They belong in the kitchen, not in offices. It's the males job to make the money and provide for the family. The only jobs that women should be responsible for are cooking, cleaning, and pleasing their men. It really bothers me that women think they can actually make a living on their own...
I believe that female issue are given highlighted more than male issues. They get more media attention and more sympathy. I think there shouldn't be that much discrimination between both sexes, because I think there should be equality between them. There should be some international forum where there is equal representation and issues discussed between both sexes should be highlighted there.
Since society is so careful about not being sexist, people do everything in their powers to make predicaments appear like they are not sexist at all. Such actions actually may appear sexist, but towards males instead of females. Females receive more attention because of this caution society takes to not be sexist towards females. Therefore, female issues are placed first in priorities compared to male issues.
Please let me first state the fact that I am a female. However, I do not agree with giving women or any minority a leg up because of their sex or race. This country has proven the fact that there is no more need for affirmative action when it elected the first black president. The aspect of feminism that was to show that women are equal to men was wonderful however, it has since been made law that all human beings no matter sex, race or creed, have the same abilities and opportunities. Over the past decade or so I would have to say that the one who is now underprivileged is the white male. He is the only one who does not get some kind of compensation through the NOOW, ALCU or any other kind of special interest groups. To do so for a white male they say would be racist.
The very thing feminists fight for are the very things they are taking from men. By arguing for their rights and social status, they are taking the light away from other minority groups and male groups. I believe radical feminists are some of the worst kinds of people, and they need to step back and look at what they are doing.
All I can say is the fact that we even have to call sexism against men "reverse sexism" is sad. ALL discrimination based on gender is sexism, its not just a woman's problem. Do you know men have been laughed at when telling police they were raped or molested by a woman or another man. There are teachers who have raped 10 year old boys and walked free, simply because it wasn't "CONSIDERED RAPE"! Why? I'll tell you why, it was because the victim was a boy. That would have NEVER happened had it been a male teacher. We can yell sexism at pretty much everything in the media, but completely turn a blind eye to true sexism. I have seen women speak about being pro-choice so proudly (like it is an accomplishment to have opinion) but I have never seen them talking about a women getting acid thrown on their faces for disgracing their families. You see a pattern? Now look, I am a woman and I strongly support equal rights, but to bash and degrade men to pull women up is disgusting.
Feminists claim to seek equal rights, which is, by all arguments, an essential way for humans to move on without prejudices. However, they equate identity and ability, which are totally different concepts. If a guy asked a girl to make her a sandwich, he would be called sexist by most, if not all, feminists.
The fact of the matter is that the female is deemed to be better at making sandwiches, just like how the male is assumed to be better at mechanical chores. Hence, it is more common to hear females asking their male counterparts to help them "fix the computer" or "fix the car". As such, it is a question of ability, and not that of identity. The practice selective discrimination, like for example proclaiming chivalry is long dead, yet failing to realise that chivalry is a result of men feeling SUPERIOR to women.
I think it is quite unreasonable to think and create a reality where there is absolutely no prejudice at all. Prejudice will always be a part of life no doubt about that but it does not give females a right that their issues are more important than men.
In an ideal world, women will obviously not get raped or prejudiced against simply because "she is a woman" but in our reality, that is just..not that case.
Women get raped.
Women are prejudiced against.
Women are unfortunate because their emotions often override their rational portions of the brain.
However, in an ideal world, women would be attracted to men who are nice.
Should we start a foundation that supports nice guys?
Or should we simply accept that life would never be perfect and teach, educate and allow people to understand how to cope with themselves and the implications of their actions on other people?
You tell me which makes more sense practically.
Feminist are trying to be find the shortcut to success without actually doing hard work. Why aren't they fighting for the equal opportunity at a low paid, physically demanding and dangerous jobs. All I see is a bunch of half naked feminist running around the street with "Slut Walk" pics and demand the 50% quotas on a well paid and highly reputed jobs. Surely if they want the job they have to work hard for it (OF COURSE NOT BY RUNNING AROUND THE STREET HALF NAKED WITH A BANNER).
I've known many feminists before, including one of my teachers this year. Keep in mind that I too am a woman. Well, this teacher of mine basically hates all men. All the guys she's had she acts weird around, or pretends like they're doing something wrong when they never were. I had her last year too, and that was when I had two guys in my class (this year I have none; yeah, all girls, imagine how pleased that lady is) and she always assumed they'd lose all of the papers and books we got for assignments. One time, this one big kid (big as in huge, muscle-wise, not overweight) was leaning back on his chair stretching and my teacher told him to stop because "he would break the chair because so much tension on it will cause it to snap." What? You don't just say that to people. And yet, she did, right out loud in front of everybody. The kid knows how sexist against men she is and was really annoyed with her from that. This year, one of our arguments for a book debate that we had to do is to determine whether the author was a misogynist or not because the only three female characters he put in his book were annoying and died. That's it. I was one of the only two who picked the side that he was not a misogynist, because assuming he's one is just ridiculous.
I do agree that women do still have some disadvantages, but they all need to suck it up and move on because we're all human and they're trying to become higher than men in the world by dominating over the fact that "men are still sexist these days." Colored people have freedoms now but they're still disadvantaged in this day and age, also once the gay rights are passed (they better be, even though I'm straight) you know there will still be "that's gay" comments. People who were once disadvantaged in the past are going to still be slightly disadvantaged in the future, no matter how many rights you stack on top of them. It's basic fact. So pretty much any straight white man will get by in life pretty easily these days. Women will too if they stop complaining. Jesus Christ, people don't even complain about racism anymore as much as you women do about feminism. Just calm down already.
92% of all prisoners are males, who serve sentences that are 50% longer than females convicted of the same offenses. Capital punishment is reserved almost exclusively for males. Over 80% of the homeless are male- ask yourself if you'd be more disturbed by the sight of a man or a woman living under a bridge or shivering in a cardboard box on the street. Violence against men is dismissed as humorous (especially if it involves sexual mutilation) or as being deserved, "he had it coming". Twice as many males as females lack any health insurance, we spend half as much on health care for men as health care for women, and when it comes to sex specific diseases (prostate cancer and testicular cancer in males, breast, ovarian and uterine cancers in females) we spend 5 times as much for women, even though male specific diseases kill as many people as female specific disease. To dismiss male issues as trivial or non-existent is absurd. When you're a safe target for bigots who routinely portray males as stupid, lazy, dirty, worthless and deservedly destined for extinction (and who ironically inveigh against "sexism") a real problem exists.
The idea of Feminism at it's core is not suppose to be sexist but it creates an unfair playing field for male issues. It tries to solve all the unbalances between the sexes by only addressing female issues. Back when gender roles were still accepted because it was expected in darker times for men to provide while women did house work because that's how things worked best and both sides had somewhat equal Rights to Responsibilities (varies from culture). In this day in age these gender roles are no longer needed and feminists attempted and succeeded at fixing core problems. But it creates a problem as well. The majority of feminists only go after issues that benefit them and don't go after the ones that would hinder them in anyway. Again with Rights to Responsibility, the Majority of feminist go after all the Rights, but never the Responsibilities, and became men's issues aren't taken seriously, men can't argue to be relieved of the same responsibilities or to put them on women. To be honest I can't say I blame these women as much as I blame the flaw in how Feminism is operated as a whole. Not all feminist are like this though, I know quite a few that fight for these responsibilities because they feel as if society thinks they are inhibited vs a male.
Feminism is wrong and sexist because they call anyone who doesn't support them a bigot, which means all men are bigots. The goal of feminism is to make both genders equal but they expect more than men, this also is possible that they're sexist to their own gender. Sexism means discrimination against one gender. Sexist is also expecting one gender to do something they did in the past(e.g men are expected to do work while women do housework). Feminism wants more than men, not equal rights because they don't care about men and think that women are the world. To the people who say some feminists are sexist, not all, have you even met one?
What I mean is that all ideas are better than the people who attempt to practice them. Unfortunately, if you were to look as critically at women as you do men, you would find that the majority of people IN GENERAL are lazy, stupid and corrupt. Male and female. That being said, right now it seems to me that men are the only ones being examined under a critical light, and it defies all logic and common sense to say that this is a movement about equality.
My opinion is that the average person looks at the word Feminism, then looks the definition of Feminism, and dismisses the idea of equality altogether. Why?
Because FEM-inism is about women, not equality. That's the problem right there. IT'S IN THE ROOT OF THE WORD.
Feminism has become a fat, intellectually lazy power grabbing troll who lives off of enmity towards men.
Feminists want to gain equality, but want to gain it by addressing only the problems of one gender instead of addressing the problems of both genders. You don't hear hardly anything on TV or do you have a month about testicular cancer or Prostate cancer, but you hear about breast cancer everywhere you go instead.
