Feminism will always needed because even with laws to protect women, men have remained rapists and supporters of the hierarchy. Without feminism men will continue to think it is acceptable to rape women because this is what they are taught at birth.
As long as men are raised this way, feminism will be needed as well as anti-racism and LGBT advocates.
Any argument that liberation movement are no longer relevant is ridiculous. Even in an ideal world without discrimination liberation movements are still so useful, to ensure that this idealism does not slip.
However, this is not the case! Women are paid less than men, fewer than 10% of rape cases result in a conviction and the word 'woman' is used as an insult. Is my case not clear enough?
I assume that anyone who voted in any other way self-defines as a misogynist.
Women still make less than men, on average, in every career field. Violence towards women gets worse with each passing day. The greatest insult to any man is to claim he is somehow effeminate. Prejudices against gay men are primarily so strong, because gay men are perceived as effeminate, or less than a man. It is still the ultimate goal to be as masculine as possible. Men are not the only ones that are culpable. Women are just as guilty of using the word "girly" as an insult to men. Feminism will always be relevant, especially when we still have so far to go.
Feminism will be relevant for as long as there is inequality in this WORLD, not just in America. Fact of the matter is equality is far from being reached, that is obvious. Women in sports, the workplace, wages, opportunities, overall expectations ect. Women's worth is put into their appearance and body image other than their accomplishments.
Feminism is not (and never has been) about female superiority or taking away the rights of men. Its about EQUALITY. Its not just about voting rights or getting jobs. Its about the way women are treated in everyday life. When GENDER itself is no longer a detriment to someone's ability to do something (i.E. Females can't handle leadership) then feminism will no longer be needed.
When women are no longer blamed for being raped, or automatically expected to want children, or actively discouraged from traditionally male fields (math, science, politics, etc) then feminism will no longer be needed. When women are treated the exact same way man would be in ANY situation, then feminism will no longer be needed.
And FYI, if you're someone who thinks feminism isn't necessary or that women have true equality, then you are part of the problem.
Feminism is a stance of empowerment for everyone. In a world where women still earn 77 on the dollar in comparison to men, it is of extreme importance that the feminist movement live on. There is still much work to be done as patriarchy dominates so many aspects of our society.
Just glancing at the negative side proves that women are being degraded and objectified in this culture. We need to teach each other to treat each other as equal human beings. Men also need feminism, they can be raped as well, and oppressed by a culture that teaches them what they must do to be "manly".
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"Women are inferior!!!!!!!1 According to a recent pewresearch.Org poll the average American female is inferior at understanding the world. (http://www.Pewresearch.Org/quiz/science-knowledge/) --you must take the pole to see the results. The pole shows that females lack, comparatively to their male counterparts, the ability to understand science and the world around us. In some form or another they should be stripped of some rights. Women need to be barred from holding position of power(congress). They have poor decision making skills and should not be able to vote or own property. I'm extremely disappointed in how we have made it to this point. Feminism has only harmed us."
I have to say this:
It's a poll, not a "pole", sweetie. I would blame your country's education system, not the women. Women need to be in equal positions of power if only to prevent extremists of ANY gender, race, etc. to create biases. The only way to provide a genuinely equal view is to split it equally.
In terms of people generally wanting to know if feminism means you can "hit girls now" you might first want to look at your priorities, if that's the first thing you ask when we mention equal rights. Second, if you're being assaulted and you need to defend yourself, than yes. Men, women, trans, gender queer...People of the world - if you are being assaulted, do what you can to defend yourself and GET AWAY. On that note, ladies - if a man says "Stop" and you're hitting him, I don't care if you're teasing, STOP IT. If you keep going, you're putting the onus back on them to keep going when you say stop.
And speaking of feminism harming us, the US Bureau of Justice statistics showed that 90% of homicide offenders were male, while females had the lowest offending rate of any racial or age groups. Check your facts. We don't want to take over the world, we just want to be equal in it.
Less than one hundred years ago women did not have the right to vote weren't able to have jobs and in the event that their husbands died they were left with nothing and no way to care for there children. Men were allowed to beat women and there are still many, many more women than men being raped and kept as sex slaves. The movements and protests are not needed because the issues are not as serious as they were (in the U.S. Middle East is a completely different story) but it still must be a part of education because men, for as long as history has been recorded, have been violent, domineering and controlling and any research will show that men make up the majority of the prison system and commit the majority of the crimes. I'm not saying men are all evil and I'm not saying women are better. I'm saying that men obviously are aggressive and controlling in nature and that we can't allow ourselves to fall back into that kind of barbaric way of living. We need to keep our children educated. I mean why is teaching children from a young age not to hit one another still relevant? For the same reason that teaching people that women have rights and shouldn't be downtrodden because they are physically weaker than men is.
Feminism is a belief that women should have the same right a men. I think not. Feminism means that yes but I believe that women like me are using it more as a term for saying; we want respect! We don't want men hitting our butts because "they have to right to" we are judged daily based on how we look. How you look determines if man is going to sleep with you or not. Surprisingly we aren't tools you find in your tool box... So don't use us like them. We think that equality is achieved but women are still not respected. Women are paid an average of 20% less that men on an overall average in careers. So if men would notice this we would stop needing feminism. WE WANT RESPECT!!
