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  • I'm going to get some fire for this

    But let's take a look anyway shall we? Well if a fetish is essentially a sexual attraction to something that one is not capable of having sex with, and men are not actually capable of having sex with men nor women with women (the end result of sex would be procreation), I suppose by that line of reasoning homosexuality would be considered a fetish.

  • Definitely a fetish

    If you want to be gay, be gay. I really don't care. Don't act like I have to care though. I have alot of fetishes. I don't go spewing my fetishes at people trying to get them to accept them and tell them that they better accept my fetish. Being gay is a choice, dependent on environmental factors. Nurture, not nature.

  • Unconventional sexual attraction.

    Sexual fetishism is the need of some sort of unconventional sexual stimulant to reach a climax. In this case, homosexuality does just that. This attraction people have to the same gender poses an interest on the said being sexually, therefore, it can easily be conceived as a fetish. If a certain person finds it hard to impossible to reach a climax without resorting to the conventional stimulants like genitals of their opposite gender, then it falls under the exact definition of a fetish.

  • It's a Fetish

    Straight or gay, do people really need to share what gets them off in the bedroom? I say bedroom, but I'm aware people don't confine their desires exclusively their. I think many rational people would prefer not to see what gets an individual turned on unless they're in an intimate relationship or have plans to be in one with the said individual. Whether it is anal or oral sex, nipple twisting, dirty talk, standard missionary style, or reverse cowgirl. Why do we have to share that publically? Why are people who are uncomfortable with themselves or their family members being exposed to others fetishes declared ignorant? I'm not saying the behavior of sharing sexual turn-ons is nefarious. Nor am I saying their should be a law created to stop or punish people who do it. I'm simply asking why it should be embraced by society as a progressive thing to do? This country was founded on principles of freedom like speech and free will. Nazis and The Nation of Islam are completely within their rights to preach their doctrine of hate in public, but that doesn't mean you have to accept what they're trying to propagate! It's really more of a privacy concern. Shouldn't people be able to go out in public or watch T.V. with or without their families and not be bombarded with what makes another person reach orgasm. Sexuality, like defecation, is a natural urge, but is it something we should encourage seeing more of in public? Advertising and entertainment companies have already saturated us in erotic media because it sells. Shouldn't a civilized people strive to control their animalistic sexual nature in public? I speak for all forms of human sexuality in that context. I understand that this whole line of argument will just be glossed over as bigotry, but is it? I challenge someone to argue the merits of this idea and not attack the messenger.

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  • Going against science.

    We live in a world where everything is based on scientific fact, one needs to prove that one is "born gay" through non-bias universally accepted scientific studies. Saying that one is "born gay" or has the "gay gene" is just as legit as ones leap of faith with religion. People don't "come out", they reach sexual maturity and through what they learned through culture and their surroundings, they see what their sexual preferences are. As of now, there are more legit scientific studies that go against the "gay gene" theory, and that is enough reason to rightfully place homosexuality as a fetish.

  • Sexual orientation is genetically for survival, but not fetishes

    The whole genetic sexual orientation is there for survival instincts. It's something you can train yourself to ignore if you're working with a bunch of attractive people, and something you can manipulate with the way you're grown to not feel the same way towards it. Getting raped is one way of doing so. The traumatic emotions can override the desire to reproduce with the other gender as a survival defense mechanism.
    And my personal experience is that I developed a lot of weird fetishes by being a loner as a kid, and each of those fetishes (including things involving other men) have started being overrode by years of different experiences I've had with the other gender and my own.
    I honestly cannot say that sexual orientation is something you cannot ignore when fetishes are supposedly something you can ignore. I can ignore my fetishes just as much as I can ignore a pretty girls attractive traits. Just as much as I can ignore some unspecified fetish porn I can still be turned on by every once and a while.

  • Genes don't read science journals...

    Homosexuality is a fetish because sexuality is simply an aspect of the natural, innate, "survival instinct" within all lifeforms on Earth (including humans)...

    Genes are programed to reproduce and this manifests during and post puberty as a impulse to "pro-create"...

    This is where the animal magnetism draws the polarised (i.E. Opposite) genders towards one another to facilitate in this timeless ritual of joining of their dna to produce the new offspring of the next generation...

    Nurture (as has been proven time and time again) can however over-ride the natural instincts of humans - through education (or mis-education), government policy & law enforcement, media propaganda, peer presure, cultural doctrine all aspects of "social engineering" ~ hence "political" correctness (denoting it is of a governmental (mind-control) agenda and origin).

    So there is no "gay gene", because it's very existance within nature would surmount to it's own genocide (and defeat the very purpose of and reason for it's being)...

    And if there ever was such a gene (in the distant past), it's very existence would have guaranteed it's own destruction aeons ago... You certainly wouldn't see it's surge in the homosexuality existing today... It would no longer be.

    As for recent scientific discoveries and interference with natural mating procedures... Genes don't read science journals on surrogacy or in vitro fertilization.

    So yes, homosexuality (or any deviation from natural sexual behaviour for that matter) is a learned and accustomed 'fetish'.