Feminism is the battle for equal rights for women and men. Unfortunately, many women who don't consider themselves to be feminists and even feminists themselves only care about themselves. For example, on one particular CBS talk show, a group of women were talking about a case where a woman had cut off a mans genitals. THEY WERE MAKING FUN OF HIM AND LAUGHING. One woman eventually said "if a man had mutilated a woman, there would be uproar" to which another said "this is different" there are many examples of this. For example, many adverts and TV shows portray men as bumbling, drunken, uncaring idiots, but do women care? No, they are complaining about cortana showing too much cleavage in halo. Meanwhile men sit quietly as the stereotypical male on TV is hit in the face with a swing. In summary, the idea of feminism is a good cause, while feminists must think that the word "equality" in the definition has "wink wink" written next to it.
No matter how you look at feminism, at any level, it is in a basic form, sexism against males. Most women look at it as a source of falling back when they've been hit hard, emotionally or physically. After that, they become radicalized and they show their hate against men and the things they've done or things they do (what they think) and blame problems of society on men. If feminists are so strong and strong-willed, why do they use nothing but insults and stereotypes created by them, and use them against men?
Mind you, your average feminist might be a rape victim or an abuse victim. Yes, rape and domestic abuse is bad, but do you blame all men, or the one that caused you the pain? Maybe if the women didn't run blindly into a relationship with someone who would hurt them, they wouldn't be hurt. Maybe if feminists would start to look at themselves and realize that they are the problem, everyone would be happy.
Feminists have created the gender gap intentionally. Women have all the options yet are reluctant to take on responsibilities. One example: A woman can give a child up for adoption, keep the child or have abortion. The man does not have any choice in this yet is required to support the child and the mother financially for 18 years, even if she had lied about her contraception.
How about the fact that men work longer, until 65 years old, and live much shorter than women who can retire at 60 years old and live much longer? How about the junk science of women's studies showing how victimized women are and have been? Glass ceiling rubbish! There are so many issues that feminism has created and standards are not any better, as a recent study has shown that women now are even less happy than they were three decades ago. In Finland there is a sexist law stating the 40% of board directors must be women – this in itself is gender bias. How about lower test requirements for women to get into the armed forces yet we do not lower tests for overweight men? Are there any other standards lowered because of a person's gender? No. I believe women can achieve greatness on their own merits. To think otherwise and provide women with so much encouragement says she can't do it. Therefore feminism is sexist.
By focusing on how problems effect a specific group of people (i.e. how sexism effects females), it has entirely excluded males from it's problem solving, ergo, making it sexist in it's outlooks on problems, and a completely non-gender equality movement. It's for the advancement of women, not the advancement of people. An excellent example of this can be seen when it comes to rape, in that rape is socially viewed as a crime perpetuated by males against females. This view is reinforced because of Feminism's death grip on public opinion. This notion has become so prevalent, that the FBI defines rape as something that affects specifically females, and not males, and goes on to state that rape against a male is "Sexual assault", which carries a drastically lower sentence. This is despite the fact that males and females are raped in equal numbers. This is what happens when you try to solve sexism with sexism; you just generate more sexism, just in different ways. Instead of thinking about ho rape, domestic violence, gender roles, or what have you, effect WOMEN, we should be looking at how those things effect PEOPLE. We shouldn't be attacking violence or sexism against women, we should be attacking the very idea of violence and sexism, so as to bring about a benefit for ALL people, not just one specific group, which is what Feminism seeks to do. This makes it a sexist movement, and therefore, one not deserving of respect.
When you call something "feminism" it naturally becomes "about women". If it was called "The male and female equal rights movement" then it would rightfully claim to fight for equality. And of course this is demonstrated today, where feminism has created huge inequalities at the expense of men.
The best example is Gloria "I will sue anyone for a pay check" Allred. She will take the side of any woman, regardless of the cause, or even if there has not been any wrong done to her. Her perceptions are all skewed toward the idea that men are bad, and that their goal is to take advantage of women.
Feminism is sexist, because it gives female issues much higher priority than male issues. Any time that one group is favored, another group is dis-favored. Allowing more rights to one group denies rights to another group. The only path to justice is blind equality, with all groups being treated completely equally. The NFL should be able to require that a center weigh 300 pounds, or the NBA should be able to require a center to be at least 6'8" tall, without feminists screaming discrimination. Doctors should be able to require surrogate mothers to be female, without gays screaming discrimination. A little common sense, with a heavy dose of justice, goes a long way.
The feminists are sexist because they promote female issues with no consideration for male issues. Discrimination is the exclusion of a group. The feminist objective to take control of society excludes males, which is blatant discrimination. Affirmative action is discrimination against white males. Special scholarships targeted to minority groups or women only are also discrimination.
Feminism is based on the valorisation of females in society. Unfortunately, it also seems to be based on the depreciation of males. Women are seen as persons who are either oppressed or used by men. And as a counterargument, these same women overreact and establish themselves at the center of society, relegating men to the roles of the enemy and the oppressor.
Chivalry, in majority, is NOT a sexist practice. it acctualy says you should treat a woman better thatn a man because shes a woman. And it says I cannot expect any kind of reward from her for the acts (yes I do mean any). but they kind of got me in a bind. If I practice chivalry, I am accused of trying to get in her pants. If I don't, I am considered sexist because it is assumed that I am mistreating her even though I, at minimal, treat women with the same respect I would treat any man if not considerably greater.AlWAYS.
The society revolves around women and has extended to them police powers. The laws are written for women, It is a matriarchal society that is set up for women. Men are absolutely neglected and economically disenfranchised. The realities of this surround us from suicide, to the lack male college enrollment to the incarceration rate. Sadly all of these things point to war on the horizon. A dark day is coming for all women.
Equal rights come with equal accountability, as well as equal treatment. You can't call men sexist, rapist pigs, and pretend that even speaking to a woman in a way she finds displeasing is "rape" without ascribing to your personal sense of insecurity or projecting some other such issue onto the defendant party. The issue here is that fascist feminists exaggerate the meaning of rape, and they use the word liberally as ammunition to defend themselves against damage that equates in no way to actual rape, physical harm, or inequality. The truth of the matter is that feminism has become more about replacing a male dominant society with a female dominant society. They no longer want equality, they want control so that they can remove inconsistencies on a micro-management level rather than a macrosocietal level. It's less about removing wage inequality and more about forcing employers to hire half a workforce of females, even if the field in question has fewer qualified females for the jobs intended than males. It's ideological sloganeering at this point. Equalitarian pursuits died after the Civil Rights Movement and the enactment of women's suffrage because the pursuit of equal accountability and carrying weight died out when people started being spoonfed apologies for whatever they felt they should be apologized to for. Take, for instance, the over-reaction "apology" culture of the racial conflict. In order to apologize for past wrongs done to racial demographics we've handed out free rides to college for Native Americans and African Americans, while subsequently making it harder for a conservative white male who identifies as a male human being, to make it into any respectable college. The excuse used for this is that the "diversified" population of the college campus promotes an air of tolerance, while rejection promoted the prestige of the college.
The issue here is that the needs of any racial demographic not included in the apology culture is consistently blamed for more crimes the more they try to defend the growing conflict surmounting their efforts to become better people. A man of ANY race who identifies purely as male as well as being heterosexual can be accused of rape in ANY court, and it will most likely result in his being jailed, losing his job due to incarceration until and if he is proven innocent, and will most likely be jailed for the fullest possible sentence. This happens because the judge and the jury are afraid of being accused of the same demographic-based crimes, by society, that the micro-society of the offended party is a part of. Males are afraid of being accused of oppression by feminists, so they don't speak out against fascist feminists talking about a "castration holiday" or words like "mansplain", and most are also afraid to talk about the raw in-your-face sexist nature of accusations viewed as actual rape and punishable therefore as the crime, while the male has not physically touched a woman.
Read above. Feminism is in its title intrinsically sexist only allowing debate of gender issues. We live in a society in which males are neglected in education and discriminated against in the law eg in some countries females cannot commit rape, which is misandrist and archaic. Feminism is too flawed to continue, that being said I agree with Gender equality but that does not make me a Feminist and I do not wish to be defined as such.
Feminism used to be about equality. However, the days of the Pankhursts are over and now women are finally equal to men in several ways. Still, lots of feminists claim that none of this ever happened and that women deserve more than men, even though men have an equal amount of gender-related problems. For example, a man cannot hit a woman, yet a woman can hit a man as much as she wants. More money is spent on women's cancer treatment than men's. More men are raped than women (someone else has pointed out this), if you count prisoners (which I do), yet how often are men helped with this? None. Yet even if a woman implies that someone "raped" her, the accused man is instantly considered guilty (even in countries with 'innocent before proven guilty' court systems). Since when is it fair to disregard these problems completely? All this proves that feminism will not achieve equality, but female domination. What we really need is a mixed gender equality group.
Like most groups who have been discriminated against (and are still discriminated against) feminists seem more concerned with pushing their own interests instead of pushing for equality. This can easily be seen by the "there are not enough women in [some male dominated field] and this must be fixed." This leads to programmes to encourage women in these fields. Handled correctly these can be effective and lead to women taking up a career they would not have considered before. All good. But these same people don't push for corresponding programmes to encourage males into female dominated fields. That is they push a female only agenda.
In addition, any special interest promotion programme can lead to inequality and all the associated anger and negativity. For example, giving female new graduate recruits extra help and promotion opportunities over their male contemporaries. This is not levelling the playing field, this is sexist.
