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  • It represents a nation based around slavery.

    I have no idea how so many people disagree. This flag represents a nation, quite literally formed under the sole pretext of being racist and enslaving blacks. This is the same nation in which the KKK was formed. I don't understand how a flag that represents slavery is not inherently racist. Someone please explain...

  • The confederate flag is a symbol or racism.

    The confederate flag may have started by being a symbol of succession, but it was also the brand to show off white power. It is a symbol of a time when white people wanted to keep slavery and not participate with the American belief that all men are created equal. The flag stirs feelings of slavery, discrimination, and hate and thus racism has found its symbol in the confederate flag.

  • South was founded on racism

    The confederate flag was formed when the south succeeded after a ABOLITIONIST president was elected. The southern economy was fueled by slavery and thus their flag is symbolic of racism. Racism is dehumanization and dehumanization allows for nuclear war, genocide, and other terrible repercussions. The confederate flag cannot be allowed because it allows the mindset of dehumanization to continue.

  • Ask yourself some questions

    Slavery was the most significant reason - by far - for the southern states succeeding. Were "state rights" also an issue? Sure, they were a big issue - the southern states wanted their "state right" to own slaves. Plain and simple, slavery was the cornerstone for the succession. This fact cannot be ignored. The Confederate Flag didn't exist before the succession. It was created during the war, specifically to represent southern military units, who, keep in mind, were fighting primarily to uphold their "state rights" to own slaves. Were they also fighting for other things? Sure, but it doesn't change the fact that slavery was at the top of the list - maybe not for every single individual, but the confederacy as a whole. So if you support the confederate flag, what are you really supporting? Are you completely ignoring when, and why, it was created and substituting what it really represents with your own reasons? You're entitled to support the flag based on what it means to you as an individual, and it doesn't necessarily make you as an individual racist, but you can't ignore that the flag's origin is a symbol for military units who fought a war to support slavery. If you simply want to show "southern pride" or your heritage, why not choose something that's not so deeply rooted to slavery supporters? That is, unless you're racist.

  • It is a symbol of a place and a time that supported race-based slavery.

    The Klu Klux Klan flies this flag. Do we really need to argue this point? People who like this flag need to find another way to express their pride in a place that once supported slavery and treason. Finally, the losers in any war are never allowed to fly their flag once they have lost. The Confederacy lost. This seems fairly simple.

  • Slavery is Racism

    If the confederate flag is representing a time when African Americans were bound to slavery, how can you possibly say that the Confederate flag isn't racist? For those of you who thinks its just a flag, either your ignorant because of the knowledge that your apparently lacking or you are undercover racist. GET REAL

  • Anyone Who Knows History...

    ...Knows that indeed the war was not about "states' rights," or any other such nonsense. The myth of the Lost Cause and all the apologist claptrap that has come down to us since then may suggest the war was about anything but slavery, but the real history, including the declarations of seccession, tell another story. The flag and its cause are racist and always have been.

  • Confederate flag is controversial

    As any ad agency will tell you, perception is reality. It does not matter what whites think. If blacks perceive the confederate flag to be a symbol of racism, then it is. How can you tell someone they are wrong about how they feel about something? Just ask the ones who fly the confederate flag.They don't like to be told they are wrong. It seems to me, though, that if the flag flyers had any compassion, they would realize they are being hurtful and take the flag down. How hard would that be?

  • States' Rights argument Falls Short!

    Those supporting Southern Secession based on states' rights are avoiding the issue. They seceded because they refused to give up the practice of enslaving other human beings. This argument is simply a way to avoid accountability for an outrageous atrocity [slavery] perpetrated in a nation founded on liberty. Don't be persuaded by the states' rights argument--it misses the real issue.

  • The flag supports slavery.

