Boeing believes it has prospects and contracts for its F-15 Strike Eagle aircraft up until at least 2019 and likely beyond 2022.
A company official, unsurprisingly, delivered some pushback against a ‘stealth overall’ philosophy and fifth generation aircraft.
The F-15, by its very nature not being [stealthy], you can hang things on the aircraft quickly, cheaply and more easily than an aircraft set up for stealth.
Boeing can prove out technology on the F-15, that is the benefit of the platform. They have a lot of power and space available, the F-15 can do lots of things more quickly than other 5th generation aircraft.
If you consider that it is asymmetric threats being faced most at the moment, stealth is at its best facing conventional military power such as other fighter aircraft and powerful radars whereas a more conventional aircraft may be considered better at defeating asymmetric threats.
They have the only air superiority aircraft in production in the US today. They are running at 1.25 aircraft a month and we have the capacity to increase that and they have plans to do that if the customer demand is there.
The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is unwise for Canada to have settled on only one design of carrier aircraft. As a carrier aircraft and because of its design features, it sacrifices land based performance and what good is that really for Canada. As a strike platform design with modern avionics etc., yeah maybe. But as an air superiority fighter...No, the Super Hornet is better and more proven than the F-35, but the Super Hornet isn't a match for other air superiority fighters. Which they are glorified strike aircraft which they maybe very good at but not air superiority/ interceptors.
Canadian Super Hornet or F-35 pilots will have a bad sensation when confronted Sukhoi Su-27/30 family, MiG-29/35 family, J-10 Vigorous Dragon, PAK-FA, J-20 Mighty Dragon and J-31 Falcon Eagle be carefully!!! Press eject button Canadians!!!
I know the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet won't stand against export Sukhoi fighter like Su-27SKM, Su-30MK series, Su-35S and the future PAK-FA. The PAK-FA will serve in nations air force like Malaysia, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Google: (Russia to export 600 Sukhoi PAK FA fifth generation jets).
And of course the PLAAF with their J-20 Mighty Dragon and J-31 Falcon Eagle.
I'm sorry that US Congress banned the F-22 which will give all the advantage to take on Sukhoi fighters. Yes I know the F-35 is useless because it can't turn, can't run, can't climb, out can't out manoeuvre SAMs, and can't defeat Sukhoi Flanker family and MiG-29/35 family fighters. F-35 w/EODAS firing AIM-120's won't help either because Sukhoi Flanker family of fighters would just jammed it with radars, dispenser, flares,and outmanoeuvre it.
Yes it does have the latest APG-79 AESA radar and ECM/ECCM packages. Yes it does have bigger F414-GE-400 engines and bigger fuel tanks than the standard F/A-18A-D Classic Hornets. The F/A-18F variants have fully missionised rear stations for the WSOs and ECMOs. That all being said, the Super Hornet weights too much, flies too slow, lack of range, speed and manoeuvrability.
Ever notice the various tactical demonstrations?
Speed and climb rate, the hallmark of fighters are lacking. I saw someone actually post that the E/F have speeds of 1.9. That is completely false. The standard Hornet could do Mach 1.8. The Super Hornet NEVER exceeds 1.6 in most situations. It has some big motors and guts but it is still limited to range and speed. Add in that they carry so much by way of weapons. The Super Hornets are lacking in air to air combat.
The F-15E/K/SG/QA are far better platforms.
The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is strictly a Navy plane & still has inferior performance compared to Su-27//30/33/35 and MiG-29/35. Canada needs new production updated F-15E+ versions.
A much cheaper 4th Generation fighter (advanced F-15) airframe with new, top-of-the-line radar, sensors, and missiles can kill the F-35 just as well as another 5th Gen fighter.
Buying F-15s keeps Boeing alive in the tacjet market.
Given that Boeing has just received a 500 million dollar contract to update the electronics of the f15 and the USAF is considering purchasing 72 more f15's, it's pretty obvious that this airframe will be around for the next 20-30 years as the USAF's primary frontline aircraft.
An incredibly capable aircraft.
IMO Canada should buy the silent eagle because however more expensive the silent eagle is than the super hornet it's a much better and proven reliable airplane. For example the usaf has done some research into the number of flight hours the silent eagle can have, the research indicated that the airframe can last up to 30,000 hours rather than the much lower super hornet. Not to mention the silent eagle is much more manuverable than the super hornet
The slip in initial operational test and evaluation means that IOT&E can't be completed prior to 2021, pushing the Milestone C production decision to 2022 at best. That's a three-year slip from the SAR dates which solidifies the F-35 program as a complete failure.
Get the hook for Lt. Gen Chris Bogdan. He's been there nearly four years and the program is worse off than ever.
The "F-35" does not exist; it is still in development, fifteen years and counting. All system performance capabilities are "TBD" -- to be determined -- according to the last project report. Development and operational test and evaluation won't be complete any time soon and Milestone C production decision is not for years.
The U.S. Air Force doesn't accept that these useless $200 million prototypes are useful -- it has 72 of these fat pigs in "training squadrons."
Australia is wisely skipping the $200m (each) waste of money because the current test version of the F-35A in the Block 3i configuration has numerous limitations which make it less effective overall at CAS than most currently-fielded fighter aircraft like the F-15E, F-16, F-18 and A-10 in a permissive or low-threat environment, which is where CAS is normally conducted.
--Avionics sensor fusion performance is still unacceptable.
--Electronic Warfare (EW) capabilities, including electronic attack (EA), are inconsistent and, in some cases, not effective against required threats.
--Datalinks do not work properly
--Mission data development, optimization, and operationally-representative testing are inadequate
--Block 3F mission systems software required multiple corrections to deficiencies before weapons delivery accuracy testing could begin.
You don't need stealth for Canada's missions. Arctic and air patrols do not need stealth or BVR. No Canadian is going to shoot down an unidentified aircraft over Gander without visually identifying it. Even overseas... Missions are rarely first strike and almost never against first world countries. These planes are now $100M+. Far better to get several less expensive, non-stealthy Super Hornets. Take the extra $20B dollars and pay down the deficit or spend it on things Canada's military needs -- transport aircraft, transport ships, etc.
In reality, Canada doesn't necessarily need an F-15 Silent Eagle. The cost of this aircraft would be astronomically high, and the country doesn't have any particular use for it. Canada has better uses for its money and shouldn't be making such unnecessary purchases when its own economy could use some help.
In this day and age, conventional warfare is becoming redundant. Unless Canada becomes a war mongering state, then there is little to no need for an upgrade in aircraft. Aircraft costs are rising higher as the research and development for them takes longer. Canada has little to gain from buying F-15 Silent Eagles, it could be better spent in infrastructure, medical research and renewable energies. America dumps billions into military research, why should Canada? It is okay to buy maybe 1 or 2 of these for research, but why should Canada buy a fleet? What is going to attack Canada from the air which cannot be engaged by fourth generation aircraft?
-interdiction aircraft are important but improved drone capabilities will likely emerge over the next decade that will circumvent stealth requirements
- The option for a Growler suite to complement the Super Hornets can offer more cost effective ecm and tracking. This can contribute effectively to NATO responsibilities
- Dual engine reliability for Canadian conditions in a proven rugged airframe
- Cost savings can be put to better use on future aircraft R and D as new technologies emerge. $70m Super Hornet vs F15 or f 35 $120m USD price tag steep with the anticipation of these changes