VAWA, Duluth model, MGM, workplace deaths, no men's shelters despite them being half the victims, erasure of great women throughout history, claiming women were never "allowed" to work, treats us like volition-free infants, denies men can be raped or abused or even outright blames them for their abuse and if they fight back even once after years of suffering he is the bad guy and her years of abuse was just "pre-emptive self defense". They co-opted the term "rape-culture" from male prisoners who wanted to raise awareness of the fact that men are 2/3 of rape victims when you include prison (half outside it). They say we don't understand then conveniently say they won't even bother looking at our data or proving us wrong. Because nothing says "your argument is invalid and here's why" like " I don't care about your sources, you just don't understand the complex nature of feminism, it's not my job to educate you".
The meaning of feminists have gone through changes, I believe. In this day, my opinion is that feminism is used rather as a political tool than a sincere belief in equality.
What I see today is that issues relating to women are magnified by the media while issues regarding men are simply ignored. Feminists today simply tear men apart, blame them for everything and no, not just the men - feminists hate non-feminists. If you looked at what happened at Melbourne lately, feminists grabbed posters, trying to hinder the freedom of speech, and acted aggressively towards peaceful demonstrators.
It's not a beautiful sight. So what kind of feminist are you? The traditional feminist wanting women having equal rights as anybody else in the planet or the modern feminist wanting revenge and hating on men. Today, political feminists are essentially female sexists.
We should strive on equality between everybody NOT giving priority on one over the other.
The whole point of feminism is EQUAL rights. So if female issues are given a much higher priority than male issues it defeats the whole point of equality. I believe its wrong for a man to be abusive towards a woman, but on the flip side, feminism does NOT justify the abuse or harassment of a man in any way (verbal, physical, etc) without repercussions. Women who do so are just as bad as the males they claim to hate.
Watch the amazing atheist's videos, there are some excellent clips of feminists there being ironically so FOR EQUAL RIGHTS, but calling all men pigs, rapists and "rape supporters" (lol). They are a disgrace towards the feminists of the "good old days" and deserve no extra respect for the attitude they take towards others.
This is seen a s a problem by feminists because when men die, women have to support themselves (usually on the dead man's life insurance). During an economic downturn in Canada, feminists raised the alarm on the issue that the proportion of workplace fatalities involving women had increased. That this was due to a decline in deaths among men working in dangerous industries and no increase in actual fatalities among women was ignored. This reasoning values the lives of women higher than the lives of men.
I used to consider myself a feminist, but then I actually started to think about feminism. The truth is that its very design is rooted in fighting sexism with sexism.
The idea of feminism is that women have been victims of a society run by men. If feminism truly seeks equality among the sexes, why does it not address the suffering and tribulations of mankind as well? And further still, why is it called feminism? Why not equalism or Humanism?
Because whether fairly or not, any feelings of victim hood require that an outside force be demonized, and feminism is ultimately based on that demonetization. It says that men who are oppressed cannot be sympathized with because they were once oppressors. It says that bullying victims cannot be justly called out for becoming bullies themselves. And when called out for this behavior, it throws accusations of misogyny around so it may hide behind it like a coward.
I cannot see why any rational human being could advocate such a philosophy. By these very principles, I also cannot advocate masculinism. It is Secular Humanism that this world needs. When we try to correct the problems of one group, we invite ego and self-righteousness.
Feminism was created to get equal rights for women. Fair enough, but last time I checked women now have equal rights as men. Why do we still have feminism? Ill tell you why. Because a lot of feminists love victimising themselves. So they started rumors that western culture is filled with misogyny and is run by the patriarchy. They cant actually prove this though. And if you ask them to, they'll talk about rape cases where guys get off because of lack of evidence. They wont list any examples. No no no. But its true. Take their word for it. Then you ask her if she can tell you any instances where she was a victim of blatant sexism. And if its anything like the dozens and dozens of feminists I've had to deal with, its stuff like being turned down a job (patriarchy), getting a perverted look from some creepy old man (patriarchy), or some other possible/partial event of sexism (obviously patriarchy). Yes, this is definitely no different than the actual oppression of women in Iran and Saudi Arabia. I was actually having an online debate with a 24 year old American feminist last night who was telling me that if we had equal rights, women wouldnt have to put up with creepy guys checking them out. And after about 20 minutes of arguing how we cant take away men's freedom of speech, I asked her "so you wouldnt like any guy complimenting you on your appearance at all?". To which she replied "I wouldnt mind it if they were attractive". When I responded to her about how shallow and borderline sexist that was, she stopped responding. I dont need feminism. I need it gone.
Men are heavily disadvantaged in society because of expectations of people that women should be held in high regard. That is social pressure that makes laws completely in favor of women. The "workplace" inequality is rather a business model that adjusts to women's ability to give birth and accounts for it. So moral and social vs a workplace model. The ball is in the female court.
Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites. Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites.Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites.Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites.Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites.Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites.Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites.Feminism is ruined by so-called feminists who are just straight-up bigots and hypocrites.
The definiton of sexism is "Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex."
The problem with this is that it is so vague that any judgement someone makes about a woman, taking her sex into account could be considered sexist. I think it's silly because there are many important differences between men and women. To ignore them is to unfairly represent both genders. Yet to take these differences into account is now labelled 'sexism'. I don't even know what gender equality is supposed to mean, since, as I said, there are important differences between the genders. I do not need to explain these as they are pretty obvious to anyone who has ever had interaction with a member of the opposite sex.
To me this whole 'sexism' charade seems more to be a load of people who think they have the right to dictate to others how they should think. I say thought is not a crime. If a man has 'sexist' thoughts so what? Who defines what is sexist and what isn't? And how does a thought harm anyone? If, say, a woman is raped, then sure, that needs to be dealt with. But if a woman is raped, it's not sexism it's rape, plain and simple. Sexism is the definition for thinking something that might offend someone else. Judge people by their actions, not their thoughts, and start calling things what they really are instead of using blanket terms to incriminate entire genders.
The other problem I see with feminism is that it artificially divides everything along gender lines. You even get feminist versions of history. This is as ridiculous as Karl Marx claiming that the history of the world was the history of class struggle. It's just someone's bizarre prejudice against rationality. Many feminists want to have a 'theory of everything' where they are never held to account for their actions or have to share any blame.
Now I know many out there will say that extreme feminism has ruined the image of most 'normal' feminists. If this is so why do you continue using a label which is so obviously associated with such extremism? Even moderate feminists have still not been able to explain what they mean by 'gender equality'. Firstly what is it. Secondly how do you implement it. And when I say you, I mean YOU. In a lot of cases feminists want the government to intervene. When they ask for this intervention it is they who are now the oppressors, since it is they who are wielding the weapon of the state for their own personal gain. If however a woman travels and speaks to people, persuades and encourages them to adopt new ideas based on argument and rationale, I see no problem with that.
To sum up, my two main problems with feminism is that their definitions don't make sense and they are prone to using the state to get their own way, rather than voluntarily
I chose yes to this question because of one thing. First, what is feminism? It's a movement to obtain rights for women. This is, of course, worthy, and speaking as a woman myself I am grateful for the feminists in the past who have made it so much easier to be a woman in the 21st century. However, when speaking with extreme feminists, it is obvious to me that they are often doing what they do to victimise men. Prioritising women's issues is just as sexist as prioritising men's issues. Somehow, feminists often aren't viewed as sexist, whereas switching the roles over so that a man was acting like many feminists do, and he would immediately be labelled as a sexist swine.
Domestic violence, rape, unequal pay, FGM, divorce and child custody, and anti-female double standards are some of the main issues that feminism claim women still must struggle with. We all know this because we've heard it over and over .... And over again since the day we were born. Father's rights, paternity fraud, the right to abort any rights and obligations to an unwanted baby, workplace deaths, disproportionately high suicide rates, circumcision without consent, the boy crisis in education, anti-male bias in Family Courts, and the lack of sufficient funding dedicated to male-specific health issues are only a few issues, off the top of my head, that need to be brought into the spotlight. Even more important and fundamental than any of these is the basic right to talk about the issues we men face without the fear of being labelled whiners, rapists, child molesters, or misogynists. I have yet to see any feminist organization protesting on the streets, storming the Capitol, hosting fundraisers, or lobbying for male-specific issues.
Feminist women are completely irrational and simply pathetic on the whole. I was today given a dressing down by a feminist for holding open the door for her. She completely ignored me repeatedly informing her that I do this for everyone. I am sick to death of hearing how harshly treated women are. It is complete fact that white men are the most discriminated against group.
Feminism is defined as a 'theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes' according to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary. I myself am an egalitarian and believe that in the past and throughout 95% of human history, woman and indeed all females were horribly mistreated. However, in the past two decades, even more so after the turn of the new century, women have more or less been equal in most, if not all, aspects of politics, economics and society.
