• No Super Hornets for Canada.

    The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is unwise for Canada to have settled on only one design of carrier aircraft. As a carrier aircraft and because of its design features, it sacrifices land based performance and what good is that really for Canada. As a strike platform design with modern avionics etc., yeah maybe. But as an air superiority fighter...No, the Super Hornet is better and more proven than the F-35, but the Super Hornet isn't a match for other air superiority fighters. Which they are glorified strike aircraft which they maybe very good at but not air superiority/ interceptors.

    Canadian Super Hornet or F-35 pilots will have a bad sensation when confronted Sukhoi Su-27/30 family, MiG-29/35 family, J-10 Vigorous Dragon, PAK-FA, J-20 Mighty Dragon and J-31 Falcon Eagle be carefully!!! Press eject button Canadians!!!

  • The Super Hornet is a dog.

    I know the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet won't stand against export Sukhoi fighter like Su-27SKM, Su-30MK series, Su-35S and the future PAK-FA. The PAK-FA will serve in nations air force like Malaysia, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Google: (Russia to export 600 Sukhoi PAK FA fifth generation jets).

    And of course the PLAAF with their J-20 Mighty Dragon and J-31 Falcon Eagle.

  • My message to Canada is that you don't need the F-35A.

    I'm sorry that US Congress banned the F-22 which will give all the advantage to take on Sukhoi fighters. Yes I know the F-35 is useless because it can't turn, can't run, can't climb, out can't out manoeuvre SAMs, and can't defeat Sukhoi Flanker family and MiG-29/35 family fighters. F-35 w/EODAS firing AIM-120's won't help either because Sukhoi Flanker family of fighters would just jammed it with radars, dispenser, flares,and outmanoeuvre it.

    Sorry Canada!

  • The Super Hornet is a pig.

    Yes it does have the latest APG-79 AESA radar and ECM/ECCM packages. Yes it does have bigger F414-GE-400 engines and bigger fuel tanks than the standard F/A-18A-D Classic Hornets. The F/A-18F variants have fully missionised rear stations for the WSOs and ECMOs. That all being said, the Super Hornet weights too much, flies too slow, lack of range, speed and manoeuvrability.

    Ever notice the various tactical demonstrations?

    Speed and climb rate, the hallmark of fighters are lacking. I saw someone actually post that the E/F have speeds of 1.9. That is completely false. The standard Hornet could do Mach 1.8. The Super Hornet NEVER exceeds 1.6 in most situations. It has some big motors and guts but it is still limited to range and speed. Add in that they carry so much by way of weapons. The Super Hornets are lacking in air to air combat.

    The F-15E/K/SG/QA are far better platforms.

  • Buy the F-15.

    The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is strictly a Navy plane & still has inferior performance compared to Su-27//30/33/35 and MiG-29/35. Canada needs new production updated F-15E+ versions.

    A much cheaper 4th Generation fighter (advanced F-15) airframe with new, top-of-the-line radar, sensors, and missiles can kill the F-35 just as well as another 5th Gen fighter.

    Buying F-15s keeps Boeing alive in the tacjet market.

  • Buy this bird

    Given that Boeing has just received a 500 million dollar contract to update the electronics of the f15 and the USAF is considering purchasing 72 more f15's, it's pretty obvious that this airframe will be around for the next 20-30 years as the USAF's primary frontline aircraft.

    An incredibly capable aircraft.

  • Canada should buy the silent eagle

    IMO Canada should buy the silent eagle because however more expensive the silent eagle is than the super hornet it's a much better and proven reliable airplane. For example the usaf has done some research into the number of flight hours the silent eagle can have, the research indicated that the airframe can last up to 30,000 hours rather than the much lower super hornet. Not to mention the silent eagle is much more manuverable than the super hornet

  • The F-35 is the world's most terrible, most expensive & failed project ever.

    The slip in initial operational test and evaluation means that IOT&E can't be completed prior to 2021, pushing the Milestone C production decision to 2022 at best. That's a three-year slip from the SAR dates which solidifies the F-35 program as a complete failure.

    Get the hook for Lt. Gen Chris Bogdan. He's been there nearly four years and the program is worse off than ever.

