes for awesome movie, but its a poor place to live. Killing all those considered weak, sending your children in the wild to teach them how to survive and then raising them to be warriors is'nt what I call an ideal and progressive society.

  • More civilized people

    Athens was academically more superior then Sparta was. Athens would give you an education that would stimulate the mind, where. In Sparta you are relentlessly trained to be a soldier. Athens were superior traders and even won battles when fighting Sparta. Sparta also would not stand for mentally challenged people, though I'm not sure how Athens addressed this issue

  • I agree that Sparta is too overrated.

    Sparta was quite an unstable place and every day life was tough, especially for helots, the farmers. They worked hard but still they would have to pay half of their produce to the army. Athens were more civilised as not only did they train just for war like in Sparta, but they had things like crafts and schools. Would you have liked a blood-thirsty clan of Spartans or a wealthy and stable Athens?

  • I agree that Sparta is too overrated.

    Sparta was quite an unstable place and every day life was tough, especially for helots, the farmers. They worked hard but still they would have to pay half of their produce to the army. Athens were more civilised as not only did they train just for war like in Sparta, but they had things like crafts and schools. Would you have liked a blood-thirsty clan of Spartans or a wealthy and stable Athens?

  • Spartains drool and athens rule

    Spartains are very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very STUPID

  • Athens had better education

    Athens had better education as Spartas only education was wa and military, a women's job was to produce more babies for the military's population they also were in a bad location surrounded by hills to make it easier to attack Athens is better than Sparta for those reasons :) :)

  • Sparta- one of the most overated city states of all time.

    Sparta was essentially a small band of warrior men who yes, were formidable warriors, briefly lead the Hellenes and treated their women well compared to the rest of the world, but all positive comments end there. Sparta left behind no great architecture,art or literature. Their politcal system was an unimpressive oligarchy. They took their territory from agricultural farmers called helots who hated their oppresive masters and the spartans spent much of their time putting down helot uprisings - this shows how effective there system was.This unmaintainable lifestyle eventually led most of the spartans to die out and by Roman times they were little more than a tourist attraction for wealthy Italians. Compare that to Athens, which has had an impact on almost every area of society in the west with its great art, architecture and literature, its philosophy, mathematics and theatre, its political system and administration. There really is not much of an argument for sparta. (Source: knowledge from studying Herodotus and Thucydides when i was 17)


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