Bullies are responsible for their own words and/or actions. If someone kills themselves because of their mean words, well so be it. Bullies should be charged for the wrong that they have done just as Murderers should be charged for anyone they kill. I wish we didn't need to use fifty words...
Regardless of whether or not they meant for the person to kill themselves it happens. If I accidentally kill someone with my car I should be held responsible even though it was unintentional. That bad part is that bullies know that people commit suicide sometimes and don't stop, that seems equal, if not worse to vehicular manslaughter
In many cases, the victim doesn't even consider suicide prior to the bullying. As the bully caused the victim to take sper own life through the bully's actions, there is no way that such instances can be considered as anything other than murder on the part of the bully. Therefore, bullies should be charged with murder if their victims commit suicide.
I believe that bullies can be extremely harsh and inconsiderate and ignorant of other people's lives and problems. Bullies can dictate whether you have suicidal thoughts or just thoughts of self harm at the end of the day, and whether or not you truly want to act on those thoughts or not may also be dictated by them. Bullies, depending on how harsh or how much they harassed their victim, should in fact be charged with murder.
Yes, actions of an idiot should still be considered an action bound by law. We can toss the blame around, it's the parents, it's the media, it's the society, it's the world we live in, it's the situation at home. The whole point of law is to remove human scum from the society, because they are not fitting to live among us (well in America it's the profit from prisons), bullies are directly responsible for the suicide of that person. Bullies also doesn't have to be a children, in life there are racists, bigots, religious freaks that bully others, child beaters, wife beaters, psychological bullies as well. SO YES, they are to be responsible
This is ultimately what bullying is: trying to kill someone without "killing" them; causing death and injury while feeling that they can't be blamed because their hands are clean. To all the idiots voting "No", if I tortured you, then tortured your kids/spouse (in order to "get to you"), made your life unbearable on a daily basis, drove you to kill yourself (if you think you're strong enough to resist it, you've probably never been TRULY bullied) ...
... AND THEN, at the end of all that, I justified it and got away with it because, after all, I didn't do it, you did to yourself, what would you think? Bullies who drive someone to suicide are nothing more than cowardly murderers who want a clean conscience.
The bullies choose to bully. For how many bullying videos students watch, they should know that a leading factor in bullying is suicide. That clearly means it was intentional and not accidental. Also a lot of time the bully says "go kill yourself" which infers that the bully wants that specific person to die.
Yes. They should. If someone knowingly harasses or torments another individual then they should be held accountable for that persons death. Even if they didn't give the victim that push over the edge they might as well have taken them up to the top of the cliff and told them to jump. Too many bullies get off with just a slap on the wrist. And the majority of some still mock the person even after their death. Bullies should be held liable for their victims suicide because I'm sure if that individual wasn't being bullied they wouldn't have taken their life. Too many people brush it off as something small. Everyone would aslo probably try to argue Freedom Of Speech but honestly that right has gone out the window if your infringe on someone elses. If you verbally and/or physically harass another you have got to be aware that it hurts them. People who bully choose there victims. It just doesn't happen at random therefore they had every intention of inflicting some sort of pain on that person and drove them to suicide which is almost as bad as murder. Just because they didn't physically kill anyone they should still be held accountable and charged with some sort of crime. Regardless of age, bullying is bullying and it should be stopped
Bullies should be charged for murder only if it was them bullying and no one else and that can be proven. The bully should not have a clean slate when an innocent human being felt the need to take their life away because of someone else making them feel so terrible. This is a terribly hard topic to defend in many ways, but as my mother always said, "treat people the way you would want to be treated." And with that being said, i believe the bully should have to take the consequences he or she may deserve.
While the line can be very grey, and age and knowledge are key factors bullying is still torment that some can't take. A little kid in kindergarden is understandably not going to know the seriousness when they pick on someone; but an older kid-even as young as 9 or 10 in this era-can comprehend the consequences but often chooses to ignore them.
Some people just can't take this kind of torment, and bullies know it. They torture people for their own enjoyment and to impress others without a second thought for the victim in most cases. Many bullies often tell their victims to kill themselves on several occasions. With that kind of treatment, why wouldn't a bully be to blame for their victim's death? Yes, the victim took their own life, but the did it because of the harassment, because of the mental pain.
