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  • It does like it does really.

    Believe i know everything there is to know about the nestle crisis in iceland and antartica and how they're taking all the ice and converting it into salt water and putting it into the fresh water lakes. Oh, im not even going to start on the glaciers they're being microwaved btw

  • Root cause of social injustice based on capitalists thinking they can control how populace behaves and use it in an effort to enrich themselves.

    There is an answer to capitalism. Look at the Mondragon co-operatives in Spain which is united by a humanist concept of business, a philosophy of participation and solidarity, and a shared business culture. The culture is rooted in a shared mission and a number of principles, corporate values and business policies. Over the years, these links have been embodied in a series of operating rules approved on a majority basis. This framework of business culture has been structured based on a common culture derived from the Basic Co-operative Principles, in which Mondragon is rooted: Open Admission, Democratic Organization, the Sovereignty of Labor, Instrumental and Subordinate Nature of Capital, Participatory Management, Payment Solidarity, Inter-cooperation, Social Transformation, Universality and Education.

    This philosophy is complemented by four Corporate Values: Co-operation, acting as owners and protagonists; Participation, which takes shape as a commitment to management; Social Responsibility, by means of the distribution of wealth based on solidarity; and Innovation, focusing on constant renewal in all areas.[17]

    This business culture translates into compliance with a number of Basic Objectives (Customer Focus, Development, Innovation, Profitability, People in Co-operation and Involvement in the Community) and General Policies approved by the Co-operative Congress, which are taken on board at all the Corporation’s organisational levels and incorporated into the four-year strategic plans and the annual business plans of the individual co-operatives, Divisions, and the Corporation as a whole.[18]
    Wage regulation

    At Mondragon, there are agreed-upon wage ratios between executive work and field or factory work which earns a minimum wage. These ratios range from 3:1 to 9:1 in different cooperatives and average 5:1. That is, the general manager of an average Mondragon cooperative earns 5 times as much as the theoretical minimum wage paid in his/her cooperative. In reality, this ratio is smaller because there are few Mondragon worker-owners that earn minimum wages, because most jobs are somewhat specialized and so are classified at higher wage levels. The wage ratio of a cooperative is decided periodically by its worker-owners through a democratic vote.[19]

    Compared to similar jobs at local industries, Mondragon wages are 30% or less at management levels[clarification needed] and equivalent for middle management, technical and professional levels. Lower wage levels are on average 13% higher than similar jobs at local businesses. Spain's progressive tax rate further reduces any disparity in pay.[19]

  • Yes. It is not a fair system.

    There is a myth in American society that says that people who work hard will succeed, but this is only true to a point. The cards are still stacked against people who are poor and people who are discriminated against for being minorities. Capitalism does bring great innovation, but it also produces inequality because moneymakers do not want to share their profits with the workers who make the profits possible in the first place. This is the reason inequality is growing in America.

  • Yes, capitalism is detrimental to social justice. Capitalism by definition requires a class of people in poverty for which there can never be social justice.

    Capitalism is detrimental to social justice because it requires a class of people to be in poverty. A man who starts a business or owns a large factory needs a class of poor people to work for him, to flip burgers, or handle a cash register. The same people who hire these people to work in their business, look down on the people who do. They treat them as if they are beneath the wealthy. These people working these low wage jobs owned by wealthy capitalists, often live in poor areas, send their kids to failing schools, and can barely meet their own basic needs. And yet they are required for capitalism to work. Capitalism therefore, is detrimental to social equality and justice.

  • On some level, they are mutually exclusive.

    I believe that on some level social justice and capitalism are mutually exclusive ideals, because capitalism strives for a totally free market where money is the only concern, and social justice tries to insert other concerns. Of course, both would advocate having a free and fair market, but ardent pure capitalists would not support welfare or other programs that also are a part of social justice.

  • Social justice is essentially Communism.

    As stated by Orwell, "Even slavery could be sold if labeled 'freedom.' Those who support social justice do so simply because it is titled "social justice." What social justice does is it takes from those who are fortunate and gives to the less fortunate. At face value, this seems to be a good thing, hence "social justice." However, if one looks hard enough, one can see through this misleading title and view social justice for what it really is: redistribution of property. As anyone can tell you, redistribution is the defining characteristic of Communism.

  • Social justice is essentially Communism.

