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Is modern day feminism counterproductive to western society?

  • Sexism towards men exists to, but i don't hear feminists talking about that

    If feminism were behaving correctly, then no, it would not be counterproductive. However, this is not the way it is. The modern feminist movement seems to think that this "equality" they are "fighting" for, only means that good things would happen for women. Equality is a double edged sword. Women continuously convey the fact that the work place is an area of inequality for them. This is true, i will give that to them. Women should not be payed less than men for undergoing the same job. Equal pay is not the only part to equality though. I don't see any women fighting to be garbage men, or janitors. They only want the jobs that seem good to them, like doctors and lawyers. Leave it to the men to do the things that need done. That is sexist and is not the equality they are supposedly searching for. Also, it is only sexist when a man does it. If a man were to hit a women, he would be called a monster, no matter the circumstances. If a woman were to hit a man, she would be considered a heroine. If women really want to fight for this "equality" that they don't think they already have, then they need to understand that some things will get harder for them as well.

  • Yes, absolutely

    Feminism is a bit of a misnomer as feminists generally do not appreciate the traditional feminine roles of remaining at home to raise children. Feminism's goal is not to make men and women equal but to make women into men. It encourages women to leave the home, put off marriage and family formation, and focus more on career. In the long run this does not make either women or men happy.

  • A good apple turned bad.

    I as a male can say, that once apon a time feminism was a worthy and healthy cause. Now it's just a cause for women to gain power, by crying inequality. The issue facing feminism now is that so many men and women are waking up to it. Things like women against feminism, are now prevalent, where in the past they were scorned apon. I as a male often feel suppressed, as anything seen as stereotypically manly is bad and suppressive! But how is say example riding a harley suppressing women because it may scare them?

    It's not. It's just a certain group of people see it as manly and therefore bad, so it shouldn't be done. (Not that women can ride aswell!).

    Not all feminist are bad, but like extremist Muslim groups, these sour apples taint a once good cause.

  • Completely agree with this.

    The whole argument of feminism is a waste of time, by arguing that you are not at an equal standpoint with men, and by continuing to do so, you are placing yourselves in the position of being a "victim". We have focused so much on becoming equal, that we have become unequal.

  • Feminists purport sexism

    Modern Feminism in it's current guise is counter productive to modern society because it purports sexism and quashes equality. The largest majority of Feminists seem to believe in the concept of positive sexism. There is nothing positive about any kind of sexism or racism. Positive sexism only creates a culture that condones sexist behavior. It does not matter whether is men being sexist to women or women being sexist to men. Any kind of sexism is detrimental to society. What is most detrimental is Feminist Women claiming a moral high ground while behaving in the exact manner toward men that the feminist women claim is detrimental for women. When Feminist Women act out their accusations it only crates distrust form the women they are supposed to be representing. In western society less than 10 percent of women will claim to support the modern Feminist movement while any researcher will be hard pressed to find a woman who will not claim support women's rights. As long as the modern feminist movement continues to have in a sexist manner toward men the overwhelming majority of women will fail to support them.

  • What exactly is your point?

    Go live in any middle east country for just one day then come back and you'll probably appreciate usa a lot more. Go live in any middle east country for just one day then come back and you'll probably appreciate usa a lot more. Go live in any middle east country for just one day then come back and you'll probably appreciate usa a lot more.

  • It Promotes Delusion and Fails to Solve Anything.

    All the area of study does is highlight with supporting evidence that the world isn't fair and never has been fair. The emphasis is mostly on how it was unfair for women and that it still seemingly is; it spends too much time agonizing over this instead of teaching girls how to succeed in it. Instead of teaching girls how to compete with their male counterparts in common areas and professions of interest, they are teaching them numerous ways to complain about it and that any man (and even woman) that doesn't agree with the ideology is a bigot, an incompetant or an oppressor. The area of study is ultimately producing countless delusional women and men that think forcing the ideology onto other people that don't agree with it will make them righteous heroes instead of pursuing careers that involve immediately rendering assistance to people in danger or need such social work, law enforcement or the medical field. Radicals in this field of study are not capable of understanding or accepting that people will never all agree on all of the same subjects whether it is belief, politics or even pop culture which would be the only way to make their absurd ideas of creating an "global equality" work. Even if it did, there would still be no way to make every person equal as not everybody is financially stable or born to wealthy parents, not everybody has the same talents, and certainly not everybody wants the same things. Instead of teaching people that the world could be something that it never could be, teach how it actually is so nobody wastes their time screaming and crying about it and instead learn how to play the individual hands they have been dealt and even how to make their own luck.