However, some woman still believe that they are being mistreated and continue to actively participate in feminist activities and rallies. Whilst there is absolutely nothing wrong in doing so, I feel as if feminists forget that feminism is about EQUALITY. There is an increasing number of cases where women and females have been portrayed and treated differently by the media, usually to support the woman or female in situations where a man or male would be condemned. For example, I'm going to use the case of Catherine Kieu, in which she dismembered her husbands genitals, and how many females and women agreed with her actions to the point where the victim was openly mocked on a national US television show, 'The Talk'.
I'm going to conclude my argument by just reminding everyone, feminists or not, that it is perfectly fine and in fact a good thing when people take a stand for equality. It is disappointing to see some people abusing the label 'feminism' in support of women's actions even if they are wrong. This undermines the work of REAL feminists bringing about a positive change and a better life for women all across the globe.
If feminism was truly the pursuit of equality how can it promote the feminine side so much in its own title? There are without doubt inequalities on both sides of the gender gap, but so called 'feminism' is not the answer. I wholly endorse the concepts of equal opportunities regardless of sex/race/sexual orientation etc but the feminist agenda is only one of male bashing as it stands.
Most sane males treat females as equals. It is one or two that normally spoil the bunch. Then you get feminists, who never look at the positives, just the negatives, calling ALL men sexist. I have heard feminist say, "I hate when all men generalize women." Rather ironic isn't it? The feminists are so focused on themselves, they become the sexist people that they were once trying to change.
Men were sexist a long time ago, but the culture has changed so men cant even say "Women are not as good as men at sports". Women although can say anything about men and it is all one joke. I dont like it, I am so fed up with this.
If feminist's truly wished for gender equality, they would not only address sexism against women but also against men. Now let me get this straight, i'm all for women's rights but if their social restrictions are repealed, then men's better be too. Ie: If women get equal pay as men, men shouldn't be looked down if they are stay at home dads. Now obviously the social standards of men would take much longer (generations upon generations) to change but it doesn't matter. "Feminists" who claim they wish for equality should fight for that right even if their requests of equal pay, better portrayal in social media, etc. Is accepted. If a "gender equalist" fights primarily for women's rights and totally ignores the obvious acceptance of misandry in today's society, she is effectively portraying that which she fights against. Just my thoughts. :)
Both men and women beat down upon boys and men but nobody can touch women and girls - they are self-serving and self-supporting. Men and boys are maltreated, and it's a funny joke. Women maltreated and either they come out as heroines or they are seen as victims. Not so for men and boys, because nobody cares. You try and discuss issues of sexism from a strictly male perspective in public, and people will come down on you like a ton of bricks. And that is sex-fascism.
In those parts of the world where feminism prevails, white female gender bigotry is by far the most deeply rooted and widely practiced form of bigotry. It permeates Health, Welfare, Education, Justice and the media. It enforces its dogma through political correctness. Having created a negative stereotype of males in general, and the heterosexual white male in particular, feminism goes to great pains to make that stereotype ever more negative, and to sell it to the whole world.
But the most puke-making aspect of feminism is its holier-than-thou approach. "We are the great nurturers" they insist. "We are the compassionate and caring ones." O sure. Great nurturers of girls... Compassionate and caring unto a humanity that does not include the human male...
Feminism is sexist at best.
There was a time when feminism held necessary ideals and worked towards achieving better rights for women. As it stands at the moment however, women more rights then men do in almost every respect.
Modern Feminism has degenerated into needless man-hating which serves to undermine a once good cause.
In the 21st century the balance of gender power has shifted to such a point that it is men who are disadvantaged mainly by gender specific roles.
Feminists seem to believe that it is unfair for the majority of CEOs to be male. However they are more than fine with the number of male garbage collectors, soldiers and truck drivers. They are also perfectly happy for men to pay for dates, hold doors open etc. They are also happy avoiding conscription and military service but believe that they should be able to reap all the associated benefits.
Feminism holds many such double standards where they seek all the rewards without putting. In all the effort. This is not to say that the genders should not have equal rights. Both genders deserve equal opportunities and there are many hardworking men and women. It is however wrong and immoral to expect rewards without effort and to believe that you should get it easy because your gender has suffered in the past.
The feminist movement has always negated this issue. Lets examine some common examples of everyday misandry that feminists downplay in such arguments: recently a man got his penis chopped off by his wife, Catherine Kieu, and American mainstream media show The Talk by CBS showcased Sharon Osborne and other feminists laughing about this matter. Can you imagine the reaction from popular media if a woman suffered such a violent act in America? Or what about the disproportionate fraction of women who win custody battles because they are females? Google common examples of misandry.
I understand that some women are tired of being "oppressed". I mean, there are certain jobs, for example in politics, that women play very little part in. Things like that, perhaps, should be given more of a look at. But then they play on the tiny little, insignificant things: How women are still objectified by some men, how looking beautiful is still a big part of being a woman, etc. This is rubbish.
Yes, I like many other women am thoroughly against being whistled at in the street - but I understand that this is part of the culture in my society and we can do very little to change the attitude of the men who do it. And looking good is just as important for men as it is for women - the too skinny/fat/just-not-fit-enough men of society are considered "beta" males, laughed at by their peers and often shunned just as much - even more - as women, and often by women too. Let's face it, we have a massive effect on men just as they have an effect on us.
Often feminists will fight to the ends of the earth to try and end the rape of women - and good, rape is disgusting and should never, ever be excused. But then, on the extreme end, you have the "feminists" who try to put forward the idea that men cannot be raped. Erm, excuse me? Men can be raped by other men and by other women. Any situation where the victim is unable to fight back and sexually assaulted against their will is undeniably rape.
What I'm trying to say is, men have equally as many issues as women. And the way some "feminists" try to deny or downplay them is just plain wrong.
Honestly, I don't see any point in giving an argument, because it's almost unheard of for people to change their stance on ANY controversial topic by sheer logical persuasion. I mean, seriously - have you ever met someone who was a staunch feminist but got so deeply touched by an online blog that they changed their world-view altogether? I doubt it.
In any case, I don't really see any way to extrapolate on the topic. Feminism is sexist in that it considers female issues but not accompanying male issues. Period. What else do you say?
I treat everyone equally, always have, always will. I believe in equality, and although feminism claims this as its goal, it is by definition biased towards women. Equality should mean equality not a bias towards Feminism or Masculinism. It's been my experience so far though as a male that my opinion doesn't count and that I'm sexist because I don't support feminism. I do however support equal rights for all as I've always given others the same respect I'd expect from them without bias towards sex.
All they do is greatly exaggerate small problems and think of fake made-up problems that women use to justify false actions to push themselves higher up. They use false statements and "issues" to make themselves more powerful, they think they can become higher than everything else in existence. They live on this code, trying to create unfair laws and propaganda. Everyone that thinks feminism is not sexist is just a weak individual influenced by the lies they see everyday. In all this argument only conveys one message: FEMINISM IS SEXIST. Its your choice to believe it or not, but it IS a fact and not an opinion. Choosing not to believe a truth is just living on false lies and beliefs. I gave you the facts, now you make the choice.
The word itself promotes females in a way that elevates them above men instead of working towards equality. The theory should be "EQUIT"-ARISM instead of FEMINISM. It is important to note that Feminists are searching for equality, but get clouded by promoting female empowerment instead of focusing on equal opportunity for men/women with similar qualifications. Ie It is not fair to say that we need to "promote" women in higher positions of power when women DO tend to choose more part-time jobs and graduate with less business/science/math/engineering degrees than their male counterparts, therefore making them (educationally) less competitive. Women (in general) have different goals in life. The emphasis should be on equal opportunity for educational and promotional opportunities while respecting the choices people make and recognizing that gender disparity is partly related to personal choices.
When it comes to domestic abuse, women being abused is viewed as wrong (Which it is) But when it comes time to talk about how men are abused, people are like "Whoa! I don't think so." People generally ignore men's mistreatment and incorrect viewing in society. Women can be given virtual amnesty for murdering their husbands by simply claiming that the man hit her.
The main issues with feminism is they discount any fact or any opinion not of their own. Most of the Feminists will say "you hate women" if you do not agree with them. I do not agree with he way the VAWA act was written or how it is implemented. But I was told I hate women because I disagree with the bill. Not saying women do not need to have protection in abusive relationships, but because I do not agree with the Bill, I must hate women.
I think we need to get rid of all the Battered women shelters, and create battered spouse shelters. Ones where any spouse that is abused can use. Men are abused and women are abusers in many cases, even if Feminists disagree. Ironically, they totally just skip over all the lesbian women who are abused by their female partners. For any Feminists who still think no woman can be a abuser, please read or watch the documentary, "She stole my voice".
All the things Feminism does is to give women more advantages without requiring the same effort or work as the men and women before then has done before. Quotas is an example that shows how feminism will have no issues keeping men that are wanting to get a degree, but can not go because not enough women want to also take the course.
Feminism is destroying our education system, of which our future as a country is created from. Feminism has cultivated and created our obese society. Many kids and college people I meet tell me "Why try, everyone will get the same thing, so why put forth the effort", or "Teachers tell me I will be a rape statistic based only on my gender because "boys" don't get raped, only girls." What are the teachers teaching our children, judging by the grades, it is not the basic skills one needs for being a productive adult.
