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Is racism even living up to its legal definition anymore?

Asked by: MrMicrochip
  • Yes, much more cloaked

    Racism has evolved over the years to more covert means. While the days of Slavery and Jim Crow are over, racism still disproportionately affects minorities. Minorities are 7 times as likely to be tried and found guilty for an offence against a white person than the other way around. Many of these statistics also affect being charged for illegal drugs and substances. Recent studies also show that minorities still face covert job and housing discrimination and are lead to buy houses in minority neighborhoods. Most people would be outraged by this, but the GOP does a great job of claiming white victimhood to avoid being accused of holding racist feelings for minorities. However, I would say that racism is waning as the younger generations of all colors realize that this is the 21st century. But still, racism is strong.

  • Racism is real

    Racism lives and is more prevalent today than any time since MLK. We need only look across the page at D. Keller's response for examples

    "I can be called racist for saying that "A higher percentile of black people commit crimes than white people."

    Racism is the belief that humans should be divided into subcategories according to physical characteristics and that cultural assumptions may be derived according to historic corollaries. Observing that black people commit more crime than white implies that pigmentation is a prime factor in criminal tendency. In fact, biologists confirm that melatonin has no connection to crime. Criminologists observe that wealth, enfranchisement, education and upbringing are major crime indicators. Since blacks are over represented at the bottom of these indicators, we may reasonably expect to see more black crime.

    "From this, we can conclude that black people are more prone to commit crime." Is that racist? "

    Yup. When white people are treated the same way as blacks are in America, they behave with the same tendencies (Basque minorities in Spain, for example, or Irish minorities in New York in the late 1800's). Skin Color is not a factor, social status is the key.

    "it's statistics, and a reasonable conclusion based off them."

    Well, we haven't cited any statistics, (I'm confident they're out there) but we may not call your conclusion reasonable without looking at a larger group of contributing factors. Are blacks more likely to be arrested than whites for the same crime? Yes, according to US Govt statistics compiled since 1992, by a significant margin. Do blacks receive harsher punishment than blacks? A black man in Chicago is 8 times more likely to do time for the same crime than white, according to Cook County studies. Does enforcement overemphasize black crime and minimize white crime? Look at the discrepancy between penalties for crack cocaine vs powdered cocaine for answer.

    Sorry to pick on Keller for my reply, but it was impossible to ignore.

  • Racism is Real

    Racism lives and is more prevalent today than any time since MLK. We need only look across the page at D. Keller's response for examples

    "I can be called racist for saying that "A higher percentile of black people commit crimes than white people."

    Racism is the belief that humans should be divided into subcategories according to physical characteristics and that cultural assumptions may be derived according to historic corollaries. Observing that black people commit more crime than white implies that pigmentation is a prime factor in criminal tendency. In fact, biologists confirm that melatonin has no connection to crime. Criminologists observe that wealth, enfranchisement, education and upbringing are major crime indicators. Since blacks are over represented at the bottom of these indicators, we may reasonably expect to see more black crime.

    "From this, we can conclude that black people are more prone to commit crime." Is that racist? "

    Yup. When white people are treated the same way as blacks are in America, they behave with the same tendencies (Basque minorities in Spain, for example, or Irish minorities in New York in the late 1800's). Skin Color is not a factor, social status is the key.

    "it's statistics, and a reasonable conclusion based off them."

    Well, we haven't cited any statistics, (I'm confident they're out there) but we may not call your conclusion reasonable without looking at a larger group of contributing factors. Are blacks more likely to be arrested than whites for the same crime? Yes, according to US Govt statistics compiled since 1992, by a significant margin. Do blacks receive harsher punishment than blacks? A black man in Chicago is 8 times more likely to do time for the same crime than white, according to Cook County studies. Does enforcement overemphasize black crime and minimize white crime? Look at the discrepancy between penalties for crack cocaine vs powdered cocaine for answer.

    Sorry to pick on Keller for my reply, but it was impossible to ignore.

  • Racism is real

    Racism is a belief that humans can be divided into subspecies based on physical characteristics and that cultural distinctions may be assumed based on historic correlarries. To borrow D. Keller's classic example from the NO column, simply observing that blacks commit more crimes than whites concludes that there is a biological connection between pigmentation and criminal behavior. Even an elementary understanding of biology or sociology rejects Keller's statement and advises us to look at poverty and disenfranchisement as relevant factors in criminology, not skin color. There is every reason to believe that an oppressed white minority behaves similarly in the same underclass circumstances (Basque minorities in Spain, for example, or Irish minorities in 1890 New York). Keller's superficial crime statistic fails to note that blacks are more likely to be arrested and then more likely to be incarcerated. Cook County estimates that a black drug arrestee in Chicago is 8 times more likely to serve time than a white person arrested for the same offence. The Disproportionate justice skews every superficial crime stat. Legal definitions of racism vary by circumstance, but racism is holding America back as the arguments provided by the No side have established.

  • Racism is about hating a group for their ethnicity.

    Now-a-days, a business can be sued on grounds of racism (which is kind of sad that someone can sue you because of your opinion) just because they didn't hire a black person. We have gotten to a point where racism is about disagreement and having different opinions that you don't like.

    I can be called racist for saying that "A higher percentile of black people commit crimes than white people. From this, we can conclude that black people are more prone to commit crime." Is that racist? No, it's statistics, and a reasonable conclusion based off them.

    Now, we simple call racism on someone for saying something about us that we don't like. The NAACP is getting bad about that. They sued Hallmark for making a graduation card that compared the entire class of that year to a Black Hole ready to consume the world (in a good way.)

  • Racism is not.

    People nowadays are defining racism as what it entirely is not. You can favor the color white over the color black, and instantly people call you racist. It's getting out of control and really stupid. Black and white people can't even argue anymore without racism being called. It's annoying and needs to live up to it's legal definition: The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. So as to distinguish it as...

  • I don't think so

    The whole racist thing has gotten out of control, for "minorities" at least. If you don't like white well that's okay because its plain anyways, but if you don't like brown well then that's an issue.
    If a person of color is arrested "it's racist" even if they stole a tv or shot a little old lady. It's to the point that when some one calls racism I get pissed at them, "they're not racist youre just stupid".

  • Racism isn't the same

    Racism used to involve serious inflictions upon massive groups of people. This is nothing more than a fluke for a child who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and happened to be high at the time, It's not like he was out doing something innocent at the time.


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