    The confederate flag seems like it would represent racism because the southerns used it to show there pride, but they are being proud of slavery. The slaves were black, look at a primary source. There was no WHITE slave. Why? Why not slave a white person? I understand that back then they may not believe we are all equal, but we all have the same feelings inside. Every black person has feelings just as whites. We get sad, so do they. We get mad, so do they. Enslaving the blacks is not fair at all. So, because they have different colored skin then us it makes us better than them? There are not just bad black people, there are bad white people as well. If you go to jail, don't expect to see just black people, you will see whites too. So how did that make us any better? Exactly, it didn't.

  • No

    The flag is not racist. It is a symbol of patriots who were willing to die to protect this country and make sure it remained as the founders intended. Slavery was never the reason fir the war but only an excuse to start one.Lincoln could care less if slavery remained and is on record stating such, even offering to make slavery legal in the Southern states in return for the South compromising their beliefs. In contrast, Jefferson Davis had a written plan to end slavery within five years. We are still fighting the same battle as was fought back then. Freedom with as little interference frim the federal government as possible. Teach children the truth and it will sit us ALL free.

  • NO this flag is not a symbol of racism

    If you think the Confederate Flag is a symbol of racism you need of a history lesson. The Northern economy depended on slavery, And so did the Southern one. rebel.belle has a point, The US flag flew over slavery for 86 years, the Confederate only 4. Ho ever says otherwise is ignorant.

  • Nonsense

    As a history teacher and a Stanford historian, I am shocked at the dismantling of southern history based upon the mistaken assumption that the Confederate flag is representative of racism. Look at any photograph of the Klan when it was at its height, you will not find a single Confederate flag but plenty of United States flags, shall we then ban the US flag which flew over far more suffering under its name?

  • History is written by the victor

    History is written by the victor. The North won the war, so they get to write the history of why the Civil War was fought, saying that all Southerners were racist slaveowners, yet 90 % of Confederate soldiers did not own slaves, and there were some black Confederate soldiers. What is being taught to the youth of today os warped. What's next? That the Civil War was fought over vampirism?
    You can educate ignorance, but you can't fix stupid.

  • The symbol is not racist

    If the misuse of a symbol trumps its original meaning, then the SWASTIKA, a symbol used by Hindus would forever be tarnished by the NAZIs.
    Yet the SWASTIKA adorns many temples in India and no one calls them NAZIs.
    Likewise, the Confederate Battle Flag is not a symbol of "white power", nor slavery, nor hate.

  • No, but the Stars & Stripes is

    The Stars and Stripes flew over American slave ships, which mainly transported slaves from Africa to the Caribbean and S America. It flew over the New England states, particularly RI and MA, where prominent families made fortunes in the filthy slave trade, it flew over the US Army units that oversaw ethnic cleansing of American Indians during the Trail of Tears and later conducted a campaign of genocide against the Plains Indians from 1860 - 90. The Confederate flags flew over army units that integrated blacks and whites together and defended their homes and families against and cruel, brutal, murderous enemy that waged "total war" against the South, including civilians, women and children, white and black.

  • Confederate flag is NOT racist

    This is our history and our heritage. The war did not begin over slavery but over manufacturing and trade problems with the north. Just because certain groups have used the confederate flag in hate related crimes or racism does not make the southern flag racist. Racism is Southern Americans NOT being allowed to display their history

  • Which flag?

    There were (are) more than one Confederate flag. The 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Nationals as well as the Battle Flag of The Army of Northern Virginia. Then you have all the flags of The Confederate States as well as many more Battle Flags from the various regiments and the different armies.
    Here's a fact for you: slaves were imported into this country under one flag ONLY, the flag of the U.S. Makes it THE flag of slavery in this country, huh?

  • The Confederate Flag is NOT RACIST

    The Confederate Flag is not racist because it did not represent slavery. No slave ship ever sailed under the rebel flag. They sailed under the American Flag actually. The Confederate flag (rebel flag) represents heritage, not hate. It is true that racists have used the flag as their symbol, but no it does not represent racism. I for one, think the flag looks pretty bad ass.
    General Lee, Confederate soldier, was actually against slavery thank you very much.

