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  • That makes no sense and has nothing to do with faith

    We dont have faith in money. We use money as currency. We use to represent exchange. In more primitive times people didnt have a set currency so they traded goods and services. Money is no different, it is just a simplified version of trade, its more symbolic than faith(belief). Faith is believing something without a rational justification.

  • Faith is belief without evidence (i.E. A complete absence of rational thought) and is therefore always bad, even if it sometimes accidentally results in good.

    It is true that a person can have faith in a good thing and hence indirectly have a positive effect on the world through having that faith, however, this is actually totally irrelevant to the question. The question is about faith itself, not incidental and indirect effects.

    By analogy, if you have faith that a lucky charm will help you win the lottery and you happen to win that lottery then that still does not in any way justify having faith in the lucky charm. It is irrelevant.

    When good things happen in a faith context they only happen in spite of faith, not because of faith. There is only one way to consistently get good results in how we live our lives and that is through reasoning and logic. Faith is literally just assuming some random set of statements without any evidence, which implies that faith can be used to justify ANY arbitrary set of beliefs regardless of whether those beliefs or correct or not.

    Faith is not based in reason in any way and hence any positive effects it may have are by definition purely accidental.

    Also, notice that hope and trust are not faith. One can very easily be comforted without faith, contrary to popular misconceptions.

  • No, faith is hardly ever a bad thing.

    If faith is put blindly in another person who has not showed loyalty or in a system of beliefs and a leader who is out to limit rather than expand one's attitudes, then it can be damaging. But faith that is optimistic and that opens up the personality to new possibilities is a very valuable thing.

  • Faith can be an important comfort for some

    Faith is all that holds some people together. Faith is all that holds our society together when you think about it. What is money back by? Faith! Money only has value because we all have common faith that it does. The value of the dollar rises and falls based on faith.

  • That makes no sense and has nothing to do with faith

    We dont have faith in money. We use money as currency. We use to represent exchange. In more primitive times people didnt have a set currency so they traded goods and services. Money is no different, it is just a simplified version of trade, its more symbolic than faith(belief). Faith is believing something without a rational justification.


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NightKnight says2014-06-12T02:37:33.447
Why was my response to this question never posted? It was a completely valid and fairly reasoned post. I can't help but suspect that a biased religious person who moderated it intentionally blocked it, which is disgusting. Someone may be sabotaging this page in order to force the religious side to win the debate. I will post my response again here in these comments at least (which I always save, exactly because of this kind of unethical crap). My response was to vote YES. Here's what I original tried to respond with:

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Faith is belief without evidence (i.E. An absence of rational thought) and is therefore always bad.
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It is true that a person can have faith in a good thing and hence indirectly have a positive effect on the world through having that faith, however, this is actually totally irrelevant to the question. The question is about faith itself, not incidental and indirect effects.

By analogy, if you have faith that a lucky charm will help you win the lottery and you happen to win that lottery then that still does not in any way justify having faith in the lucky charm. It is irrelevant.

When good things happen in a faith context they only happen in spite of faith, not because of faith. There is only one way to consistently get good results in how we live our lives and that is through reasoning and logic. Faith is literally just assuming some random set of statements without any evidence, which implies that faith can be used to justify ANY arbitrary set of beliefs regardless of whether those beliefs or correct or not.

Faith is not based in reason in any way and hence any positive effects it may have are by definition purely accidental.

Also, notice that hope and trust are not faith. One can very easily be comforted without faith, contrary to popular misconceptions.
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