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Is religious faith more important than morality?

Asked by: missmedic
  • Yes, It Is.

    This is under the assumption that you're meaning that we can't be moral without religion.

    It's religion that makes incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and all the like not allowed. What is morality without religion? It's science.

    Facts About Morality Without Religion:

    It's okay for me to have sex with my sister, daughter or mother if she is of age, it's consensual, we're using protection and no one is being harmed.

    It's okay to have sex with my dog, because she's in heat and I've trained her to be sexual with humans. It's consensual because she wants it and she is of age for her species.

    It's okay for me to freeze my dead wife's body and have sex with it, because she said so in her will, therefore making it consensual.

    Why can't I crap or piss in my wife's mouth when she wants it and loves it, as do I?

    And much more;

    Rebuttal to those who disagree:

    In all technicality, without religion, there is no grounded morality which tells me I can't do the above-mentioned things. As you could see, it was all consensual, and no human or animal rights were being impeded on. So who are you to judge if I partake in such things? Why are such things illegal? Because of majority opinion? What of the majority opinion on homosexuality?

  • This life is only a smaller part of a bigger picture

    Morality will serve you for your life but religious faith will serve you for eternity. People say that you can profess to be religious but then do bad things. But if you really accept God into your heart and into, your life part of that is living in the way that God would approve.

  • Morality is always the better choice

    It is apparent that morality isn’t derived directly from religious texts, but perhaps a reflection on history can show that religious people are morally superior to nonbelievers. The Crusades, Inquisitions, witch hunts, genital mutilation, 9/11, and many more events have been used to show the cruelty of religion, but to reuse those examples would be unfair to modern day Christians. I am sure Christians have lower divorce rates than nonbelievers. Nope. Perhaps they have lower incarceration rates. Nope. They must have lower premarital sex rates. Nope. Lower drug and alcohol abuse statistics? Nope. This shows that Christian statistics are consistent with everyone else; that doesn’t sound like being the light of the world to me. If a personal relationship with god doesn’t guarantee a moral lifestyle then what does?There are plenty of atheists that CHOOSE to do good because they get a sense of joy knowing that they have made the world a better place by their choices. If morality came from god then atheists would be predisposed to sin and unable to do anything contrary to their sinful nature. Isn’t it possible that some Christians CHOOSE to do good things and would likely do them even if there was no god? This would also explain why some Christians CHOOSE not to live moral lives. If morality came from god then there would be evidence to show that religious people are consistently more moral than nonbelievers, but this isn’t the case. Morality appears to transcend religion and seems to be based on individual CHOICE regardless of religious beliefs; if one can be good without invoking god then what is the benefit of preserving the dogmatic belief that morality is from god? Morality is a natural phenomena with origins that we don’t fully understand, but evidence reduces the probability of a divine origin.If you want good people to do bad things you need religion.Faith is pretending to know things you dont know.Question everything.

  • No religious faith is not more important than morality

    People can profess faith and not live moral lives. Morality is a way of living and doing the moral thing as you see it. It is a living thing you can see and feel. Religion is an inner belief that can be expounded upon, but may not be lived morally everyday. Many people who are religious live lives with high morals intertwined with their faith. But not all religious people have a high morality that is exhibited in their daily life.

  • The two behaviours are orthogonal

    Ludicrous. Faith is completely irrelevant to moral behaviour, as a quick study of the moral behaviour of atheists and the faithful will demonstrate. It is just that religions like to claim to be the source of morality. Moral behaviour has evolutionary roots in the benefits of a social species cooperating in a reasonably predictable (but, it turns out, not entirely reliable) way. It's a prisoner's dilemma played over and over. Some people play nice more that others, and are considered more moral. At best, religions codify and try to encourage/enforce what their societies regard as moral behaviour. But they don't seem to be very good at it. They also tend to make moral issues out of things which are basically just ignorant prejudice, such as homosexuality.

    Religious people always seem to be really messed up about what other people do in their bedrooms. Honestly, just get over it, and try to behave with the tolerance that Jesus is reported to have done.

  • As a generalisation, morality is enough to fulfill a human life

    For example: not killing anyone, not stealing, not destroying peoples lives, and keeping ones duties. If a person could do all those things, even if they didn't have a strong sense that the Universe cared about people, they might feel that life was best lived morally. So they would develop an inner sense of what God is about by valuing stuff. If a person believed in the Universe caring about people, but did something bad like prostitution or working in an abortion clinic, they wouldn't fulfill the existential purpose. So VALUING morality comes first. But if a person practiced morality, but they did it just for "comparing theirself" to others, it wouldn't be the same. So: morality, practiced with the intention of valuing morality, is spiritual enough for a person to have God-sense. Morality practiced for reasons of being competitive wouldn't give a person a lot of God-sense, but might give some God-sense. And someone who had faith in the Universe but didn't care about morality, has failed the existential purpose.

  • If all religious men were moral

    Then we would not have had the crusades during which tens of thousands of innocents died nor the sexual abuse of minors carried out by religious ministers. Being religious is not the same thing as being moral, and neither is being atheist. Morality is dependent on the person themselves, their faith (or lack of faith) does not change their true nature. If you dont mind another example, then allow me to point out that the KKK are a group of religious individuals, and if you consider them upstanding signs of morality, then you are the one who absents morals. Countless individuals i personally know live their lives just fine without subscribing to a faith and amazingly without being morally depraved savages.

  • Religion's only justification is to minimize suffering.

    The only reason that can justify the deliberate abandonment of scientific achievement and progress is for the overall reduction of suffering. This, unfortunately, is not what is observed in religion. Religion is consistently against the improvements that people gain towards peace and equality, a prime example is the unjustified hatred of homosexuals. If people approached decisions with open-mindedness instead of ignorant, bull-minded faith this world would be a much better place to live.

  • No because religion doesn't = moral

    Being religious doesn't guarantee that a person is good and moral in any way. Being a moral person with or without faith is more important because it is more genuine than someone who uses faith and their beliefs in what the laws of the bible are to determine their morality, especially as most people will twist it to fit whatever they want to do anyway.

  • No because religion doesn't = moral

    Being religious doesn't guarantee that a person is good and moral in any way. Being a moral person with or without faith is more important because it is more genuine than someone who uses faith and their beliefs in what the laws of the bible are to determine their morality, especially as most people will twist it to fit whatever they want to do anyway.


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