Its clearly irrelevant at this point in time. I mean what can't a woman do that a man can other than stand while peeing. Now turn that question backwards, What can't a man that a woman can?
Women get favor in everything, everytime I turn on the TV, something being advertised for women. Look at it this way, my friend was once grabbed in the crotch by this girl, he didn't say anything (surprise, right?) When he tried to grab her breast all of a sudden all hell broke loose. After explaining the situation, she fessed up about doing it. We both wondered, why can't he touch your breast? She says because I'm a Girl. Oh, ok. What no.
How about the Girls who take advantage of the no hitting rule? Who will always get in your face, and constantly be on you like your the scum of the earth? Happens to me in algebra sometimes, I get really close, but I don't hit her. I just completely deflect her everytime she tries to hit me. What about the girl's that fool you into getting them things, and then trick you later leaving you?
I cannot believe you still think women cannot have the same opportunities as men! My mom is single, and she has been the Principle of over 4 schools, she provided well for us and I am very grateful to her. She has had the same education chance as any male! Paid less, get out with that crap, at one point in time she was making more than my Uncle who was also a Principle, IN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT!
Your upset about the negative image of women in the media? Girls that get raped? Or the way women get depicted?
NEWSFLASH, women who are strippers, CHOOSE to be that. Granted, it may be a last resort, but you know that something else happened that involved that, and it IS NOT ALWAYS A MAN'S FAULT.
Women in media are PAID to do those things and act that way TV, they are actors. Those ladies, chose to be depicted that way since they are on there! If they really didn't want to be on TV that way, THEY WOULDN'T DO IT!! Take that media argument up with the actors that do it.
Rape, is something that no one can really ever stop. Its like trying to stop a 2 yr old from crying. They are always going to do it, its going to happen. What you could do is to stop yelling at all men. Even though I am not fully grown, I have never done anything like that to a girl. The worst I've done is maybe felt her hair without permission.
The abortion thing I do agree with though. Won't even argue there.
If your fighting for women's rights in other countries you take it up with them. I just don't wanna get yelled at for something that hardly ever occurs here in the States anymore.
Feminists say that that the average working woman doesn't make enough money, and that is due to the fact that a good portion of women don't work as hard as most men! Employers have to give women workers 9 or more months of maternity leave, and still leave the position they had in that job open so they can get it back. And don't get me started on how the law greatly benefits woman, in most cases who gets custody of the children, Women. Who gets alimony when a couple gets divorced, Women. Who I ask, acts sneaky and pokes holes in condoms to get pregnant and charge the male/shemale(because they are technically dudes) of rape or makes them pay child support... Women
I am a guy and I am ashamed feminism even needed to exist. Unfortunately it did and women in the western world have bettered from it and it has done some wonders.
Important issues, like wage gaps, voting and enlisting to fight for your country have been cleared up. Women now stand equal to men and in order to look back at the movement of feminism and be reminded and inspired of the brave women who stood out and changed this, it needs to tone down a lot now.
My ex girlfriend would tell me, why can a guy sleep with who he wants, be high gived, yet a girl gets condemned?
Well, why is it socially acceptable for a women to hit a man and not reverse? Why are 99% work related deaths of men? Why is 83% of violent crimes have male victims?
Assured, these are all REAL problems, though that is as far as that stretches.
Sexually, males and females will always be different. When I was at a part once, a girl walked past and casually slapped me in the genitals. Had I walked passed her and squeezed her breast, I'd have been attacked more likely. A girl slept with a guy, I knew them both and heard it both from them. Though when she regretted it, she told everyone she was drunk and didn't want it. Woman are viewed as so fragile and important, the guy was beaten into hospital for 'rape' even though a select few people knew this was not the case.
Cosmopolitan, one of the most popular female magazines. Including headlines like 'How to seduce a guy in ten minutes' 'How to bring males to orgasm without trying' - these are genuine headlines.
If I turned to a male friend and told him I could have any women I wanted in ten minutes, I'd be labelled a womaniser.
Please don't get me wrong, I am not complaining or point scoring about the inequalities with men sexually. I am just stating that both genders have their pros and cons in these aspects.
These are not, life changing and majorly important issues that feminism needs to fall down on like a ton of bricks. It's past equality now and bordering overpowering.
Politically, and socially and financially, women are treated as equals and focusing on small, unfounded issues is tarnishing what was once a vital movement. Together we can work and improve each other and become a more tolerant and peaceful race, one endless stream of angry woman obsessing over every small issue is doing the opposite.
I'll leave this with a comment from an active feminist who quotes; 'I am a feminist, because I am tired of making sure my phone is on standby when I am walking alone in the dark'
A pure example of feminism hi-jacking real life issues. Men are overwhelmingly more so, the victims of violent assaults.