Recently, I was on the Youtube homepage and clicked on a video I knew would piss me off before I even watched it. The channel is called FeministFrequency. The video was talking about women in video games. I noticed that she never acknowledged anything to do with men. She talked about all the horrible violence female characters are subjected to and how they are treated as disposable. Really? There are many more male characters that get killed and often times, in a much more brutal way. But as soon as female characters are subjected to any violence, it's a problem? I thought men and women were equal. That's what feminism is supposed to be, equal rights and opportunities but in terms of law, we have that now days. Feminists today, complain about anything that could possibly be taken as sexist against women (I'm going to keep using the video game video).
She mentioned the "Damsel in Distress" complex in video games too. She kept talking about how women are used as the motivation for main characters and how they are conveyed as helpless and weak. Any attempt they make to escape is futile because women are weak. Once again I have to call this out. It's not sexist, it's a realistic motivation. Who wouldn't want to save a loved one and/or an innocent person? The fact that they don't save themselves isn't sexist it would just be very anti-climatic, wouldn't it? Imagine going through a Mario game and suddenly the quest is over because Peach rescues herself. Mario doesn't have to do anything and therefore there's no final fight with Bowser. Yeah that sounds like a real epic ending! By the way Feminists have you seen the new (2013) version of Lara Croft? She looks realistic, she's a bad-ass, she's a nerd, and kicks everyone's ass (all the enemies are men by the way). But Feminists will try to find something degrading somewhere in there.
The problem with feminists is their lack of acknowledgement for men's problems. As people have already stated, men are a lot more likely to be punished for a crime because to punish a woman would be sexist. Rape is a good example of this. Nobody acknowledges the fact that women can be rapists or abusive spouses, or that they cheat on their spouses too (I know more women who cheated than men). If a man does something though, then there is a huge uproar. Feminists need to stop playing the victim and actually try to work through their problems rather than complain. They need to learn to acknowledge their flaws (men and many women make fun of themselves), learn to have a sense of humor when some one makes a joke about women (Ex. Sh*t that girls say video), and quit bashing men.
I started studying feminism a couple months ago. I was 100% in favor of it, but I felt my support was too shallow. I wanted to be able to back myself up when talking to people about feminism. I wanted to be a real feminist!
In my quest to learn more, I quickly realised that feminism was plagued by a lack of standardization on many things. It is largely interpretive and inclusive (if you have the good fortune to be born without the original sin of privelage).
This made it pretty frustrating to find out what a "real feminist" was. Largely, it seems like you have to decide that yourself, based on faith or your own experiences.
Still though, I was happy to go along with the vague notion that women deserved good stuff, and shouldn't have to deal with bad stuff. I agreed that women had been unfairly lodged in their gender roles, and should be empowered and applauded for stepping outside of them!
The problem arose when I started wondering "why just women?"
Even if you adhere to the idea of the patriarchy, or you still see oppression on a daily basis, or however you justify your belief in feminism, why not also help men? If helping women vicariously effects men, why wouldn't the reverse be true?
A lot of feminists will say that they do care about men's issues. A lot of feminists will say that feminism adresses men's issues.
A lot of feminists will also say that there are no men's issues. A lot of feminists will also say that men's issues are just "the patriarchy backfiring".
To me, it seems largely irrelevant which point is more "real" in this case, because discussions on men's issues or rights get dismissed, shut down, violently protested, mocked and vilified by feminists. That's not the patriarchy backfiring, that's people having their world view stepped on and reverting to ape mode.
Don't even get me started on the exclusion of LGBT people in feminist domestic violence/rape statistics, or in their general ideology.
It takes not just a necessary gendered view of things (as to address areas where things are unfair to women) but an overly gendered/heterosexual view (so that rape can be reasonably considered impossible for a woman to do since she doesn't have a penis).
Really dissapointed in it, frankly. But if you disagree, I am male and at least a bit straight, so feel free to dismiss this entire post as mansplaining or privelage or whatever.
It's good to disagree with people based on their genitalia/sexuality when a social justice movement supports it.
In the past there probably was sexism directly mainly towards women (I wan't there so I don't know). But I don't understand how people can still carry on this ridiculous division of men and women.
The people who experienced sexism in the past were probably hurt be it greatly, so why haven't we learned from that pain and tried to understand and be kind to each other instead of constantly trying to be better than each other?
It really makes me sad that people don't seem to want to be equals. Feminism is not pioneering for equality, it is trying to achieve dominance through power. This is also true for the groups that focus only on men's rights.
While you people are exchanging hate over trivial matters, some people can barely afford to eat and drink, or live happily in their own way.
The next generation will surpass the one before it (and this cucyle will continue), and I will offer as much as I can to help these generations understand eachother and be done with trivial matters such as this so that they can chase dreams, and LIVE a livfe of no regrets instead of a life full of pointless hate.
It is said that men are very sexist towards women for their strength, their role in the world and the equality of women and men.
Somehow, women admit they are weak and need support for themselves. Women's day, international day of the girl, etc. All bring awareness to male sexism towards females. But this is just supporting the fact that they ARE weak and need support and help and self-esteem boosting. When a women puts down a man, it is considered feminism. When a man puts down a woman,it is considered sexist. Women are just as sexist but get away with it because they are supporting their feminism while a man while be punished.
I say yes because the whole agenda behind this movement is fueled by the New World Order [NWO] propaganda geared towards world depopulation..I know many would go like grrrrr not this crap again but Its true. The intention is to wipe out the nuclear family by altering the sexes. When women start to think like men and/or beg for power and all the rights craze they become masculinated...In the end, its men married to fellow men in women's skin and then strife from the role struggle and then divorce. Also, most women in the feminist movement find no use for me entirely so they never get into any settlements that lead to reproduction....Slowly halting the population process. So yes this crap is sexist, but even more, its an agenda that is geared to use women to 'kill' the men and have depopulation. It runs alongside homosexuality...Its never about the people involved.
Feminism is reactionary in its theoretic reliance on identify politics, perpetuating the theory and practice of categorizing and characterizing people according to superficial physical characteristics. There is nothing progressive about feminism, it is founded upon the same presumptions of sexist, racist theories of identity as the "patriarchy" which it alleged to oppose. Until we can evolve our thinking to perceive our core identity as fundamentally HUMAN, and not male or female, or "black" or "white," then we will make no real progress as a species.
I despair at the attempts to justify the bigotry of feminism. In the mind of the feminist, the absolutes of feminist ideology transcend the facts. In every respect, they insist, women are worse off than men. With this mindset women will never believe they are equal with men, no matter what. Any suggestion that feminism is good for men is pure poppycock.
It is called feminism. Mankind should need no further explanation (see how that works both ways?). I do not need to accept an inherently biased label to consider myself a proponent of equality. The way some feminists I've spoken to attack anything that doesn't call itself feminist and doesn't agree with EACH and EVERY nuance of every popular feminist argument strikes me as an ideological virulence not unlike religious fanaticism.
Self described "feminists" are unable to consider the humanist argument independent of gender often. Feminism has become more like a religious belief rather than a movement grounded in cogent and relevant facts. The simple fact is that we are all human beings independent of gender and until the "gender war" ends we as a society will never be able to truly view everyone as what they are - humans.
I fought with a girl; consider these two situations, having embarrassed by people for not standing up against a girl and being criticized for doing so. It's almost like having your mom to control you for the rest of your life, and you have no rights at all. We don't want that, do we?
I see feminism as a natural reaction to our species diverting more and more of the burden of labour onto hundred million year old energy (fossil fuels). Thus the necessity of male labour in this sense has diminished and there is less holding families together now that necessity is somewhat out of the picture. These options ‘feminism’ has opened up and also lack of obligations (for both men and women) just wouldn’t exist with us the burning of huge amounts of fossil fuels. Yet feminism still seems to feel it isn’t enough, they want more security, safety, etc and despite good intention, it has been at the expense of men in many areas. In fact I would attest that it was our technological advancement through science that has been the most beneficial at reducing these burdens and helping gender equality, not feminism. Feminism merely catalyzed the culture around it as it changed, and not necessarily in the best way, we have lost some very important values from our past in the process.
Feminism has been extremely reckless in its agenda, especially in the second wave. I personally have two male friends who were marginalized by a court system that has been set up to protect women via feminist lobbying. Civilized nations acknowledge that being wrongfully punished or accused of a crime is unacceptable. In most areas of law the problem is relatively small, however in areas feminism has had influence such as domestic violent and rape the number is shockingly high. Anyone who falsifies a police report, or is in contempt of court should be held accountable; this is a serious crime. I studied the economics of law, economists argue that laws aren’t just to compensate a past wrong (backward looking), but are actually forward looking in the fact that they help prevent the wrong doing in the future. Laws set a precedent for what behaviour or activity is acceptable and not. Yet feminists argue that punishing women who falsely accuse would deter other women from wanting to file and they should be absolved of the responsibility. I would argue the opposite, that punishing these women sets a clear message that the court system can’t be abused and would deter people from doing this in the future, and this is extremely good for the actual victims as the cases are now more likely to be legitimate there is more faith in the validity of it. Even despite this, that many men’s lives are ruined (fired from work etc) even when proven innocent is unsettling. False accusation is different from the actual thing, and harms both the defendant and people who ARE harmed from things like rape and violence. Feminism has sent a clear message that the enormously high number of falsely accused men is acceptable in the fight for women’s issues.