  • The Confederate Battle Flag is not a racist symbol, it is a Christian symbol.

    The war that is called the "Civil War" was actually the "War for Southern Independence". That was all that the South wanted was to be left alone. Slavery was as important to the Northern economy as it was to the Southern economy. However the Southern economy was so important to the North that they would not allow the Southern States to become independent. Slavery was horrible and would have ended with or without the war.


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Anonymous says2013-07-21T12:57:36.447
What do you think of when you see the flag above? What message do you think it sends?

Racism? Slavery? Hatred? White supremacy?

Something worse?

Now, what do you see when you look at the flag? What is actually on the flag?

The color Red? White? Blue? Thirteen stars?

Is that all? See anything else?

Look closer and take some time to actually think about what you are seeing. Examine every detail of the flag and it's design, because the layout of the contents of this flag actually portrays the true message the flag is sending.

And for the record... Neither the design nor the content have anything to do with racism, slavery, hatred or white supremacy... Or anything worse!

All the COLOR could be removed from this flag, leaving just the outline of the details, and the true message the design is sending could still be determined by anyone with a basic knowledge of history and an ounce of common sense.

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First of all, this flag is NOT the "Confederate Flag." It is the "Battle Flag of Northern Virginia." This design, however, is the one most synonymous with the term, and the one used in various forms on many of the other flags that were flown by the Confederate States. It is also the one most hated by those who are completely and totally ignorant of what it stands for.

So take another look at the flag and answer this very simple question : Do you see a big letter "X" anywhere on the flag? What if I were to lay that X down on its side like this? : Do you see it now? The X is formed by the big, blue bands which are outlined with white trim.

Now take another look at the flag. On this big "X" there are thirteen white stars. See them? Do you know what these thirteen stars represent? They represent the thirteen original, united colonies from which the United States began. Each one of these colonies had its own system of self government... Until the start of 'northern aggression' when the northern states began trying to usurp authority over the southern states. This was the main cause of the Civil War.

Point of fact : The thirteen stars on this flag appear to lie on the blue X... But in reality, the X lies on the stars, allowing them to shine through.

Now, a simple question : Do you remember from your grade-school years how the teachers would sometimes ask you to circle the right answers or picture on a work page, or to put an X on a picture or word or other item that didn't belong in a group? That is the same concept this flag is designed around; the stars are laid out in the pattern of an X, and the blue bands are put on the thirteen stars to show that the southern states no longer wanted to be a part of the union with the northern states. In simpler terms, the message of flag's design is simply this... CROSS US OUT of your Union! The southern states withdrew from the union in a movement called "secession," which led to the Civil War.

That is the only message this flag is sending!

That is all there is to it!

It is just that simple!

If this flag actually represented slavery, hatred, white supremacy, or something worse, as so many biased and uneducated people so foolishly believe, then it's design would reflect that by incorporating images of those whom it stood against, and there would be a big X on their images.

But that is NOT what is on this flag!

And that is NOT the message this flag sends!

This flag is NOT racist! NEVER has been! NEVER will be!

And as I stated earlier, all that people need to have to be able to see and understand this obvious truth is a basic knowledge of history and an ounce of common sense!
Anonymous says2013-08-06T17:37:51.377
Look at the Stars and Stripes of the USA - The same flag that has been flown when we entered an imperialistic era, capturing territories for ourselves to exploit for resources. The same flag that has been flown in the era of Manifest Destiny, when we pushed Amerindians off of their own land and confined them to live on reservations. The same flag that had been flown by Union troops as they had burned down civilian homes, while carpetbaggers ruled and exploited the war-torn South, which drove many Southerners, driven mad from hatred, to form the KKK, an anti-Black and anti-Northern terrorist group. The same flag that had been flown when we dropped two atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing 150,000-246,000 civilians.

Does this mean that we should change our own national flag, because of our own dark past associated with it?
Liadan says2013-10-07T00:45:20.113
You left off the last sentence which shows the TRUE Confederate Flag...And its not *this* one.