You want to tell me that the US should give back all the land to the Mexicans and Native Americans? Return the borders prior the Americans ruthlessly killed thousands of Indians to steal the land of the Americas. All backed up by the British government. Yes it is easy to point the blame to Israel and say they are the bad guys...Why? Because it is more recent and the media makes it seem so? Get the facts straight, There was never a Palestinian state. It was owned by the Turkish Empire and then by Great Britain. The UN offered a partition plan and the Arabs were not happy and declined. Israel has every right to exist, to defend itself against acts of terror, just like any other country does as well.
Israel is a beacon of freedom. Human rights, women's rights, gay rights, etc. The bigger question is how will we all battle the extremist's that are in a war against civilization. Israel is far from perfect as is the USA but we are a light unto the world. Terrorism is the real issue. Israel is part of the solution.
To understand the conflict, you need to understand the history. Read:
"The siege" by Conor Cruise O'Brien
& "From time immemorial" by Joan Peters.
As far back as archaeologists are able to tell, the Jews had always been the inhabitants of Israel.
In 586 BCE Israel was taken over by Babylon, & the Jews were expelled.
Over the centuries Jews in diaspora kept Israel alive in their hearts, books, & prayers.
By the 1800’s, Israel was for the most part desolate.
In 1835 Alphonse de Lamartine, wrote : "a complete eternal silence reigns in the town, on the highways, in the country" (Recollections of the East, Vol. I, p. 308)
In the 1860's, Mark Twain describes Israel in "Innocents Abroad" CHAPTERs XLVI- LVII as ;
"unpeopled deserts, these rusty mounds of bareness", " A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action"
"Desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse ... We reached Tabor safely ... We never saw a human being on the whole route" (p. 451, 480); "There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent - not for thirty miles in either direction. There are two or three small clusters of Bedouin tents but not a single permanent habitation. One may ride ten miles, hereabouts, and not see ten human beings" (p. 448); "Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren ... the valleys are unsightly deserts... It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land... Palestine is desolate and unlovely... Palestine is no more of this workday world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition - it is dreamland" (pp. 564, 567)
Around the this time, the idea of the Jews returning to Israel began to grow.
In 1818, President John Adams wrote, "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation"
As early as 1843 the slogan "A land without a people for a people without a land" was used to to support the idea of Jewish return to Israel as the perfect solution for the jewish problem, & desolate state of palestine.
By the late 1800’s as a result of increasing anti-semitism, a new movement to create a Jewish state began. Israel, being the Jews original homeland was the most obvious choice.
1917 - Balfour Declaration
In 1922, the League of Nations adopted the declaration, and granted to Britain the Palestinian Mandate
Now the problem begins:
As a result of Jewish migration to Palestine and widespread Jewish land purchases There were riots in 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936, etc. accompanied by massacres of Jews. The victims were usually from the non-Zionist Haredi Jewish communities in theFour Holy Cities. Britain supported Jewish immigration in principle, but in reaction to Arab violence imposed restrictions.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnections/mideast/timeline/text/time3.html - 1929, 1936-1939, 1948. 1964, 1967, 1970,
I'm out of space. See also http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-the-u-s-support-israel.
When the UN created Israel they also wanted to create a Palestinian state. The Arabs rejected this proposal and went to war against the newly formed state. Israel won against all odds and got their independence. However the Arab countries attacked numerous more times against Israel and each time they won and acquired more land in DEFENSIVE wars. Nowadays they are constantly bombarded by rockets by the very people who claim they want peace. Also the 1967 borders are strategically indefensible. Israel has every right to exist and almost every claim against them was created by Palestinian propaganda. I'm not saying that the Palestinians don't deserve a country as well but there cant be any pre conditions for peace talks to work.
I think that Israel should exist. Its like any other country or state. why should we the people not want Israel to exist. Its part of our world and God made it. Israel is its own and should be left alone and accepted for what they are and not being judged on everything we see or hear.
Israel, or the State of Israel, should exist as a country in the Middle East. That area is, for all intent and purpose, the center of the religious universe, the heart of the Christian civilization. The foundation of the beliefs of both Christians and Jews center in that area, and must be protected and defended for posterity.
According to an essay by the nineteenth century French philosopher Ernest Renan, a state has the right to exist when individuals are willing to sacrifice their own interests for the community it represents. This condition is clearly met. The state of Israel is full of individuals that are willingly sacrificing their own economic interests, personal life quality and sometimes their loves for the community.
Yes undoubtably their has been much injustice to the Palestinians and they must have a country of their own very soon on land now occupied by israel but not to the extent that israel itself is compromised.
Many people will say that " no one should suffer for the creation of a new state" but sadly this is how all countries have been created and its just more of the same. Sadly the suffering continued and so does the hypocrisy on how countries were made.
I could go on forever on the pros and cons of the state of israel but in my mind their is more for than against.
This is an odd question because Israel is simply a country with borders and a government. So is the country you are in right now. Should your country exist? Why would the difference between those two countries matter? Israel is simply another country just like any other country in the world.
It's too late to go back 55 years and undo what the United Nations did in 1947 when it created the state of Israel. A Jewish homeland was created in light of the terrible atrocities during World War II. It is extremely unfortunate that the global community didn't take Palestine's existence into account when creating Israel. Doing so might have prevented decades of tension and bloodshed over the Judaism vs. Islam struggle in the Holy Land.