Maybe if not murder, manslaughter. Bullies often don't actually try to get their victims to commit suicide, even if they tell them to do it; but neither do those people committing reckless endangerment. Many people don't think before checking their phone while driving; then boom, and accident happens and someone completely innocent dies, the result: Manslaughter. Why would a bully be any different when they know the possible consequences? They chose to pick on that person; they chose to torment them day after day without letting up; some choose to tell their victims to do it. When the victim actually does it, does 'Innocent' really fit that bully in the case?
Murder is when someone sets out to kill somebody and is successful! Bullying is to cause someone emotional torment. If the victim chooses to end their life, it's the victims decision. Bullying should be treated as harassment, assault ans other legal phases. Saying suicidal bullying is murder is a poor definition.
& please don't confuse blackmail and bullying. For example, if they don't kill themselves, information or another person will be harmed.
Unless the bully got their hands on a mind-control device, each individual is still responsible for their own actions. If I commit suicide because my wife left me, should she get charged for murder? If I kill myself because I lost my job, can my wife sue my ex-employer? What happened to personal responsibility? People who vote yes should think long and hard about the choices they have made in their own life rather than blame something/somebody else.
Although i sympathize with people who commit suicide, I am firm in believing they made their choice. They chose to kill themselves, no one else could make that decision for them. It may be an extremely difficult choice to make but it's a choice nonetheless. It is not murder. Everyone who has ever fought for their life at the hands of someone else would be extremely insulted by calling suicide murder. In America we have freedom of speech. Bullies have the right to say whatever they want to you. You have the right to do the same. I know parents of suicide victims push for this but I am sorry to tell them that the only person responsible for their child's death is their child. Their may be other factors that contribute to it but the child killed themselves. It's like saying rape victims are partially responsible for dressing slutty. Nope. It is the fault of the person who did the violent action. Just like it's the fault of the person who took their own life.
Of course bullying is wrong and immoral, and of course bullies should be punished for their actions. But what I don't think should happen is charge them with "murder." Unless a bully went directly up to their victim and physically killed them, then bullying to the point of suicide is not murder. If a victim of bullying commits suicide due to bullying, then it is in fact, the choice of the victim to take their life. Now hang on, of course bullying is a factor that led to their decision of committing suicide, I'm not denying that, but unless a bully physically did something to kill their victim, they have not committed a murder.
With that said, I do think that their should be punishments for bullying and heavier punishments if the bullying led to the victim committing suicide, but the charge should not be murder. It should be something else that falls under the category of bullying and not murder. Yes, bullying is bad. Yes, bullies SHOULD be punished whether their victim commits suicide or not, BUT, murder is in fact, not the correct charge that should be used.
Murder is when you deliberately set about to kill someone and successfully kill them. Bullies certainly don't do that. At the absolute worst they could be charged with man slaughter. But even then their actions did not cause the person to kill the,elves. They chose to kill the,selves by their own hand.
If the law changes and bullies get charged with murder, the victim might purposely kill themselves just to get the bully in jail. The victim might be deemed as a bully as well because he is making the bully go to jail even though the bullying might not be that serious or even existent. Someone could just use that law just out of pure hate to another person
They should be charged with harassment charges and also anything else to follow that. However they should not be charged with murder as they did not PHYSICALLY INTEND to kill their victim. And their action may have led to emotional damage to the victim which led them to suicide however that cannot be blamed on the bully.
It depends on the precise circumstances surrounding the suicide of the target. AFAIK, Murder necessitates an intent to take another's life, which almost always is not the case. I can see, however, legitimate grounds in some circumstances for charging bullies with Manslaughter, Negligent Homicide, or Reckless Endangerment (especially Reckless Endangerment Leading to Death, where such legal prohibitions are present).
When a child commits suicide it hurts those people around them, sometimes this hits the bullies that drove them to it home, sometimes not. If you charge the ones that are already remorseful about the death of the victim with murder, you take away most of their life, they don't have a chance to change.
Still I think that the bullies should pay for it, but not by serving time, but by serving others.
The person still took their own life. Charge the bully with harrassment and assault and battery if appropriate. The problem with calling this murder is what counts as bullying? It has to be defined in a way that can be discerned without any guesswork involved or else you are entrapping people into committing the offense. If you base it on the victim then oversensitive people will commit suicide over deserved social criticism and people will go to jail for 'murdering' them.