    As stated by Orwell, "Even slavery could be sold if labeled 'freedom.' Those who support social justice do so simply because it is titled "social justice." What social justice does is it takes from those who are fortunate and gives to the less fortunate. At face value, this seems to be a good thing, hence "social justice." However, if one looks hard enough, one can see through this misleading title and view social justice for what it really is: redistribution of property. As anyone can tell you, redistribution is the defining characteristic of Communism.

  • Social Justice is essentially Communism.

    As stated by Orwell, "Even slavery could be sold if labeled 'freedom.' Those who support social justice do so simply because it is titled "social justice." What social justice does is it takes from those who are fortunate and gives to the less fortunate. At face value, this seems to be a good thing, hence "social justice." However, if one looks hard enough, one can see through this misleading title and view social justice for what it really is: redistribution of property. As anyone can tell you, redistribution is the defining characteristic of Communism.

  • "Social Justice" is subjective, and therefore requires a class of arbiters with total control, the ultimate injustice.

    "Social justice" as defined by those on the "yes" side requires taking from some and giving to others for no purpose other than redistribution, because they view it as "justice." In any other circumstance, this would be considered theft as we recognize that property is a right. I cannot take your car and give it to your neighbor simply because I view it as justice. But that is precisely what redistribution is: theft. Right to property, right to liberty, and right to life are all that needed for the framework of a prosperous society. Capitalist societies are by far the most wealthy and fastest growing of all countries in the world. Also, countries that liberalize their economies (i.E. Make them "freer") see faster GDP growth rates. This added wealth creates numerous jobs, increases in standards of living, and overall more prosperous and healthy lives. On the opposite end of the spectrum, we have societies ranging from the Soviet Union to the North Korean dictatorship. All citizenry within these socialist states seeking to establish social justice live in equally deplorable conditions... With the exception of their wealthy powerful ruling class who forever seeks to remain in power and enrich itself under the guise of "justice."

    An equal society is one that applies all laws equally, not one that punishes prosperity in the name of "justice."

  • No, capitalism is key to a thriving country.

    Free-enterprise system allows for competition. Competition clearly enables the most successful and efficient goods and services to be provided. This raises GDP and thus raises GDP per person, enabling everyone to enjoy a higher standard of living. Furthermore, the government has more money to distribute(if you believe that central governments should be actively helping social justice).

  • Capitalism is not detrimental to social justice.

    Capitalism and the industrial revolution have ushered in the greatest period of development in human history. Without a capitalist marketplace, we would have none of the technological advances of the last few centuries. Communist countries have lagged behind the capitalist world. Clearly, capitalism is a beneficial system that helps the world.

  • Isn't It Funny.

    Before I explain why many arguments on the yes side are irrelevant, allow me please a moment to point something out. Whether it be out of cowardliness or simply not noticed - not a sing person on the yes side has posted using their username that we may use to debate them in a 1 on 1 setting on this topic. I openly hope someone on the yes side challenges me because regardless of whether I'd win or not -I'm willing to put up a fight based on my studies and beliefs in capitalism versus other forms of economic practices. People blame capitalism for inequality - to them I say they are partially right; in a capitalist society nothing will be fair for everyone; but answer me this; would you rather live in this kind of society than one where everything is fair but no one is truly better off than they were before (i.e. socialism)? The only way to make things "fair" in the U.S. is to bring down the wealthy. You say it isn't fair that capitalism requires there to be poor people yet you see it as being fair to punish those who do in fact succeed. Do not mistake me - im not an advocate for uncontrolled capitalism for it can lead to dominating monopolies and be just as harmful as absolute socialism. However I'd rather live in a society where I have the chance to succeed - no matter how slim - than exist in a society where it's already been decided how far I will go.

  • No, Because the Concept of Social Justice is Bogus

    Justice is an individual thing under the law. If you have 20 people, you're going to have 20 opinions of what is "justice" to the group. Capitalism allows people to define for themselves what they want out of life, and how they are going to get it. Capitalism works for the individual, the same as justice does.


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Anonymous says2013-07-12T13:51:20.127
"Capitalism is civil greed"-Athenkosi Cetyana(CPT,Khayelitsha)
Nick_Lang says2015-06-02T23:01:55.517
I don't know whether capitalism is detrimental to social justice. What I do know is that social justice (at least the type practiced by progressives today) is detrimental to prosperity, and thus to liberty and ultimately happiness.