  • The F-35 is the world's worst fighter jet ever.

    The "F-35" does not exist; it is still in development, fifteen years and counting. All system performance capabilities are "TBD" -- to be determined -- according to the last project report. Development and operational test and evaluation won't be complete any time soon and Milestone C production decision is not for years.

    The U.S. Air Force doesn't accept that these useless $200 million prototypes are useful -- it has 72 of these fat pigs in "training squadrons."

    Australia is wisely skipping the $200m (each) waste of money because the current test version of the F-35A in the Block 3i configuration has numerous limitations which make it less effective overall at CAS than most currently-fielded fighter aircraft like the F-15E, F-16, F-18 and A-10 in a permissive or low-threat environment, which is where CAS is normally conducted.

    --Avionics sensor fusion performance is still unacceptable.

    --Electronic Warfare (EW) capabilities, including electronic attack (EA), are inconsistent and, in some cases, not effective against required threats.

    --Datalinks do not work properly

    --Mission data development, optimization, and operationally-representative testing are inadequate

    --Block 3F mission systems software required multiple corrections to deficiencies before weapons delivery accuracy testing could begin.

  • The F-35 Joint Super Fail is the world's worst fighter jet ever.

    -- Performance is "G-limited" - which means the airframe hasn't been fully tested.

    -- Performance claims are just that until they are tested and evaluated.

    -- Service claims of successful tests should be taken with a grain of salt as they are not objective.

    -- Operators have no part in the acquisition process so their opinions should be disregarded.

    -- G limits

    NI, 2nd Feb 2016: Fleet F-35B aircraft are limited to 3.0 g’s when fully fueled and the allowable g is increased as fuel is consumed, reaching the full Block 2B envelope of 5.5 g’s at roughly 63 percent of fuel remaining,” the report states. The F-35B’s full 7g envelop won’t be released until 2017. The other two variants face similar but slightly different restrictions.


    I couldn't care less what a foreign journal has to say about performance. By law the DOT&E is responsible for test & evaluation in military systems acquisition, nobody else. Nobody. Initial operational test and evaluation won't start until 2018 at the earliest, because the project is having great difficulty preparing 23 planes for the test.

  • Still too expensive and not needed.

    You don't need stealth for Canada's missions. Arctic and air patrols do not need stealth or BVR. No Canadian is going to shoot down an unidentified aircraft over Gander without visually identifying it. Even overseas... Missions are rarely first strike and almost never against first world countries. These planes are now $100M+. Far better to get several less expensive, non-stealthy Super Hornets. Take the extra $20B dollars and pay down the deficit or spend it on things Canada's military needs -- transport aircraft, transport ships, etc.

  • Canada Doesn't Need an F-15 Silent Eagle

    In reality, Canada doesn't necessarily need an F-15 Silent Eagle. The cost of this aircraft would be astronomically high, and the country doesn't have any particular use for it. Canada has better uses for its money and shouldn't be making such unnecessary purchases when its own economy could use some help.

  • I think the RCAF shouldn't buy the F-15 Silent Eagle

    In this day and age, conventional warfare is becoming redundant. Unless Canada becomes a war mongering state, then there is little to no need for an upgrade in aircraft. Aircraft costs are rising higher as the research and development for them takes longer. Canada has little to gain from buying F-15 Silent Eagles, it could be better spent in infrastructure, medical research and renewable energies. America dumps billions into military research, why should Canada? It is okay to buy maybe 1 or 2 of these for research, but why should Canada buy a fleet? What is going to attack Canada from the air which cannot be engaged by fourth generation aircraft?

  • Super Hornet is a cost effective aircraft to meet Canada,s needs

    -interdiction aircraft are important but improved drone capabilities will likely emerge over the next decade that will circumvent stealth requirements
    - The option for a Growler suite to complement the Super Hornets can offer more cost effective ecm and tracking. This can contribute effectively to NATO responsibilities
    - Dual engine reliability for Canadian conditions in a proven rugged airframe
    - Cost savings can be put to better use on future aircraft R and D as new technologies emerge. $70m Super Hornet vs F15 or f 35 $120m USD price tag steep with the anticipation of these changes

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