Should Christian Churches allow the ordination of gay and lesbian priests?

  • Yes, it is past time that Christian Churches evolved

    I feel that it would be a significant step forward for Christian churches to allow the ordination of gay priests. For far too long, Christians have been one of the primary groups that advocate the discrimination and vitriol toward gay people. It is time Christian churches step into the 21st century and adapt with the rest of society.

  • Yes Christian Churches should allow the ordination of gay and lesbian priests

    Why shouldn't they? They have every right to do what they wish to do best as their straight brethren do. I don't think a church should be allowed to discriminate based on sexuality, no matter what the beliefs may be otherwise. It's time the churches get with the times, gays and lesbians exist, they always have, and they always will. People need to get over themselves and deal with it, it is not acceptable to keep shunning them. They are treated like blacks were in the 1950's and 1960's, and it needs to change.

  • We are living in the end times

    We are living in the final days.The bible says that men will portray the form of religion but deny its power.The bible says that no man can change his law.On what basis do christians ordain gay bishops? The seventh commandment states that we shall not commit adultery.Homosexuality is adultery. Watch out for these false prophets lest u fall into their trap.

  • Why not? The Bible never says anything about it.

    Commonly used clobber passages:
    Gen. 2:24
    Gen 19:5
    Lev 18:22
    Lev 20:13
    Rom 1:26-27
    1 Cor 6:9
    1 Tim 1:10

    I will do a short exegesis of each.
    Genesis 2:24 - Many Christians say that this is how God defines marriage. While, originally, it was one man and one woman, in the case of King David, it was one man, and seven hundred women. Women were treated as property. According to Old Testament history and law, it is hardly a sacred institution.
    Genesis 19:5 - People say that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality; when in reality, it was nothing more than the sin of inhospitality, pride, and gluttony. Ezekiel 16:49-50 tells us this directly. There is also no evidence to support that, in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, men had sex with men. It just says they were wicked and the "abominations" in Ezekiel are not specified.
    Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 - When the Hebrew words (Toevah and Shequets) translate to 'abomination' is used in the Torah, it is always used to condemn something against tradition, and never referred to something innately immoral. Moreover, Leviticus 18 and 20 aren't about homosexuality in the least; rather, it was about shrine temple prostitution. Philo, a first-century Jewish philosopher, understood Moses and knew that Leviticus 18 and 20 were referring to shrine temple sex practices.
    Romans 1:26-27 - During the time of the Biblical authors, everybody was presumed to be heterosexual; while there wasn't any concept of sexual orientation at that times, it was understood that men had a natural inclination towards women and women had a natural inclination towards men. Paul is saying in this text that these men and women USED TO have sex with the opposite sex, but then they abandoned that practice and participated in same-sex acts (shrine prostitution). This means that these are heterosexual people doing homosexual acts, in other words, doing what is against their nature. It isn't talking about created order or natural law or function etc. To prove my point, in 1 Corinthians 11:14, St. Paul tells us that, by nature, a man having long hair is a disgrace to him. In Romans 2:14, St. Paul tells us that the Gentiles, even without the law, practice the law by their own nature, and by nature, they are a law for themselves.
    1 Cor 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10 - Two Greek words are translated as homosexual in these passages, and they are μαλακοι and αρσενοκοιται. Μαλακοι is a very ambiguous word and literally means 'soft'. It could mean people who have soft morals, but it is also a slang term to refer to catamites, i.e. boys who were kept for homosexual practices by adult males. Αρσενοκοιται was a word, coined by Paul, that stemmed from Lev 18:22 and 20:13. And since those verses, when literlly translated, refer to shrine prostitution, Paul is referring to shrine temple sex. Therefore, we have no justification to exclude LGBT Christians from the ministry.

  • It's up to them

    I think each denomination should choose what they want to believe and we shouldn't force any denomination to do anything they don't want to - however, I don't see how you could be a true God-fearing Christian and ignore the most basic rule of "Love your neighbor as yourself" and approach all people with tolerance and love.

  • There isn't really a reason they shouldn't.

    I say yes hesitantly, because you're not supposed to have sex with anyone when you're a priest. So with that argument, if a priest is homosexual, as long as he doesn't have sex which he's not supposed to anyway, then why can't he be a priest? It's kind of a silly question. Especially considering that it says "or lesbians". Women aren't allowed to join the priesthood anyway, so the argument is moot.