  • It Promotes Delusion and Fails to Solve Anything.

    All the area of study does is highlight with supporting evidence that the world isn't fair and never has been fair. The emphasis is mostly on how it was unfair for women and that it still seemingly is; it spends too much time agonizing over this instead of teaching girls how to succeed in it. Instead of teaching girls how to compete with their male counterparts in common areas and professions of interest, they are teaching them numerous ways to complain about it and that any man (and even woman) that doesn't agree with the ideology is a bigot, an incompetant or an oppressor. The area of study is ultimately producing countless delusional women and men that think forcing the ideology onto other people that don't agree with it will make them righteous heroes instead of pursuing careers that involve immediately rendering assistance to people in danger or need such social work, law enforcement or the medical field. Radicals in this field of study are not capable of understanding or accepting that people will never all agree on all of the same subjects whether it is belief, politics or even pop culture which would be the only way to make their absurd ideas of creating an "global equality" work. Even if it did, there would still be no way to make every person equal as not everybody is financially stable or born to wealthy parents, not everybody has the same talents, and certainly not everybody wants the same things. Instead of teaching people that the world could be something that it never could be, teach how it actually is so nobody wastes their time screaming and crying about it and instead learn how to play the individual hands they have been dealt and even how to make their own luck.

  • Feminism is outdated.

    In the past when women were constantly inferior to their husbands and lacked the right to vote, feminism was relevant. In certain countries where religions or cultural customs are oppressive to women, feminism is relevant. An afghan woman who has been a victim of true gender oppression under the Taliban is entitled to feminist attitudes and believes. In modern day America feminist is just wrong. Despite the racial and sexist hysteria the media perpetuates on a daily basis, America is a significantly progressive country. Yes, we have flaws in incidents of violence and discrimination, but there isn’t a single nation in the world that doesn’t suffer from the defects of basic human nature. As a country we have oppressed minorities and genders but instead of recognizing our progression we tend to let the past fester. If we strive for gender equality, the concept of feminism is actually hindering our progression. Feminist draw unnecessary attention to sexism and promote hypersensitive attitudes towards all things gender related. If we want to live in a world where men and women are seen and treated as equals we should stop letting feminism act as a divisive barrier between men and women. I am a woman and see feminists as hypocrites. Feminists feel victimized by sexism; however, they are more sexist than the average sexist male. Feminists are labeling an entire population of men as monsters. They are anti-men. They insult men who are successful CEOs, politicians, and leaders by crediting their success to an inflated societal view that men are superior to men. We can blame any individuals success on their advantage or being white or their advantage of being a minority. I am not saying that sexist people don’t exist, women aren’t objectified, and stereotypes don’t exist about women, but I am saying concepts like feminism and black history month is what keeps a barrier between races and genders. It is counterproductive to discuss women’s rights in 2016 when there are several institutions in place to prevent discrimination based on gender in terms of employment and college admissions. Women who blame the payment gap between men and women on misogyny are choosing to ignore the facts that statistically women are less productive as men. It is not because women have children it is supported by extensive statistical analysis. Do not forget, I am a woman. If I value female empowerment so much then I will be the CEO of my own company and start my own business so that I can rise about gender pay gap and determine my own income. Our country isn’t perfect and there will always be the occasional bigot. We need to understand as a country that intolerance is a character flaw instead of blaming all of society for being sexist. If you are an american women today who feels you are a feminist, please ask yourself why.

  • The meaning is obscured.