All this aside, we as a species now have way bigger issues then gender issues to be concerned with... Let’s get together and cooperate on those things!
You never see women fighting for equality in divorce. Feminists are all to happy to demand equality in day to day life, but when it comes to divorce they want to be able to sit on their butts for the rest of their lives at the expense of their ex husbands. Why the hell fight for equality in the workplace if you want a free ride at some mans' expense? Feminism is unfortunately being hijacked by a lot of scumbag women who do don't want equality, they want the best of both worlds and are getting it.
I married a woman who demanded equality as my partner and I conceded, only to get divorced 18 years later and find that she is viewed by the state as my dependent! Until women grow up, they are incapable of being my equal.
Feminists find a twist to anything and turn it into a sexist issue. The simplest example possible is if men and women ever reach a point where they both work equally (at work and at home), feminists would argue that women are working too hard and that men are sitting at home watching TV and/or bonding with their children.
Feminism used to be a pretty good movement. That is why I feel that the original feminists are heroes. Yet, feminism has devolved into an all out anti-man movement. Even going as far as to say that in a picture that has a woman looking up to a man sexist. Also I sort of defend the patriarchy because it is sort of evolutionary. If you look at the great apes you will see that most of them have groups that have male leaders to protect the group. I believe that since we are great apes that behavior is sort of instinctive. But I digress. In fact Sally Miller Gear heart, a feminist, said "The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." If that's not sexist I don't know what is.
Sexism is rife in society. Some of it disadvantages women and some disadvantages men. An equal rights movement would approach all these problems equally. Feminism is simply about women's problems.
Sometimes feminists have a tendency to overplay these problems with dubious statistics, contextualization statements and cherry-picked data. Many have this theory that because a woman was oppressed in 1897, men cannot be oppressed today. They also like to interfere in other peoples' bedrooms by telling people what they can or can't do in terms of BDSM, gender role-play and pornography.
It is quite simple really. Someone who believes in something becomes part of a group, becomes more prejudiced, and then becomes even more so when they try to defend their self concept. This inevitably leads to two dichotomies, where one can choose power or selflessness, and fall victim to cognitive dissonance and have to face the reality that they are discriminating or justify it by blaming the victim, attacking a group further, and then victimizing themselves. The latter of both of these produces a feeling of dominance, which upregulates dopamine in the prefrontal cortex, a biological pathway that is as addicting as cocaine. By taking power in this way, not only do you take power that does not exist, and is only implied through social maneuvering, but you enslave yourself to that false power. In order to change the world, you must first be willing to change yourself, not others. In order to change yourself, you must first face all your fears and be completely honest with yourself, not run away and hide from the truth. And it is impossible to be honest with others if you are not first honest with yourself. The act of discrimination is an act of cowardice against the unknown. The honest person will know that attempting to accept everyone is selfish and geared towards an amicable environment, admit it to the self, and accept it. That is what it means to be without fear; of others, but more importantly, the sense of lost control from hiding from what is within.
Feminists today are into all-out male bashing, instead of the equality or inclusiveness naturally expected. Women's reservation, dowry laws, child custody battles, rape accusations are all thoroughly lop-sided. Responsibility is lacking in general, but more so with respect to these feminists. This goes a long way in fuelling disparity & ensures that real issues are never addressed.
Feminists today are into all-out male bashing, instead of the equality or inclusiveness naturally expected. Women's reservation, dowry laws, child custody battles, rape accusations are all thoroughly lop-sided. Responsibility is lacking in general, but more so with respect to these feminists. This goes a long way in fueling disparity & ensures that real issues are never addressed.
It wants to improve conditions for women in areas such as career, which is fine, but it completely ignores areas in which women are dominant. Child retention laws, abortion, divorce. You will never see a feminist posting saying "Equal rights in the divorce court too!" For a movement like this to be fair, you need to address all concerns.
Men and women are equal in the eyes of the law. Feminists don't know the difference between a right and a privilege. They make arguments for "women's rights" but in actuality they just want special privileges - like being able to kill their baby because it's financially convenient. If this was actually fair, then the father should also have the ability to abort the baby because it's financially convenient. They also argue that women get paid less and they want it mandated that women get paid the same as men. This is simply not true because if you've taken a basic economics class, you would know that wages are linked to productivity, not reproductive organs. On top of that, a woman is a huge liability to a company because she can go on maternity leave - which could potentially leave very important projects and contracts in limbo, consequently costing the company a lot of money.
Every single argument a feminist brings up has tons of holes in it and the data they use to support their claims (if any is used at all) is biased/cherry-picked and not statistically significant. If you point this out, prepare for some ad hominem attacks against you.
The foundation of Feminism is Patriarchy Theory, which asserts that men as a group opresses and dehumanize women as a group and that this oppression is embredded in every aspect of our culture, language, legal system and even sexuality. This Theory leaves no room for debate and serves only to create a false dichotomy of humanity only consisting of female victims and male oppressors. This view is overly simplistic and robs women of their agency as well as robbing men of their humanity. It is not a position that can be sincerly argued or debated. It is simply vechicle for a victim mentality.
Feminism created a massive lobby that explicitly and exclusively promotes the rights of women. There is no end to the rights and support they demand, often at the expense or at least exclusion of men. Especially in interactions of both genders they justify this "struggle" with the argument that a man is physically stronger and thus able to exert power over the female, so the female needs legislation to give her legal power over the man. The fallacy is obvious: Would the man really exert power, it would be illegal and he'd be punished for it. But for the women to use her legal power is, logically, legal.
We see nonsense like that popping up in a variety of third wave objectives, like "drunk rape": an intoxicated couple having consensual sex is actually rape, since the woman's consent was given in an intoxicated state and thus doesn't count as consent. She is not responsible for her actions while drunk. The man, on the other hand, is now a rapist. He IS held responsible for his actions while drunk.
We see double standards like that even implemented into legislation. And that's not talking about the media, e.g. during the women's football world cup here in Germany, the official slogan in the state TV was "third places are for men" (since the men's team made third place in their world cup a year before, while the women's team regularly won). Could you imagine the outcry if it was "third places are for women"? (Thankfully, our women's team was eliminated after group phase, so they ended up eighth)
Same with Obama, when he explicitly addresses women and says "you can do anything a man can do, and do it better". Imagine it the other way around, and he'd be slaughtered by the media.
Women are to be pampered, catered to, and always to be supported, empowered and treated better than men. Feminism dropped the mask of being for equal treatment long ago.
Men have always granted women what they want, often at their own expense. Our species has a history of making life easier for females. This is the same with many other mammals. This is why feminism is so popular. Men are biologically wired to pay more attention to female complaints.
At this point in time, a man is entirely capable of being the victim of domestic violence, being arrested (standard procedure requires an arrest for domestic violence calls) when he calls the police (due to the Duluth model being the standard operating procedure among law enforcement regarding who is arrested- the practice of arresting whoever, at a glance, seems more dangerous, AKA the male), is capable of being convicted of a crime against a woman with absolutely no evidence to support the charges (a similar circumstance occurs with Brian Banks, centered around rape charges rather than battering charges), and is branded a felon for his life (most recent revision of the Violence Against Women Act being passed that ups domestic violence to a Felony and relaxes the restrictions around what domestic violence is legally considered.)
In contrast, one of the biggest issues for modern Feminism is "rape culture" - which boils down to women being upset that someone will make a joke about rape at some point around them - and one of the most recent issues is the fact that Wikipedia has a gender disparity among the editors, despite the site relying entirely on volunteers who don't even need to create an account to edit anything, because of the idea that it must be "the patriarchy" oppressing them rather than flat out fewer women being interested in records keeping and editing than men.
In all honesty, VAWA and the Duluth Model in the United States, and the chilling effect it has on males subjugated to domestic violence, are FAR, FAR, FAR more important and dire.
Anything that creates 'otherness' leads to discrimination, and having a movement which argues solely for rights for women (even if this is equal rights) is just this. The movement for equality should not be about equality for women, but for all. Furthermore, feminists will argue that only they can understand -- men don't face this sexism -- that men are the problem. This does not lead to equality but only further drifting apart.
Feminism stands for women's rights, and for eliminating men's rights. Feminism says that a woman can do better than a man, and that a man can't do anything. Feminism says men must treat all women like gods, whilst men become the slaves. Feminism says women should be in control of the world, with men simply being there to work for them. Feminism says that nobody should ever oppose a woman, no matter how irrational or sexist they should be. Feminism says that it's okay for a woman to beat a man until he dies, but a man should never, under any circumstances, ever even ask her to stop. Feminism is sexism at its finest.
I'm a supporter of equality between both genders, I just cannot stand men and women who take advantage of others under the disguise of their stereotype
(women = victim, man= indifferent/egoistic because it guarantees success + status).
And yes, as a student I was already in a relationship with a girl before, one year to be exact.