  • Yes. They need to evolve

    There are so many contradictions in the bible. They say love thy neighbor well there is no difference between a homosexual and a heterosexual besides the fact that one of them likes the same gender and one likes the opposite gender. Just because someone is homosexual doesn't mean they lack morals. My cousin is a very Christian woman. She goes to church every Sunday and every Wednesday and she's been with her girlfriend for TEN years. If she wanted to be a minister she should be allowed. The bible also doesn't support divorce, so every divorced couple shouldn't be ministers. Women are suppose to be virgins when they wed so all those who were not virgins fore they met need to be stoned because that's in the bible.

  • God's word says it's wrong to be gay.

    How could a Christian say I love God but, then want to live in sin. The Bible says that if you say you love God and you live in sin you are a liar. I also say that, I mean this is first grade stuff, you either follow God or you follow the devil.

  • Against the beliefs

    It is stated both in Leviticus 18 and 20 not to mention the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis. It is against the beliefs of the church. Any church, which is based on religion should not think of going against their beliefs, because that is what churches are based on, BELIEFS!

  • It goes against their beliefs

    In no way do I support the way this decision, but it's not my call or anyone else's call, it's the churches. If their is a church that will ordain gays and lesbians then that's great! You can not force them to go against their beliefs though, since it is their beliefs and their opinions. They don't have to change them if they don't want to and if you don't like it, don't get involved with their organization.

  • No, homosexuality is against the Christian religion.

    Allowing homosexuals to be ordained priests would be allowing non-Christians to become such, and only Christians should be allowed to become priests. The Christian church should be allowed to refuse said people becoming church leaders because it goes against the Christian beliefs. Those who live in sin should not be church leaders.

  • Stupid!

    The Christian story is of Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve, so why would Christian's want something they themselves dont believe in?
    It's stupid to go against your own religion, and go against the bible that the Christians believe in. The gays an lesbians shouldn't go to Christian churches.

  • How bout we read the bible for our answers?

    If we would all please read titus and 1 timothy we would clearly see the qualifications for elders. And i already know some of you are thinking "were not talking about elders here" but different versions call it different things like overseers. So ill leave it to you guys to read through that and tell us that the bible is wrong here, or you can just say that the church needs to adapt again and start ignoring the inerrant word of god. Id prefer to keep to what the bible actually says.

  • Come ALL sinners, repent and be baptized...

    The church is for the sick, (the sinners), as we are all in need of the Great Physician Christ Jesus to heal us, gay and lesbianism based on bible truth would fairly fall into the sin category and those who are suffering from it and should NOT be shunned, but invited to come to a church for healing and guidance. The issue is Repenting: "to feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one's wrongdoing or sin..." the gays and lesbians we are speaking of do not feel that they are sinning. And because of this should not be going through any ordination ceremony or given authority over leading others in any church. Allowing a person who is clearly living in sin, embracing, and upholding their sin, to lead others is wrong. Sheep leading sheep, right over a cliff!

  • The Bible didn't change, why should we?

    It's amazing to me that whenever a group of people want to change the practice of the church, they "re-interpret" the Scripture that supports that practice. Now we're being told that the Bible doesn't forbid homosexual sex, it forbids public sex. That would be fornication and if that was what was being forbidden, it doesn't need to be repeated in the same passage. At some point, we need to say thus far and no farther.

  • I recognise that the world has "progressed", but God does not change.

    Priests are suppsoed to be men and women of God. A man or woman of God does not continue to deliberately sin after becoming a Christian. Lots of homosexuals like to think they are Christians, but I heard even a former homosexual who is now a Christian say, "I knew too much scripture to think I could be both homosexual and a Christian." So he had to choose one of them.
    I'm not merely speaking of the Old Testament, because God brought us out from under the Law and into the cleansing grace of his love. Of course, in order for us to be able to come into that cleansing grace, we have to first repent of our sins and recant our old life, becoming "the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus". If you continue to deliberately sin after apparently giving Jesus your heart, you are not a true Christian.
    So no, homosexuals should not be allowed to be priests because they will lead other Christians and even non-Christians astray. Priests are a public representation of Christianity, like pastors. If we show the world that we accept sin like homosexuality as being okay, they will have both the wrong idea of Christianity and the wrong idea about God. God has told us that it is a sin, and we know that God does not change, for he is outside the boundaries of time, and time is what causes change. So, if God wouldn't allow it, why should we? Because "popular opinion" dictates that we should? Because the non-Christians think we are bigoted and narrow-minded? No! We need to love the homosexuals, but we cannot accept that what they do is right. Hatred solves nothing, but acceptance of sin is even worse.

  • Why would they?

    The Bible specifically states the sinfulness of homosexuality. Why any Christian church would have a homosexual priest is beyond me, especially considering the fact that same-sex marriage isn't even LEGAL in multiple states. I have never understood Christians that support homosexuality, purposefully supporting an extremely sinful act is not what God wants.

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