To say Jews have the right to live in Palestine is like saying that the Italians have the right to live anywhere in the old Roman Empire. The only reinforcements the Israelis have for their claims is a book written two and a half thousand years ago and a very unfortunate genocide, which they have been using as a justification for their own genocide against the native Palestinians. The native Palestinians, who have been living there for at least one and a half thousand years, have been established there; they built cities and states and produced engineers, statesmen and scientists that have give the state of Palestine its own glory as a country. The flawed concept of 'homeland' says that despite the fact that the Jews have not lived in Palestine since Roman Times, they still have the right to control the area. The Jews' homes is wherever they choose to settle, be it Frankfurt, Paris, London, Vienna, or New York; those are the Jews' homelands. They use the holocaust, a tragic event that is a testament to man's inhumanity towards man, as a purely anti-Jewish act of murder. In fact, the six million Jews murdered make up roughly half of the total number of deaths, yet homosexuals, Roma and Freemasons have not been given their own country. Also, many Jews seem to forget that Arabs in North Africa and at the Paris Mosque saved thousands of Jews from the Nazis, and it is hardly a fitting way to repay them to take their land and displace their people.
I don't think a country should be brought into existence at the expense of the people that already inhabit that part of the world. Also 3rd party countries have pushed this country into existence because of atrocities that were perpetrated during WWII, this has caused another reign of atrocities that are still going on to this very day. Two wrongs do not make a right. This reply is so basic and the full and honest truth of how rich powerful jews that played and influenced the bankrupt countries into promising them the promised land if they would finance the allies war machine. The real truth about the way Israel was bought will never be revealed, The palestinians were sold down the river.
Privileging the rights of Jews over non-Jews, the Jewish state is inherently undemocratic, and hence illegitimate. In fact, the core democratic freedoms of speech, the press, and religious expression are alive. Israel should no exist because even though it is the chosen land it was inhabited by the Palestinans before.
Israel should not be a country. Period.
End of story and no one can argue because this is true. The Jews think that just because they don’t have a country they can go invade Palestine.
75.1 percent of people in Israel are Jewish. Only 17.4 percent are Muslim. I wonder why. Ooh, now I know. Because the jews killed the rest. What idiotic morons. GET. A. LIFE.
Jews don’t need a state, much less do they need to kill innocent humans to get one.
I’m a Muslim and I’m proud of it. Israelis think it’s not fair that they don’t have a country all to their effing selves. News flash: life isn’t fair, and it never will be. It’s 2015.
The word fair doesn’t even have a meaning anymore.
Israel is NOT a country and it never, ever will be. The jews taking away Palestine will result in conflict between arabs and jews for decades, maybe even centuries. Yolo, so think twice( yolo means you only live once). You have a brain for a reason, so use it wisely. Your still alive now since the jews didn’t kill YOU, so live your life while you still can. Who knows. Maybe one day the world will come in peace. Maybe.
The Israeli state is a slap in the face to anyone with a sense of justice, the Americans and British supported a zionist movement to retake the Holy Land after the Second World War not through any actual right to the land, but rather as a shoddy attempt to compensate them for the Holocaust. While it was a good idea to try to make amends to the Jewish people, the manner in which it was done, stealing land from the Palestinians and giving it to the Jews, was and still is wrong. Since then the state has provided no real benefit to the world and is essentially is a puppet state of the American government. Since it's creation the Israelis have consistently violated international law and would not have survived without the support, both tacit and direct, of America, thereby greatly contributing to tensions in the Middle East.
All the Israelis have for their claim is a book that was written 2 ½ thousand years ago and a genocide. The Palestines have been living there for 1 ½ thousand years; they were established there. They built the cities and states that produced engineers and scientists, that gave Palestine the right to be a country. Israel has caused more crime than any state in the world. Israel displaced thousands of palestinians from their homeland. This still happens to cause disruption today.
If the Jews are a race? Is American a race? Is Russian a race? Is African a race? If they are a race, then it is a country based on a race, established by the taking of another, already established, country's land; the only reason they have that part of land is because of the Biblical implications of it being a "Holy Land." Otherwise, they would not have a right to section off a piece of another country for such. If Jew is a race, then it shows racial favoritism. If Jew is a religious term, then it shows religious favoritism towards them over another religion; that is reminiscent of the Vatican, an establishment immune from certain laws as it gets treated as though it is its own country with its own currency included. However, they, as the seat of the Catholic agenda, then are allowed to have offshoots in nearly every major country in the world. Same idea with the Jews; there is a sense of entitlement to special treatment and special status as a people. Why do they, as a race, are allowed to have their own country? Not to mention it was also a fulfillment of religious prophecy, and even the acquisition of such is questionable as it involves Truman. Don't involve religious in the establishment of a country. So, no, I don't believe they should exist.
Law and proper justice cannot follow any individuals' beliefs that they are chosen above others. This goes against the fundamental law of social egalitarianism.
The UN awarded the Jews 55% of the land of Palestine even though their current holdings totaled only about 6% and their population was only about 35% (608,000) of all the Palestinians (1,237,000). The plan also gave the most fertile lands to the Jews but the mountainous regions to the Arabs.
Since then, Israel has caused more crime than any other state in the world. It has displaced dozens of thousands of Palestinians from their land without and still continues to cause disruption after the massacres it has been the source of.
They forcibly took land away from the people that had been living there for over a thousand years..They say it is there homeland but it isn't because they just got there but the Palistinians have been there since ancient times.I think that the U.S. should find someone else to support in the Middle East.
It was funded by imperialists based in the united kingdom to cause internal strife and instability in the middle east. Not to mention it was almost going to be in south america until the british discovered oil in the mandate of palestine. Also the native palestinians are treated as second class humans in their own land being kicked out by a group of people called jews that didn't exist as anything besides a religion until the ninteenth century.