I don't think that feminists are bad, but humanists are more honest, because helping both genders instead of fighting over power is better ( "power is important in most relationships of society").
Each gender has flaws and inequalities to be dealt with, but many feminists just shrug off male complaints as being wimpy, while being opposed to the basic principles of equality, which can only be reached in a fair conversation of all concerned people.
Instead of fighting we should do what former generations were not able to, which means working together for a good society with proud and equal members.
Strong feminist personalities, like Alice Schwarzer, own a big part of the influence which the feminist movement undoubtedly has. Moderate members may get shunned as pro men with their opinion ignored by the rest of that movement.
That is why feminism is more like an all out war against men sometimes, which makes many of us men insecure, leading to the use of our so called "power", manifested in sexism.
That same feeling of conserving might is the reason why man with leading positions prefer to hire males. They want to keep their might and "privileges," at least in business, if not in social aspects and laws where woman have a higher status.
In fact, expectations in society were never as high as today regarding success, which, as we all know, even greater applies to men.
Why else would depression and suicide affect more males than females?
They often can't or do not want to deal with that life deciding task of perfectionism anymore.
Forget the thought taking all male life achievements for granted, men have to work for it too and are not less demanded to excel in appearance, demeanor and skill.
In addition, work is often the sole thing we can deem as safe place (workaholics), which sounds a bit sad considering the above named importance and work conditions, which make unemployed men worse off. (Remember the high suicide rate after the financial crash in 2007? Mostly men).
Some flee into another reality through, drugs, alcoholism, gaming and other addictions.
Ironically, men that appeal to woman aren't the kind of men the radical feminists support, who rather stigmatize us as a whole pile of sh.., er, bad creatures which need to be corrected.
Of course, there are extreme people on both gender sides who act wrong and try to see life as a competition, ridiculing the needs and feelings of the "enemy" in order to feed their ego.
Luckily there are tolerant ones which give me hope for the gender gap.
Feminists demand equal rights. While the concept of equality may seem beautiful, it is illogical, no two people can ever be equal let alone two different sexes. Men and women are not equal physically or mentally. That doesn't necessarily mean that men are superior, it's like comparing a hammer to a screwdriver. Moreover even if we accept the feminist argument on face value, then we are faced with further problems, the first of which is who will decide the gender roles; men or women? The second problem is the fact that while feminists demand equal rights, they refuse to accept equal responsibility. They demand independence, but yet men give half of their hard earned wealth in divorces. They demand respect but yet they capitalize over their assets whenever they can. They complain about absence of good men, but are unwilling to meet the same standards that they expect their 'Prince charming' to fulfill.
Then there is the problem of defining oppression itself. While feminists consider staying at home and raising children as oppression, other women might relish the idea of spending time with their children. Thanks to feminism the family structure has collapsed. I experienced its effects first hand, women are now financially independent to the point that the only incentive they have to get married or stay in them is to satiate their desires, and when they have had their fill they move on to the next fool.
The most "valid" argument I hear feminist bring up is the wage gap, yes WHITE women get paid less than WHITE men, but what about the wage gap between black men? They get paid less than everyone., do feminist acknowledge this? Rarely, and when they do they brush it under the rug. They claim that women are more oppressed, but they don't know what true oppression is, the men always get it worse, women are sheltered not oppress. Women can commit the same crime as a man and get with it or get a lighter sentence. Is that oppression? Who gets hit hardest in custody battles? Its not women.Is that oppression? Who can get way with assault? The "Oppressed". Who got the right to vote without having to sign up for selective service or the draft? These oppressed women. Who gets more funding breast cancer or prostate cancer? Even though prostate cancer is more frequent .
I rest my case, feminist isn't a rights movement its a power shift regime under the guise of a rights movement.
To truly understand oppression with gender and actually be a feminist, you have to understand other systems of hierarchy and inequality as well as interlocking oppressions. If you're a woman who's black and overweight for example, you can't say you're a feminist and just choose to support gender equality (hence, "equality" of genders, not women being treated better than the other - example, "'Women's Liberation' Acts to Free Men, Too" by Gloria Steinem - and in which can help men out by making women equal too, as well as other races, classes, etc.) if you also deal with racism and sizeism (prejudice against people of a certain body weight/size, usually) because then you truly can't eliminate inequality. You can't pick and choose like that as a feminist, so therefore you can't pay more attention to such a specific group. I'm not explaining it as well as I'd like to, but I feel like I have limited space and it's hard to explain in few words... Of course feminism DOES give more attention to women's issues than men's issues, but then again there are more severe, more numerous, and more prevalent issues for women than there are for men in basically any part of the world. So I wouldn't even say it's "unfair" to give female issues higher priority if they're more severe - i.e. men not being able to cry without being called "girl", "fag", "pussy", etc. (which, yeah, it sucks that they have to be seen so lowly and inferior to be called names that relate to being a female or homosexual) vs. FGM, rape, domestic abuse, and many others. Now, I do really wish that men's issues could be solved just as much (I honestly, truly, really deeply and sincerely do and would try just as hard to eliminate issues for men as much as I would for women), it's just that there don't usually seem to be as many or ones as severe, if that makes sense... There are also issues, however, that are maybe not as bad for each gender, but still bad for both regardless such as issues like pressure from the media to find imperfections in our body causing low self-esteem, eating disorders, you name it.
But long story short, feminism fights to achieve equality in every aspect of society and culture simply because it's necessary and inevitable. Therefore, feminists do care about men's issues just as much - but we do tend to look at what most urgently or apparently needs changed. However, they do also believe that in most cases, coming closer to equality can cause equality to be reached more easily in other aspects (for example, fighting for women to be equal can also relieve men from many of their responsibilities while also finally giving women more worth in other aspects than being sexual, etc.)
I hope that made sense the way I wanted it to... I have a bad tendency to explain things poorly.
Right now, there are problems facing both genders, but women are still the ones who are primarily oppressed. Until a closer state of equality is reached, treating women's issues is of primary concern. This is not to say that issues faced by males are unimportant, but that they are lower priority. Judging all feminism harshly because of the few feminists who do not acknowledge the issues faced by both genders only causes more bickering over the purpose of feminism. The longer this argument continues, the longer it will be for any issues to be resolved.
Disturbingly, the definition of 'feminism' appears to be a grey area for many people in this debate. Drawing from evidence based upon the actions of those who claim to be feminists is not a reliable basis on which to formulate an opinion of what feminism actually is. To clear that up, here is a definition from www.dictionary.reference.com:
the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.
The key word here is 'equal'. If feminism was a sexist movement, that word would quite simply not be there. Any argument claiming that women are given unfair advantages over men is actually evidence in itself that sexism is still an issue. If women are being given advantages, it implies that they are in some way incapable. I completely agree with the stance that women should be able to make choices and advance in life based on their own merits and not their sex. However, sometimes it is necessary for a short while to put a small weight on the female side of the the scales, attempt to change some opinions and eventually bring about equality. For example, the law in Finland mentioned in the opposite column (stating that 40% of board directors must be women) is a positive attempt to put women into a male-dominated environment to ensure that they are integrated and hopefully to change the opinions of some of those employers towards women. Normally i would disagree with companies having to reach employment quotas regardless of the effect on their performance, but to have to go to such measures undeniably indicates that there was an imbalance in the first place - and the sooner these measures have achieved their goal and can be taken away, the better. (On a side note, requiring 40% of the board directors to be women is not even weighted in their favour).
Feminism is NOT favouring one group over another. It is about bringing balance. Personally, i hold male issues in exactly the same regard as female issues. The issue of fathers' rights is something i feel strongly about, and i think that the imbalance concerning equal custody is deeply unfair. Although this is based upon outdated values regarding women and childcare, it still has an adverse affect on fathers which i do not agree with.
Finally, absolutely no one can deny that historically, women have been the subject of far more discrimination than men. No evidence is required to prove this as it is a well-known fact. Therefore, while we must absolutely not cast male issues aside and while they are just as important, it must be understood that female issues simply outweigh them in sheer volume.
We live in a world where people get referred to as "black poets" and likewise, "female doctors". To pretend that the current world already provides everyone equal opportunities is absurd. Is trying to eliminate discrimination and promoting the idea that every person is born equal anything remotely similar to sexism? No. The belief behind feminism is to eliminate gender disparities and provide equal opportunities for people regardless of gender.
"gives female issues much higher priority than male issues" WELL MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE 90% OF RAPE VICTIMS ARE FEMALE!! MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE MOST WOMEN GET PAID SEVENTY SEVEN PERCENT OF WHAT MEN GET PAID!! The reason we "give female issues much higher priority than male issues" is because there are FAR less "male issues" than female issues. Also, it's called "feminism". Not "masculinism". So OF course we're going to focus on the female issues!! If you're concerned about men's rights, start your own movement, don't try to but into ours.
Feminists fight for equal rights, not to become more powerful than men, as many people believe. There are some extreme feminists who may have stronger beliefs, but basic feminism is fighting for equality. If and when women are actually equal in society in most respects, then it would be sexist to fight for more power for women, or to put more emphasis on female issues than on male issues.