Modern feminists have never seen real oppression and don't even know what equality means. It's just a whole lot of whining and misandry at this point. They got their rights while managing to escape certain responsibilities (e.G. Selective service). They're in many ways the preferred gender, especially in divorces and domestic violence cases. They still cling to concepts like chivalry, "never hit a woman", etc. Without holding themselves to the same standards.
It's about as equal as things can get. I don't believe any more should be given to women until they can show that they deserve it.
I see plenty of women complain about there being under-representation of women in politics, but I also noticed how under-represented they are in the street cleaning industry but I hear no complaints about that.
Women want equality...but only the good parts of it. (See how the Minister for women and equalities reacted when the car insurance prices for women was finally brought up to the same level as men).
Personally, I don't think feminism was a movement that should ever have formed, women should not be in any positions of power simply because I don't believe they are capable of handling it.
For the record, I have never had bad experiences with women. I have a loving mother and sister, what I said is based from simple logic and fact. Can't argue with that...though I'm sure "butthurt" feminists will try.
Feminism is no longer relevant in America because, while it helped women gain equal rights to men in our country, those rights are now standard. Women now can choose careers and motherhood without condemnation from the business world and society. Women now get equal education and business opportunities as men and even run some of America's top businesses. While feminism was needed many decades ago, its goal has been accomplished.
Firstly, the main problem with feminism and the social sciences in general, is that they are characterized by a distinct lack scientific evidence and proof and, instead, they heavily rely on theoretical basis that may or may not find an accurate reflection in what really happens in reality.
What I mean by that is that feminism not only ignores but downright denies the impact of BIOLOGICAL effect on gender and race even if there are many studies to prove them wrong.
Instead, they interpret the various social phenomena based on their own experiences and ideologies.
The fact that such a scientifically inaccurate movement has thrived in the academic space makes wonder: Why has the patriarchy allowed this? Does the patriarchy really exist?
So if feminism does not rely on science to reinforce its positions, then what does it rely on?
Feminism is no longer just about gender equality (if it ever was).
It has expanded to race,class, age, religion etc with the same feeling of self righteousness and bitterness it had when it started. However, if this kind of suspicion was once a strength of feminism, now it is its weakness.
The need of feminism to constantly find enemies has led it to deplecity and ideological narrowness.
It is no longer about truth but advancing an ideological agenda which is not powered by cold hard evidence but theorems and opinions as well as clearly biased interpretations of reality.
On another note, feminists claim that feminism is about equality.
That is not really the case.
Feminism, as long as gender is concerned, is about granting more privilege to women. A noble cause, since women are known to be oppressed throughout history.
But does it end there?
In areas where women are underprivileged, supporting and giving them more power will indeed lead to equality and is something that is greatly needed but also majorly achieved in most countries of western culture.
However, in areas where women are not underprivileged or even equally privileged, doing so causes just another imbalance which immediately leads to discrimination, this time against males.
The kind of one sided and absolute view of oppression is distinct in feminism and not only in gender:
The opinion that if a specific group is in average more privileged than another, that means that members of the same group CANNOT be oppressed or treated unfairly by the latter is quite popular with feminists, especially in the academic space.
They demonise masculinity and have come up with the term "hegemonic masulinity" to reinforce this idea.
Since feminism has never ACTED in support of underprivileged straight, white males against overprivileged females in cases where male discrimination is a really serious and prevalent, this alone tells me that feminism is really, really far from egalitarian.
These three reasons (lost of focus, bias and scientific neglect) is why feminism isn't only irrelevant but also harmful to the western culture.
Women have the same rights as men. I do not see women being discriminated against anywhere. Women already have equal rights so it is irrelavent.
So, you want equality? Sure, what does it have to do with going around arguing spectacularly that men are inferior? There is definitely a certain double standard here. Maybe back in the old ages, feminism started as a movement to restore rights for women, but now it has become an instrument of enmity a group of illiterate irrational women use to take their revenge out on their men, or on men in society, in general. Let's get things straight here and be, even for once, rational. If you are hurt and there are men out there who treated you bad or raped you or divorced you or cheated on you or whatever horrible thing it might have been, it does not entitle you to use a pure goal oriented movement, perhaps outdated in this era, to take your revenge on all men. I've seen women out there refusing to do the laundry just because they thing doing so will make them inferior. I've seen women out there that use feminism to justify that they should be with a woman and not with a man. Don't even get me started on the whole mass in dating and how such movement has led to women playing games, yet calling it woman power. I believe the movement has done its job, at least in America. It is time to refocus on equality, and think about how to close the wide gap between men and women. Think about how our actions hurt the other gender and readjust
Many years ago, feminism was relevant. When women couldn't own property or vote, feminism was relevant.
Today, women have every right that men have.
Today, feminism is all about political agenda. Not one feminist that I've ever talked to cares about equal rights. They only care about defacing men and whining about what they perceive as problems. They are the most slanderous, disgusting group of people that I have ever had the misfortune of discovering. They don't care about women, men, or equal rights.
If you live in a first world country, you don't need feminism.