  • Maybe not fetish but I understand what you mean

    You do not choose to be gay or strait but you also do choose to be into feet or smoking and I can assure you that you can not choose to ignore a fetish and more than to be gay it is just as much a part of you. According to Miriam Webster a fetish is : a strong and unusual need or desire for something so it could be applied to this or about anything really. However I think the base of the argument here is if you are born or not born gay and I believe the answer is both there is period in a persons life when there desires develop I believe the right stimuli at the right time could make a non-genetic gay become gay. Also if it was the difference between finding someone to be with and be happy or not I think allot of people would choose to be gay if they could. Unfortunately I also believe that some peoples misguided attempt to "fix gays" makes any argument that people are not born gay sound like your siding with this concept it is not. I can hold the opinion that is possible to not be born gay and the opinion that that it is ok and does not need correction at the same time. Lastly having a conversation like this is not an attack on the gay community and even if somehow science proved there was no genetic link it should in no way matter or negatively affect how people choose or must live there lives. Anyone attempting to correct gays is wrong regardless of what side is right.

  • I wondered this as well

    Kinks and fetishes are regarded as abnormal sexuality. Generally the reason for having sex on a biological level to procreate. However humans are complicated and can develop fetishes for a number of reasons. Some people have feet fetishes, penis fetishes, butt fetishes. Now there are a lot of people who LOVE gay content who are not gay. Gay is very popular in fandoms where a lot of people who like shows will ship two males or two females. Even a lot of fans who are not gay. There are some people who dont really have sexual interest but still have interest in romance/porn/gay porn. So this is a very good question. If we right it off as a fetish vs a sexuality its still an anormality but it doesnt means its WRONG, its just different. Now while fetishes are abnormal, they are not easier to change than a full-blown sexuality either. So simply putting it in the category of fetish wont make it more okay to say "YOU CANT BE GAY". So while I do think its possible that GAY is a fetish, even if gay people are not gay because of a fetish, I do believe there is such a thing as a GAY fetish for none identifying gay people.

  • Homosexuality is a fetish in the same way that heterosexuality is.

    A fetish is something that you need to get off. I as a straight man would have a hard time getting off to another man, much in the same way as a gay man would have difficulty getting off to women. So in that respect, they can both be seen as fetishes. However, since homosexuality is a "deviation from the norm," I'd say that makes it a fetish more so than heterosexuality. The thing that makes this difficult for some people to consider is the negative connotation, but if you take it down to only the definition, it's something worth considering.

  • It is not!

    When did you chose to be straight? Why would someone want to be gay if they had the choice? Fetishes can be ignored, sexual orientation can't. Ask a homo if they would chose to be gay if they had the choice. I bet you they would say no. If you had the choice, would you be Gay?

  • Doesn't jibe with the definition of the word

    The dictionary defines fetish as " Something, such as an object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification." Since homosexuality is neither an object, nor is it a part of the body there's really no basis for calling it a fetish any more than heterosexuality is. Someone with some moral issue with it could possibly argue it's a sexual deviancy (though I would disagree vehemently), but it most definitely doesn't fit as a fetish.

  • Doesn't fit the definition.

    Just to be sure I looked up several definitions of both words. And I came to the conclusion, that "homosexuality" doesn't fit any definition of the word "fetish".
    The only definition it could possibly fit is the following: "any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation." Bot only if you interpret the word object in a more abstract way, meaning that everything is an "object". But then, being sexually attracted to anything at all would be a fetish. So not only homo- but also heterosexuality would be a fetish. The only way to not have a fetish according to this interpretation is to be asexual. As this is not only a rather questionable interpretation, but also strips the word "fetish" of any meaning, I do not count homosexuality as a fetish.

  • Even Sigmund Freud says it's okay.

    There is a difference. A fetish is an attraction to an object (i.E. Clothing, shoes, etc.) or nonsexual body part (i.E. Feet, mouth, etc.).

    It is abnormal in the same sense as left-handedness is abnormal. Left-handed people are a minority, as are gays. Lefites have their disadvantages (having to use special tools and instruments), as do gays (inability to have a baby without a proxy.) But they also have their advantages (being more intelligent for lefties, being more civilized for gays.)

  • Preference for a certain gender isn't a fetish. Even it's not nearly as common as heterosexuality.

    I think if a sexual preference is based on sex/gender, then it is not a fetish. Anything other than that, such as attraction to animals or objects, is a fetish. People develop fetishes as a result of circumstances in their life; they are not "born" with it. With homosexuality, however, it definitely seems that people are born that way.

  • No It is Not!

    First off, it's disgusting that someone would boil homosexuality as just a fetish. It's a part of a person. It's what they are born as. Do you have any idea how insulting this to gay people? You can't just try to label gay people as just for sex. This question makes me sick


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BiffMcBang says2014-09-09T18:33:37.173
Actually it makes perfect sense, just not by the poster's specific logic. A true sexual fetish is NOT a choice, it can't be ignored, & is in gact a requirement for arousal. The fact that the people who "defined" it said it's limited to just objects, doesn't make it correct. A fetish doesn't HAVE to be an object, it can also be an idea, or scenario concept. The associations that the brain makes during the infancy stages can develop into ANYTHING, & you would potentially be non the wiser about when those wires got crossed. And as you grow & learn social basics via peers, you start to realize fairly early on that it's a difference, & even somewhat embarrassing/shameful. Like you feel like a weirdo, pretty much. But the point is, you're not born with it, nor do you consciously choose it. It just develops unintentionally before you even have a real awareness memory-wise. I believe attractions to tits&ass are forms of the same thing, just the default version. The socially normal, "cool", "ok", & "normal" fetishes that nobody would feel ashamed or awkward for, y'know? We have to remember: sexual fetishes are NOT some closed case, perfectly explained science. We could be looking at the whole picture wrong. But from my perspective, homosexuality & sexual fetishism do indeed have many similarities behaviorally.