    In modern societies, there are too many people who are actually sexist against men. So when they identify as a "feminist" It creates a negative connotation for the word "feminist" or "feminism". So it obstructs the objective of "feminism" which is to seek equality for both genders based on educational, political and social standards. Which is why the word "modern" is a big deal in the title saying "modern day feminism". In a modern society, religion and tradition don't have a powerful grasp on the government. So no specific order or class can create oppression towards women in general. In modern societies, the oppression of women is uncommon compared to societies with long established traditions and religious standards in which women are oppressed, such as the ancient civilization of China. In "western society" women have the resources to communicate ideas and views very easily. As a result, its easy for people who are sexist against men to share and spread their views and further that view, creating more unproductive conflict, arguing for recognition of superiority. Productive conflict would be arguing for equality, not trying to flip the tables. If "modern day feminism" in western society was more backed by people actually fighting for equality not superiority, it would be more easily accepted by the general population. But since so many supporters of "feminism" in western society are really just people who were raised to believe, or evolved a view, that men are inferior, the topic of feminism is met with hostility because the meaning of feminism is obscured by the sexist people who identify as feminist. Its common to hear from both genders complaints about people who identify as "feminist" ranting about something which is in itself sexist. Many sources have had to interview real feminists fighting for equality just to try and fix the image of feminism. "Feminism is not a bad word" said one feminist in an interview conducted by Buzzfeed.Com. The feminists had many other comments to say to try and reconstruct the image of feminism. Although there is a fight being made to correct the image of feminism in western society, its harder to change a view than to create one. Once a person has experienced these "man-eaters" who claim to be feminists, its generally hard to change the perception of feminism after that.
    "Modern day feminism" is too corrupted by these "man-eaters" to efficiently fight for equality, and have it be met with graciousness by the general public. So, currently, "modern day feminism" is counterproductive to western society. The steps to having equality be truly accepted in western society starts with correcting the major perception of what feminism really is. Then having people actually be willing to change their traditions and views to allow the changes to be made efficiently.

  • I think Absolutely NOT!

    Modern day women are showing time and time again that their voices need to be heard. Whether it be Hilary Clinton, Sandra Fluke, or even Elizabeth Warren, they prove time and time again that their ideas are needed to keep our country moving in the right direction. We need more of these voices and less of the Todd Aikin's of this Western World.

  • No, it is still relevant and useful.

    My understanding of the feminist position is that it supports the rights of all people to have equal opportunity. Our society today practically requires women to be more engaged in the world than in days past, and for men to be more engaged in family. Things have actually changed in a way that families can be flexible in regard to changes in their circumstances. It is more important than ever that people be flexible enough to move out of traditional roles if they need to. The ongoing dialog between men and women and their expectations of each other is a healthy thing to continue.

  • No Of Course Not

    There is still so much work to be done for women that disregarding feminism is what is counterproductive. We still live in a rape culture, women still don't receive equal pay, they are still objectified and culturally conditioned to see themselves as less than men. So no, modern feminism is not counterproductive to western society.

  • You are actually incredibly ignorant if you think that the answer is yes

    FEMINISM means gender EQUALITY BOTH WAYS, yes, society is often sexist to men stating that they shouldn't experience emotion or should be the main income provider etc etc, BUT FEMINISTS ARE LARGELY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS AND ALLOW MEN TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN EXPERIENCE EMOTION OR NOT FEEL WEAK IF THEIR FEMALE PARTNER EARNS MORE THAN THEM ETC AND TO TRY AND HELP MALE SUICIDE RATES DECREASE, so if you think that feminism is counterproductive for men, you couldn't be more wrong.

  • Literally, go back to 1803 because we don't need you conflagrating this wonderful movement.

    Feminism's goal is complete and total equality. User UnIgnorant claims women don't want the dirty jobs? Well why should they? It isn't like it's fun cleaning up after everyone, and as people they should have the choice to decide what to do with the rest of their lives. Nothing is going to get harder for us. In fact, from here on out it's a roller coaster that only goes up. You think women have it easy? Think again! I have never heard of cis, white, hetero dude-bros walking down the street at night clenching their car keys as makeshift daggers. Nor have I heard of them staring their drinks down at bars as if their life depends on it. I haven't heard of them being turned down work because they were traditionally 'not fit' for the job. Men run the world, effectively creating a society that runs on whether your genitalia faces inward or outward. The world does not, and should not revolve this way. As people you should be at the liberty of doing with your life what you see fit; be that forgoing traditional female roles or embracing them. Feminism is a fight for equality.
    We fight for the men and women who don't feel comfortable in their own skin because they're too "feminine" or "masculine" or lack such qualities altogether and instead opt to ignore such titles. We rally for those who have been abused and maltreated regardless of gender, sex, orientation or circumstance. To say that feminism is counterproductive to western society means to imply that (other)gendered individuals should be denied their basic human rights. And, debate dot org, let me remind all of you, human rights violations are always looked back at as grossly misinformed and disgusting. Was not the US founded on the principles of promoting the general welfare and securing the blessings of liberty? How does treating people as second class citizens coincide with these ideals?

    All in favor of saying feminism doesn't fit western society's 'ideals' is ridiculously misinformed and is in need of an unbiased re-education in terms of feminism and what 'western society' stands for.


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