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Is C.E. and B.C.E. better than B.C. and A.D.?

Asked by: Lordgrae
  • The launch of the world's first probe into space is more significant than the brith of a religious figure.

    While yes, you may argue that the birth of Christ is significant, the launch of a probe into space could mean a new era for humanity itself and a step to local group dominance. Make it October 4th, 1957 because it is a grand step to local group dominance! (Local group = Nearby group of galaxies)

  • It is applicable globally, and more accurate.

    To begin with, a majority of the world never used BC and AD- that is a European conceit spread through imperialism. But Asian countries, South America, some ethnicities like the Jews- these groups never used it in the first place. To use "Common Era" and "Before Common Era" provides a universal standard for use in scholarship and historical studies.
    Of course, there is the fact that "BC" and "AD" weren't accurate in the first place. If Jesus had existed, the best estimate would have been 4BCE for his birth. Of course, the Gospels differ by a decade on when he was born, but the point remains. Once we got a more accurate calendar system, it became obvious that the BC/AD count was off.

  • We live in a world with more than one religion

    And to give one religion domination over the calender is something of a breach of secularism. Also, it is inaccurate, as most historians believe that if Jesus existed, he was born in 4CE, not 1AD, and therefore to describe it as 'Before Christ' would be inaccurate. Also, AD stands for Anno Domini, or 'The Year of Our Lord', which implies subservience to Christianity, an action that is no longer relevant in the world today. I don't want to say that I was born in Year of our Lord 1995; I want to say I was born in the year 1995 of the Common Era, which is a much more accurate and secular, and therefore rational and diplomatic term to use.

  • Our Christian calendar

    A secular calendar would be needed, if our society is going to reject Christ's date of birth. And who will decide the beginning of a new calendar? Brussels? EU comission? America? An astronomical society that will not exist in a thousand years? Will each country have their own? The Jews and Muslims have their own, as do most Asian nations. Christians have every right to theirs also, and secularists and atheists can make their own and use it privately, but they need to stop imposing their agenda for everything related to Christianity. They try so hard to eradicate our Christian past, yet they are really ignorant of history, and the significance of the calendar.

  • What defines the common era?

    It should definitely be BC and AD. The world has traditionally used these dating marks. Why would we change it now? Our dating is divided over when Jesus lived. This is just the way things work. If you don't believe He is God, it doesn't really effect the dating system. We don't change Thursday to something else just because it is named after Thor...Sometimes we can keep world traditions and customs simply because they are part of our humanity rather than have to get worked up about the simple things.

    Posted by: Dmot
  • Bunch Of Bullfrogs

    I always thought it was "Before Christ" and "After Death", which makes unbiased sense. Who are the twits who dreamed up this CE nonsense? I suspect they can't handle proper spelling and grammar either, so are trying to divert attention from their own ignorance by pretending to be an authority on something totally irrelevant. Tsk!

  • We are losing a piece of history

    The traditional calendar is designed to count from the birth of Jesus, this is an important part of the worlds history whether or not you are a Christian. There is no denying that Jesus was born and that he had an amazing impact on human beings even if you don't believe he is the son of God.

    If we remove the names that indicate why we divide time the way we do, future generations will never learn this important part of our history.

  • BCE/CE are politically correct euphemisms that simply cover up the meaning

    If we need to change BC/AD, shouldn't we also need to change "St. Louis" to "Mr. Louis", and so on? Just because something has a Christian origin doesn't mean you need to cover it up with a euphemism. We don't cover up the pagan names in the days of the week or the months, i.E. Thursday = Thor's Day, January = Janus' Month.

  • Changing Historical Words!?!?!?

    BC and AD are historical words, people need to get over being the first to do something, what they're doing is changing something in history, which is these two historical words. Majority of nations were built on religious beliefs, these two words came from a religious nation that shaped western civilisation. Leave it alone. If these were changed, then what about the 7-day week deriving from the Holy Bible, names of the week days are from ancient gods, people's christian name and surname, what about the first name referred to as christian name? Leave things alone and go discover whats out there instead of changing history.

  • BC and AD are better than CE and BCE

    BC and AD have been used for so long, and even in modern school textbooks they use BC and AD. Changing it to CE and BCE is just crazy because why would we change something we all use (even non Christians use it) just because some really butthurt people refuse to believe in the Christian god and not use their calendar?

  • There Is No Secular Calendar

    Secularism hasn't given the world anything. All Western calendars are the Gregorian Calendar- a papal calendar created in the 1500's, and modified off the pre-existing Church Julian calendar. It's a Christian calendar- so of course it's going to centered around Jesus. It's no more conceited than the calendars of every religion. (What IS conceited however, is secularists demanding the rest of the world cater to THEIR beliefs.) If you truly don't care about Christianity, then stop caring about the calendar- to a real non-Christian, it should be a non-issue. Does using the weekday names mean accepting Thor as lord of Thursday? No. Everyone uses Thursday (and every other day and month) without complaint. Using the Gregorian doesn't mean accepting Christian beliefs anymore than the weekdays accept paganism.

    There is nothing "Common" in the "Common Era". What's so "Common" about it, that wasn't in common before it? (Hint: the birth of Christ.) So the BCE/CE terms simply mask a Christian calendar with meaningless language to appease only those with specifically anti-Christian sensitivities. This whole issue reveals just how bigoted, demanding and vulnerable the CE proponents are. These new terms are NOT neutral (they are only pro-secularist) and are entirely inaccurate, because you're still talking about the Gregorian Calendar, since a secular calendar just doesn't exist.


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Bullish says2013-08-13T19:34:27.657
It's like the word "holiday" from "holy day". The old religion gave something and we don't necessarily have to be against it.
Lordgrae says2013-08-14T00:50:29.827
Still, the opportunity for the change is already in widespread usage. It would be a simple matter to change it. I agree that when it is something so unregulated and with no other alternative we do not need to reject it, but when the alternative is there we should change it.
Lordgrae says2013-08-15T13:06:22.903
Holy day, excludes a lot less people. It only excludes atheists, and that isn't really something that any atheists I know really cares about. Most people don't care where words originate, we care how they are used. Do people care that the name for the country Nigeria originally meant "land of the blacks" when some racist queen decided on that name? No. If it still meant that in normal conversation, than people might get offended.