The Supreme Court ruled that affirmative action was not unconstitutional, and feminism is no different except using gender instead of race. Women are below men, and they still do not make an equal salary for the same job. Feminism would give them a boost up to the equal level, and what a woman makes of the opportunity after that is her decision.
Feminism does not attempt to trivialize male problems and issues, it just strives to bring to public attention the problems of females. Feminism has caused confusion because we never addressed what should be fair given that females and males are indeed different. Both should be treated fairly, but never can be really treated equally in all aspects.
Feminism refers to a woman's belief in her rights and that females should be equal to males. There are some feminists who are sexist, but not all feminists are sexist. They are not interchangeable, however, as there are many feminists who take into consideration a man's issues as well. It is unfair to say that feminism is sexist as it does not deny that a man is, for lack of a better word, useful and has his own strengths. It only refers to the fact that women are almost always referred to as the 'weaker' sex and therefore not given the same considerations. Feminists fight to dispel this ideal and place women at the same level as men in all things, from the home to the workplace. It is a fight for equality, not for gender wars.
The rights of women have historically been overlooked to such a degree that an actual overhaul is required to bring things to a balance. In the United States and other first world countries, the process has been happening slowly since the middle of the 20th century, but, in third world countries, this change has barely begun.
Feminism is a movement that supports the equality of women, something that still does not exist fully in the United States. Male issues have always been given higher priority, and that is why inequality exists. Supporting the feminism ideal is not sexist. It is a way to encourage equality in our society. Despite comparable education and experience, women still do not make salaries as high as men, and they are not in as many positions of power. It is not sexist to support this fight for equality, when women are still being treated unfairly, compared to men.
Feminism is a woman's pride in herself and in her gender's ability to be equal with her male counterparts in all areas of society. Sexism is a prejudiced outlook where one takes one's gender and places it in a superior position to the opposite gender, often at the expense of the opposing gender.
In my opinion feminism highlights issues important to women, but has not done enough yet to ensure that women receive equal treatment in each society and culture. Even in the United States many women work for less money while performing the same duties and often have to scale back careers because their employers are not very child-friendly. If anything, I would argue that feminism is not done yet in bringing women's issues to the political forefront.
For a long time and in many places female issues have not been given importance. All over the world women are treated poorly and have less opportunities. Their work is not equally appreciated as their male counterparts. Feminism tries to give women the same rights and provide the same opportunities to women. So, in that sense feminism is a right thing.
While feminism focuses on issues for females, it in no way discriminates against men. Sure some misandrists use feminism as a right to hate men - but that is not the true meaning. Females face discrimination way more than males. The only example for men might be the idea that women are more competent to raise children than men, although that is based off of sexist traditions that the woman should care for the children whilst the men earn the money. I do think that people should be more focused on equality for all genders, sexualities and animals rather than one. But please don't assume all feminists hate men.
The idea of feminism does not give female issues higher priority. Feminism does not have one definition but feminists agree that sexism is an issue which means equality between the genders. Therefore the idea of feminism aims for equality but the way the media and some who call themselves feminists, which in my opinion are just extremists, are portraying feminism is creating this idea that feminism is sexist.
Feminism is not just about allowing women to be able to have the same rights and not be policed about what they do, just like men aren't, but it's also about helping men.
True Feminism is about promoting equality between men and women, regardless of race, religion, body etc.
While yes, they are some people who call themselves Feminists who are sexist towards men, that doesn't mean they are Feminists.
Right now, if a man is raped by someone (man or woman) or abused by his wife, chances are that he won't spoke up or be taken seriously if he does. That is because people associate men with being abusers and women with being victims; that is one of the issues Feminists want to tackle.
Some Feminism ideas aren't presented well or they are not done by true feminists. Feminism isn't about being sexist, it's about Equality.
Feminism is simply the piece of the equality movement concerned with the inequalities that women face across the world, in the same way that the AACP is concerned with the rights of black Americans. It is true that it is not enough to say that women are currently treated as less equal, because both genders experience inequality. That is why the necessity exists for an overall equality movement. However, as a man I cannot understand the inequalities that women face to the level that other women can, just like women cannot understand the inequalities that we face as men. For instance, most men and I have never felt fear that we might be taken advantage of at a bar, in the same way that women probably don’t feel the pressure to act or be more “masculine” in order to compete for the attention of a possible love interest. This is where the need for lower level groups need to exist. That is feminism. It is just one part of the greater equality movement. Yes, it is necessary, and no, it’s not sexist. Saying that is like saying I don’t care about other people’s families because I primarily concern myself with taking care of my own. It’s just ridiculous.
I can understand why people think that, but Feminists support male issues like, for example, men not being taken seriously if raped, which is ridiculous and sick. Feminists argue over issues in society that are unfair and need to be fixed in order to have a balanced society, regardless of gender,race,sexual orientation, nationality etc. So if you do not fully understand feminism completely, hearing the word feminism, with the word fem(ale,inine) in it you are bound to think that Feminism stands merely for the female gender and that 'all feminist hate men'. Completely untrue.
The idea of feminism is equality. Feminism is the battle for equal rights for women and men. Unfortunately, many women who don't consider themselves to be feminists and even feminists themselves only care about themselves. For example, on one particular CBS talk show, a group of women were talking about a case where a woman had cut off a mans genitals. THEY WERE MAKING FUN OF HIM AND LAUGHING. One woman eventually said "if a man had mutilated a woman, there would be uproar" to which another said "this is different" there are many examples of this. For example, many adverts and TV shows portray men as bumbling, drunken, uncaring idiots, but do women care? No, they are complaining about cortana showing too much cleavage in halo. Meanwhile men sit quietly as the stereotypical male on TV is hit in the face with a swing.
In summary, the idea of feminism is a good cause, while feminists must think that the word "equality" in the definition has "wink wink" written next to it.
Feminism gives priority to female issues as in current society males are in a position of privilege. To call Feminism sexist is to assume that we live in a current state of gender equality, which is simply not the case. Feminism is striving for equality for everyone and a breakdown of harmful gender stereotypes that are damaging to people of every gender.
Feminism means opposition and resistance to treating the female gender as inferior...The exact opposite of sexism, basically. Focusing on issues affecting a group in no way inherently undermines other groups, and in many cases, solving one group's problems goes some way to solving other groups' problems. Inequality diminishes all of us.
The definition of feminism has probably become very confusing and ambiguous. This is probably due to some women who are actually misandrist. They are the ones who hate men and are most likely to erroneously call themselves feminists. True feminists will insist on equality for both genders. If there is no equality, men who are willing to stand up against these "feminist" movements will continue to mistreat women and they will not give in to being controlled by women. That means that true feminists will try to correct issues with both sexes rather than try to destroy them. Hence female issues are given higher priority than male issues due to misandry.
Lets answer that question with a few questions. Do you believe that women are equal to men and should be treated as such? Do you believe that degrading women in terms of intelligence and ability due to gender is wrong? Do you want to live in a world where women have the same freedoms and rights as men?
If you answered yes to these then pat yourself on the back, you can call yourself a feminist if you want to. Feminism is defined as: "the belief in the need to secure rights and opportunities for women equal to those of men."
Now, nowhere in that definition does it say you have to be a woman to be a feminist. So guess what guys? You can be feminists too!
He negative connotation on feminism is the idea that feminists are "man haters who are teaching young girls to hate men and be lesbians because men are dogs and our issues are more important." Any woman who does this is not so much a feminist as a sexist.
So in conclusion, no. I do not believe the idea of feminism is sexist. Real feminism is a quest for equality, not superiority.
Are gay rights activists somehow marginalizing heterosexuals because they look out for the interests of their particular group? Of course not. It's the same with feminism. How do people not get this? The issue of gender rights has historically been more about female issues than male issues. Am I saying that men's issues should not be addressed? Absolutely not, but women historically have been at far more of a disadvantage than men. Women did not even get voting rights until 1920, and they had a tougher time getting rights than African Americans. To ignore the fact that women's issues are far greater and always have been is simply turning a blind eye to the truth.
The word "feminism" has no agreed-upon definition! Everyone has their idea of what feminism and feminists are, and most peoples ideas are not the same. Many people's idea of feminism is "feminazi", which implies stubborn aggression and hatred. The responsibility lies with questions/websites/articles like this to Define feminism lest they throw out a vague question and then ask people to give their YES or NO. Please define feminism in your questions and in your answers!
I have to use the bumper sticker definition "Feminism is the radical notion that women are people".
Feminism is about human rights. What is a men's issue?
Women live a world where they fear walking around alone at night, anywhere. 1 in 3 women are/will be sexually assaulted, whereas the statistic is 1 in 5 for men. Women are 166% more likely to be sexually assaulted than men.
"Men's issues" have always been more prominent than women's issues, which is why Black men were given the right to vote before any women. Feminism is necessary to bring women to equal grounds.
The entire point of feminism is to raise awareness on the issues women face around the world, that DOES NOT mean that we ignore other issues. Feminism is the FIGHT against sexism so why on earth would we want to do the same to men? Calling feminism sexism is just ignorant.